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No, I did not just claim that all of vanilla is perfectly balanced. I claimed that basic recipes like wooden planks and iron pickaxes are balanced enough that they've worked perfectly fine ever since they were implemented.
By the way, comparing Gregtech's nerfs to the civil rights movement is a bit ridiculous.
If Greg's changing the core gameplay, he should do it in his own modpack, instead of forcing it on everyone playing FTB.
Ah yes, but I don't think Greg is forcing them to add the mod to FTB... FTB team is adding it themselves.
How about, list the ones that intentionally crash because another mod changes one of their recipes.
In fact, you should ask slowpoke what he thinks is the core gameplay of the FTB Ultimate pack.[DOUBLEPOST=1374176941][/DOUBLEPOST]
None. List mods that intentionally tries to break another mod's sole purpose? clue: Starts with a T and ends to a T. Has 2 words.
The reason is they worked too well.
I merely brought examples where a long held common knowledge was changed basically by thinking about it long enough. I'm almost certain that won't happen in vanilla-MC any time soon, though, but I wouldn't be surprised if other mods follow suite for rebalancing vanilla. Several mods out there that does do any significant rebalancing of it already do similar changes to picks for example.
What is the purpose of the two input boxes on the plate bending machine? It seems like the first one is just a queue for the second one. Or are there recipes that require two different types of inputs? If so I haven't found any using NEI. Any why two output boxes?
I think this proves my previous point.
You do know that it was greg that implemented the crash right? Not MDiyo?
Mostly for convenience sake. It also helps to make writing the mod easier if you can share the basic way how UI works between several machines.
Of course there are some machines where both input/output slots do get used for crafting things.[DOUBLEPOST=1374177272][/DOUBLEPOST]
He was hinting at a mod making it impossible for the other mod conf to be used. Crashing is another issue and has not been considered a valid "solution" by anyone relevant.
My intention is not to say that GT didn't do stupid things. My intention is to make it aware that Mdiyo did stupid things which GT overreacted to. And now, scared of other people trying to hack his mod he left a trigger that will cause an exception if anything else tries to hack it again.
That's what i'm trying to get through to people
The forum community of FTB are so much against GT that they dont even listen to and see the whole picture of what happened, instead they just want to "REMOVE GT BECAUSE MALICIOUS BWAAH BWAAH BWAAH" also "Mdiyo didnt do anything wrong. IT MUST BE GREG!"
Well, then, maybe they just shouldn't add it. Alternatively, Greg could add configs to disable ALL of his nerfs, (even better, a single config like de-nerfEverything=true/false), and they could be set to not nerf everything by default in the FTB ultimate pack.
I agree with MissRaptor. I believe that while Greg was wrong in his decision to intentionally crash the game, I would still prefer to use GT, as I enjoy the challenges that it brings to modded Minecraft. For those of you with the argument that a macerator is too expensive with GT, the Thermal Expansion Pulverizer is works just as well, if not better.
Yes, so we can just for now have a non GT Version and get the GT one as soon as possible (Oh, and greg has lost basically ALL his followers. Greg=Retard)
So Greg can change other mod's recipes to his liking without a config (the bronze nerf and tin bucket nerf config option zomg u wnt creitive hur u go 111 items!11! does NOT count), but when Gregtech breaks another mod with his nerf, and that modder actually takes a stand against it, Greg decides to crash the whole damn game.
It's hypocrisy. And for the record, Greg did fire the first shot.
It's hypocrisy. And for the record, Greg did fire the first shot.
I would understand if it was Sengir attacking Greg for not having configs for forestry bronze for example... but this was Mdiyo attacking GT for a recipe change in VANILLA minecraft. and how did Greg fire the first shot?
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