FTB slow with proper hardware

[jodelahithit]

Hey, this is a widely discussed topic but i can't really find an answer to my question anywhere on the forums so i'll ask for some help here.

I've been playing FTB since the early modpacks and i have always had about 50-80 fps, no problem but when a world gets loaded with all sorts of machinery it can start to drop my fps quite a bit.

In my years of minecraft and FTB i've been experimenting with a lot of things to speed up my game and i have found some methods to work and some not to. Examples of working methods are: Optifine (I know this only helps on some pcs), VM arguments and 4 Gb ram allocated.

Now my question is: How do players (streamers as an example) get really high fps in their FTB modpacks? My pc is strong enough to handle quite some games (specs down at the bottom).
Like i said, i have tried a lot of things and over the years it has become better but still not what i want, got some tips or can anyone explain why this is?

I'm using:
Windows 7 64 bit
Java 8 64 bit
FTB Infinity
(My FTB is on my SSD drive)

16 GB ddr3 ram (1333 MHz)
Nividia GeForce GTX 550 TI
Intel Core i7 2600

How can i get better results? It seems like my pc could easily handle more.
My minecraft is now using 6 GB ram with 4 gb allocated (5 GB unused) and my pc is only on 35% processor usage max.

Thanks for your time!

 

[skruis]

In Infinity w/ a Sphax x64 patch, my FPS can range anywhere from 70-150. If I run the GSLS Shaders mod w/ SEUS preview 2, I get 25-45fps. That's w/ a i7-4770k, gtx 970 and 10GB assigned to FTB/MC.

 

[Moasseman]

10GB assigned to FTB/MC.

Ohgodbears

 

[skruis]

Ha, yea, FTB/MC was flaking out when I tried running the Sphax x128 patch so I up'd the memory and I didn't feel like going bit by bit so I just dragged it far to the right and said "F*** it".

 

[jodelahithit]

Ha, yea, FTB/MC was flaking out when I tried running the Sphax x128 patch so I up'd the memory and I didn't feel like going bit by bit so I just dragged it far to the right and said "F*** it".

Hmm allocating more than 3-5 gb ram isnt good, normally it's only worse since it has so much to use...

 

[skruis]

I would have to say that I've experienced the opposite.

 

[DriftinFool]

Hey, this is a widely discussed topic but i can't really find an answer to my question anywhere on the forums so i'll ask for some help here.

I've been playing FTB since the early modpacks and i have always had about 50-80 fps, no problem but when a world gets loaded with all sorts of machinery it can start to drop my fps quite a bit.

In my years of minecraft and FTB i've been experimenting with a lot of things to speed up my game and i have found some methods to work and some not to. Examples of working methods are: Optifine (I know this only helps on some pcs), VM arguments and 4 Gb ram allocated.

Now my question is: How do players (streamers as an example) get really high fps in their FTB modpacks? My pc is strong enough to handle quite some games (specs down at the bottom).
Like i said, i have tried a lot of things and over the years it has become better but still not what i want, got some tips or can anyone explain why this is?

I'm using:
Windows 7 64 bit
Java 8 64 bit
FTB Infinity
(My FTB is on my SSD drive)

16 GB ddr3 ram (1333 MHz)
Nividia GeForce GTX 550 TI
Intel Core i7 2600

How can i get better results? It seems like my pc could easily handle more.
My minecraft is now using 6 GB ram with 4 gb allocated (5 GB unused) and my pc is only on 35% processor usage max.

Thanks for your time!

It's more than just your actual hardware. How it's connected and running makes a big difference too. Is your hard drive fast, have a large cache, or even an SSD? Does your system use SATA 3 or SATA 2 between the drives and processor. Does your mother board have enough internal bandwidth to fully use your graphics card? I am on an old i5 760, a 560 TI superclocked edition, and only 8 gigs of ddr3 and yet I manage to pull much better FPS than quite a few people I see post on the forums with better systems than me. My chip is overclocked to 3.66. My RAM runs at 1600 mghz. My hard drive has a 32 mb cache and I have it partitioned so my games are not on the same partition as my OS and background stuff. It also uses SATA 3 internally for faster data transfer. My mother board is a fairly decent ASUS board that fully supports the max bandwidth my graphics card and RAM can use so I have no bottle necks. I did alot of homework when I built it so it would be this way. Many thrown together systems people build as well as many off the shelf systems don't always have matched parts and you don't ever get the full potential of the individual components you used.

I am not surprised you don't get great FPS with a 550 TI. I am only getting around 70 with the next step up(560 TI) and it is overclocked. I expect as my world grows and gets more things in it, I will drop to below 50.

 

[jodelahithit]

It's more than just your actual hardware. How it's connected and running makes a big difference too. Is your hard drive fast, have a large cache, or even an SSD? Does your system use SATA 3 or SATA 2 between the drives and processor. Does your mother board have enough internal bandwidth to fully use your graphics card? I am on an old i5 760, a 560 TI superclocked edition, and only 8 gigs of ddr3 and yet I manage to pull much better FPS than quite a few people I see post on the forums with better systems than me. My chip is overclocked to 3.66. My RAM runs at 1600 mghz. My hard drive has a 32 mb cache and I have it partitioned so my games are not on the same partition as my OS and background stuff. It also uses SATA 3 internally for faster data transfer. My mother board is a fairly decent ASUS board that fully supports the max bandwidth my graphics card and RAM can use so I have no bottle necks. I did alot of homework when I built it so it would be this way. Many thrown together systems people build as well as many off the shelf systems don't always have matched parts and you don't ever get the full potential of the individual components you used.

I am not surprised you don't get great FPS with a 550 TI. I am only getting around 70 with the next step up(560 TI) and it is overclocked. I expect as my world grows and gets more things in it, I will drop to below 50.

I have a SSD that is connected with SATA 2 and a quite fast (recently bought it) 3 tb harddrive connected with SATA 3, which would you suggest and should i make a partition for mc? I have no clue how to see the internal bandwidth, i'm using a medionpc ms-7738 mother board.
I recently bought this pc from a friend so i'm not really sure what has been done to it but if you have any tips it would be much apreciated!
Should i buy a new (better) graphics card?

 

[Gamefury64]

Have you tried fastcraft?

 

[jodelahithit]

Have you tried fastcraft?

Fastcraft is a standard included mod in ftb infinity

 

[Hambeau]

It's more than just your actual hardware. How it's connected and running makes a big difference too. Is your hard drive fast, have a large cache, or even an SSD? Does your system use SATA 3 or SATA 2 between the drives and processor. Does your mother board have enough internal bandwidth to fully use your graphics card? I am on an old i5 760, a 560 TI superclocked edition, and only 8 gigs of ddr3 and yet I manage to pull much better FPS than quite a few people I see post on the forums with better systems than me. My chip is overclocked to 3.66. My RAM runs at 1600 mghz. My hard drive has a 32 mb cache and I have it partitioned so my games are not on the same partition as my OS and background stuff. It also uses SATA 3 internally for faster data transfer. My mother board is a fairly decent ASUS board that fully supports the max bandwidth my graphics card and RAM can use so I have no bottle necks. I did alot of homework when I built it so it would be this way. Many thrown together systems people build as well as many off the shelf systems don't always have matched parts and you don't ever get the full potential of the individual components you used.

I am not surprised you don't get great FPS with a 550 TI. I am only getting around 70 with the next step up(560 TI) and it is overclocked. I expect as my world grows and gets more things in it, I will drop to below 50.

^This.

You have to take more into account than just the CPU/GPU combo.

For example: SATA differences...
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii
This is not to say that Different SATA devices can run this fast, but a bigger bandwidth channel will run more efficiently and better devices will approach the maximum bandwidth more closely than cheaper ones.

Ram can make a heck of a difference. Right now my 8GB ram is a sub-optimal DDR3-1333Mhz 8GB o.c'd to 1666Mhz ram... My CPU (AMD) has the ram controller built in and can run DDR-3 1866Mhz o.c'd to 2100Mhz. They may have a faster ram controller in a new compatible CPU but I fully expect to have to upgrade my CPU, Ram and Mainboard to get a real upgrade.

I'm not sold on SSDs, since in my experience I can run a Ramdisk much faster than any SSD I've seen yet. SSDs are up to 100 times faster than HDs but I've configured Ramdisks 500 times faster than HDs.

If I get to the point of having a system with at least 32GB ram (possible with the current system) I can build a setup that uses the Microsoft PXE (Pre-boot eXicution Environment) to create a ramdisk, move the boot image to the Ramdisk and start it as my boot drive, similar to how windows now installs itself by creating a Ramdisk to work from..
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb694069.aspx

I have my plans... I just have to wait for my system to catch up [evil laughter]

 

[jodelahithit]

Ok thanks for all the help, i'm guessing if i really want improvement i will need to buy a new motherboard and gpu soon. I'll also look into overclocking.