Mechanics discussion: all about the grind

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Cptqrk

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In addition, I loathe things that require diamonds to craft. I have the worst luck finding diamonds every world I play to the point where when I stop playing a world, it is usually because I needed diamonds for something and could not get enough. I spend half my game spelunking while a quarry or bore scavenges for diamonds and I still run at a shortage. The best point in my MC life is when I randomly generated a RFTools dimension and got diamond ore tendrils... but sadness ensues because that world is hilariously unstable and lags quite a bit.

I feel your pain on the diamonds part, but this is modded. You can make diamonds for fairly cheap


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I know the pain of lacking diamonds. I have had bugger all luck with finding them. I've always ended up hunting for alternate methods of finding them. Whether going after Railcraft Geodes for their Dark Diamond Ore, or hunting through The Twilight Forest hollow hills. Pneaumaticraft has a recipe for turning Coal Blocks into diamonds, 8:1, and I've used that a fair bit.

Lots of people complain about the time taken for the cart assembler, and I completely agree. Except... I find if you're going to go to all the trouble of making the assembler, there's no reason not to make the upgrades, including the one that chops time and cost off. Industrial Espionage I think. It makes most carts take a few seconds.
 
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^This

Make two so you don't have to wait for one processing to be done to start the second


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Diamond farm set-up using the compressor:
1. Move a Skelly spawner in the nether or use a MFR Auto-Spawner with a Wither Skelly in it which is set to spawn exact copy and have a grinder
2. Filter the drops
3. Use some pipes/itemducts/item conduits to move the coal the Wither Skellys spawn into 2 or 3 compressors
4. ???
5. Profit
 
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Type1Ninja

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IC2 is in *allmost* all packs. If you are hurting for diamonds, but swimming in coal and flint, it's worth the hassle.


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Not my private pack. :p
Plus it irks me to have to use a mod that I actively dislike for going where it has (whether I'm justified is a different story and not to be discussed here; it is enough to say that it makes me crabby to have to use it).
 

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I know the pain of lacking diamonds. I have had bugger all luck with finding them. I've always ended up hunting for alternate methods of finding them. Whether going after Railcraft Geodes for their Dark Diamond Ore, or hunting through The Twilight Forest hollow hills. Pneaumaticraft has a recipe for turning Coal Blocks into diamonds, 8:1, and I've used that a fair bit.

Lots of people complain about the time taken for the cart assembler, and I completely agree. Except... I find if you're going to go to all the trouble of making the assembler, there's no reason not to make the upgrades, including the one that chops time and cost off. Industrial Espionage I think. It makes most carts take a few seconds.
It irks me that I even have to go through all of that, so any pack I use with Steve's Carts gets the whole suite of Steve's mods deleted.
 

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It irks me that I even have to go through all of that, so any pack I use with Steve's Carts gets the whole suite of Steve's mods deleted.
Aye...I'm not sure if it'd be affected by something like a Watch of Flowing Time or a ChromatiCraft tile accelerator, but the fact you all but need one to get a cart of any usability is patently ridiculous. It should not take several hours to assemble a collection of parts. A few minutes, sure, but when I can start an assembly, go make dinner, take a shower, brush my teeth, use the bathroom, and drink two beers and still be only halfway done with assembling a machine, something has gone horribly awry.
 
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Yep, Steve's carts is a perfect example of a time gate going wrong.
It's also quite powerful when you get it set up but me personally and id wager I'm not alone in this, avoid the mod because of the horrendous waits.
Sure you can do something else but chances are you don't have a lot of tasks to do. Also just say the cart In question was how you where going to gather enough materials for a building project.


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I think maybe you guys are using it wrong. I recognize that the mod varies considerably by setup, but what are you using the carts for? I setup a cart that takes twenty minutes to make, and then go setup the track, and the automation for extracting items and ensuring it has fuel. When I come back it's usually been more than enough time.

Unless of course you're doing all the prepwork and then starting it off. In that case, I can't help.
 

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I was using it at a time where a long lasting fully upgraded wood farmer took 24 rl hours to construct.
I'd rather use a forestry farm.

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Azzanine

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The other cutting implements are just not worth the hassle. However if steves cart's where the only wood farms available I'd probably wait it out. I might even progress linearly amd not skip to Galgador.

I mean image if you only really had 1 hour of game time every 2 days imagine how many sessions it would take just to get a tree farm set up.
Then again such a person probably couldn't getvin to MC at all and probably grinds enough in their vocation.

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The other cutting implements are just not worth the hassle. However if steves cart's where the only wood farms available I'd probably wait it out. I might even progress linearly amd not skip to Galgador.

I mean image if you only really had 1 hour of game time every 2 days imagine how many sessions it would take just to get a tree farm set up.
Then again such a person probably couldn't getvin to MC at all and probably grinds enough in their vocation.
MFR Harvester and Planter. Done.
 

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Aye...I'm not sure if it'd be affected by something like a Watch of Flowing Time or a ChromatiCraft tile accelerator, but the fact you all but need one to get a cart of any usability is patently ridiculous. It should not take several hours to assemble a collection of parts. A few minutes, sure, but when I can start an assembly, go make dinner, take a shower, brush my teeth, use the bathroom, and drink two beers and still be only halfway done with assembling a machine, something has gone horribly awry.
Yep, Steve's carts is a perfect example of a time gate going wrong.
It's also quite powerful when you get it set up but me personally and id wager I'm not alone in this, avoid the mod because of the horrendous waits.
Sure you can do something else but chances are you don't have a lot of tasks to do. Also just say the cart In question was how you where going to gather enough materials for a building project.


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I just minetweakered the creative upgrade for the crafting station to be made of dirt. Problem solved. :D
I mean image if you only really had 1 hour of game time every 2 days imagine how many sessions it would take just to get a tree farm set up.
Then again such a person probably couldn't getvin to MC at all and probably grinds enough in their vocation.
I don't need to imagine, I can CALCULATE! It takes 48 days. :p
And you're right about not being able to get into MC. I AM that person. I used to have time, so I played a lot, but now that I don't get more than a half hour per day I play TF2 almost exclusively. Pick it up, go save some team from horrible defeat by playing medic, get off and go back to whatever real-life task I was doing before. :p

(although I do kinda keep up with modstuff and hang around here anyway)
 
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