Modpack Release
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Every mod causes lag, because every mod adds things. The only mods that could possibly reduce lag are either optimisation mods, or mods that remove things.
Very odd to see bluepower being picked over ProjectRed. BluePower is a highly alpha mod with highly bugged bluestone wires, if your going to pick it, atleast consider adding ProjectRed: Core/Integration/Compatability so we have gates/wires to play with.
Realy sad Apple Core isnt included once again either, its such a simple yet very usefull food UI.
Where is the frame mod? Where is the RF flight mod? Why Extra Utilities and Advanced Generators, but not Big Reactors?
Realy sad Apple Core isnt included once again either, its such a simple yet very usefull food UI.
Where is the frame mod? Where is the RF flight mod? Why Extra Utilities and Advanced Generators, but not Big Reactors?
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every time i launch it after it "supposedly" downloads it re downloads and sometimes it says "error downloading modpack"
In the OP, Nana says it's a Public Alpha. Alpha is before Beta.
Personally, I haven't recently seen, nor have I ever seen, a "we will do what we want" attitude. Besides, even if they do have that attitde, so what? It's FTB's own modpacks, they can do what if they choose to. The reason this is an Alpha, not a full release, is in part so that FTB can get opinions from the community. They don't have to listen to the community, they choose to.
To everyone:
As always, remember that you're free to modify modpacks as you wish, the launcher has that functionality for a reason
Don't like a mod? Remove it, or replace it with another one. The modpack guys do a massive amount of testing of different mods, and they always have a reason for not including one, even if they don't share that reason. Could be because it causes too much lag/is buggy, makes another mod too easy, doesn't fit the theme of the pack, is generally OP, or any other number of reasons.Random reminder, since this seems to fade out of people's minds occasionally: FTB is pretty much run by volunteers. Sure, it's technically a business, but how much money do you think free modpacks really make?
Besides without xycraft it just isn't the same.
And thank heavens, earth and everything between for that.
Seriously, whose bright idea was it to fill Ultimate with tons upon tons of useless ores, as well as hi-res-and-animated-textured crystals with particle effects that couldn't be disabled, which also work as empty blocks leading to every instance of the crystal loading six blocks into memory in addition to itself?
Quarrying up my world, I filled a 4k storage unit with Quartz Crystals alone, only so I could throw it ceremoniously into lava.
Ultimate without XYcraft is like ice cream without unhealthy side effects. I'll download and play this once I get home today.
@Captainnana, I'd love to see a modlist which also declares which mods were added specifically as substitutes for "missing" mods, and which mods were added "just cuz." Or alternatively a modlist that has a "FTB Ultimate" column and "Ultimate: Resurrection Equivalent" column.
At a glance, Harvestcraft was added "just cuz", but then I don't really recall the Ultimate list that well, so maybe I shouldn't be so annoyed about it
At a glance, Harvestcraft was added "just cuz", but then I don't really recall the Ultimate list that well, so maybe I shouldn't be so annoyed about it
ftbwiki.org GregTech documentation is not updated to 1.7.10 GregTech 5. The official FTB and official GregTech wiki is at http://ftb.gamepedia.com/GregTech There is less information, but the information that is there is actually useful for this version of GregTech. It has gone through 4 major versions since Ultimate: GT2, GT3, GT4, and now GT5. Things are not the same.
The amount that GT "messes" with other mods has been basically the same since 1.4.7.
http://ee3.pahimar.com/
I believe we did have EBXL in the mod list at some point, but removed it. It doesn't actually stand out during gameplay, and I believe the ore gen has some biome-specific stuff. Adding too many biomes would make it hard to find the ores needed to progress through the pack.
I'm not going to get involved in the actual drama/bashing part of this, but I would like to agree with @Wagon153 that Greg is a pretty cool dude.
Ooooh that's a good idea. I should do that on the wiki...
Thanks Santa, look forward to reading that.
IIRC, Ultimate added the "casual" configuration for GregTech. You didn't have the 2-sticks-per-plank stuff going on, etc. Basically people wanted the machines without the scaling and balance and whatnot, which is cool enough. I'm guessing Resurrection does the same (which will automatically deprecate a huge chunk of GT but who cares, that's not what the pack is about)
IIRC, Ultimate added the "casual" configuration for GregTech. You didn't have the 2-sticks-per-plank stuff going on, etc. Basically people wanted the machines without the scaling and balance and whatnot, which is cool enough. I'm guessing Resurrection does the same (which will automatically deprecate a huge chunk of GT but who cares, that's not what the pack is about)
GT dates back to a time when there was a lot of blurring between mod and modpack. Whereas a mod gives pieces of an experience, a modpack provides the experience as a whole.
Some modders crossed over into trying to provide the full experience. GregTech's a perfect example of this, by adjusting "basic" mechanics to make the mod function a certain way.
Nowadays we have a better distinction: modders offer amazing configuration abilities, and packmakers have things like ModTweaker/MineTweaker to make adjustments as needed to provide specifically-tailored gamer experiences.
I'm glad GT is in this pack by default. The argument goes both ways. Instead of forcing players to add it if they want it, by default they get closer to the Ultimate experience. Its easier to disable a mod you don't want than to add one you do, and anyone who can't play a pack because they can't hit the disable button...well, some people you just can't work with.
Most of that "super hard" stuff wasn't actually in GT yet during 1.4.7. "Hard mode" was enabled, but that just meant slightly more expensive IC2 and Quarry recipes. All that other stuff came in 1.5.2.
There are a few odd choices in the pack. It could certainly have done with a public review. A beta where suggestions are actually lessened to. There's bin a severe "we will do what we want" mentality being displayed around here lately.
Action: We state we want a general pack. Response: you can go some where else or make it your self. Result: We do.
Action: We don't want you mucking with the What's new section of the forum. Response: What's new is mucked with. Result: A stagnate and boring forum section.
And if you weren't going to make a general pack then what is this new one? It certainly isn't a duplicate of the original. Even if it had reproduced the old mod list exactly the mods have all changed to much. They are practically new mods, heck most of them are new mods. It has the potential to be a good mod pack. But simply holding to the old version but only adding aesthetic mods just isn't going to work.
A open suggestion forum would do wonders for rounding out the mod list and make most of us happier. Or at lest give us a better place to argue about it.
Besides without xycraft it just isn't the same.
P.S. They even included Journey Map despite the fact that they should know it causes lag. :/
Go back, take your time and actually read the entire original post, sounding out the words aloud if you need to.
Near the bottom it quite clearly states that the pack is still in Alpha. There's even a little window you have to click past in order to start the pack, but I guess that requires reading as well.
Here, I'll help you a bit:
The sentence right above the one you snark-emphasized says that the modlist is 'pretty much final', which means that the community did not get an open period to influence the included mods significantly. I don't think it's necessary to be so patronizing.
I would really like to see Ender IO in the pack, as the GregTech item pipes are pretty frustrating and much less flexible than EIO conduits. I also feel that auto-extraction of fluids and items in an intuitive and easy way is bare-minimum for any tech pack. It's especially critical for servers, as bad buildcraft and other pipe systems can significantly impact everyone's play with lag.
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