Factorization processing. Is it worth it? Also, a concept.

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Kocyk

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I'd say it's quite good actually, since it keep mixers from filling with either buckets or dirty gravel. That's all you need for mixer automation.
 

Booker The Geek

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I'm just wondering - is my solution for mixers with two routers bad?
No bad at all. Two routers for the mixers is what I first went with, and it works quite well as long as you can keep the router supplying the buckets full. I ended up adding soothe router that extracts from a barrel and ejects into the bucket insertion router. How do I full buckets? With a xycraft tank w/two I/o valves. One is set to insert attacks of empty buckets , the other has a wooden pipe powered by that redstone energy cell pulling them out faster them the AE network can keep it stocked.

How do you keep the bucket router full?

I'd say it's quite good actually, since it keep mixers from filling with either buckets or dirty gravel. That's all you need for mixer automation.
Very true.
 

PonyKuu

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In my concept build I fill the router via AE export bus. AE system fills buckets using liquid transposer hooked to an Aqueous Accumulator and a pair of buses...
 

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And is the export bus filling the routers as fast as your mixers are going through them? After you get about 12 or more mixers in your concept build, load the system up with dirty gravel and stand on top of the mixers watching to see if they constantly spin. The export bus is going to become your bottle neck in that part of your build if you expand past 12ish.
 

PonyKuu

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Hmm, is it that bad? There are some possibilites... Like multiple exprot busese or something like that...
 

Booker The Geek

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Only that full water buckets don't stack, and since the multiple expert bus will all try to output on the same tick, only one will make it cause the others will see the space as full. You need to find a way to keep the router filled as quick as possible.

Try this....

X = pipe
W = wood pipe
S = Redstone energy cell
R = router
M = ME interface

X X X
X S X
X W M
R

Set it up for the ME interface to stock six full water buckets. Set the energy cell to one mj. It will pull out buckets, keep the router full, and place extra buckets back into the network.[DOUBLEPOST=1367913095][/DOUBLEPOST]The router should be under the wood pipe, (on my phone and can't get the spacing right). Wood pie needs to be set to pull from the interface. Actually, it might work writhe the router under the stone pipe instead of the wood one. Or try a diamond pipe over the router an and place a bucket in the shot headed towards the router. That way it will try and insert, but if it is full, out will just bounce up and back towards the me
 

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I don't like messing with buildcraft pipes... I'm trying to avoid using them. That might work, but every buildcraft overrflow solution seems inelegant and messy for me. Well, except for diamond pipes maybe. Maybe vanilla hopper under ME Interface? But that's for 1.5.1...
 

Booker The Geek

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In that case....

Put another router next to your bucket insertion router. Seperate those two from the router inserting the dirty gravel. Set the extra router to extract from a barrel that you place on top of it and set it to eject to whatever side your bucket insertion router I'd on. Then put the me export bus on the barrel.
 

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I like hearing peoples ideas on factorization automation.
I designed the following thinking about the things mentioned in this thread. (It works, maybe it's not the best in any category, but it looks good to me!)
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FivEven

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Compact design. Mostly just for looks, but good for server/afk reduced chunks of ore.
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AE makes buffering and input really easy... Still cannot conceive of a compact fully auto crystalizer design that doesn't include a lot of routers or lots of programming. (I don't plan to do programming.)
 

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It's really cool, by the way, that the mixer is optional now. This means that the amazing Liquicrafter from MFR is a good option. But it also means you can use other stuff to automate the process that is more amenable to piping.
 

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It's really cool, by the way, that the mixer is optional now. This means that the amazing Liquicrafter from MFR is a good option. But it also means you can use other stuff to automate the process that is more amenable to piping.
Just f.y.i....

  • So in my test world I was trying to see just how many grinders I can output before a fabricator would become the choke point of the system.... And then I realize I am losing buckets. A LOT of buckets... So make sure you test it out in a test environment before you decide to go that route.
  • The amount of sludge is drastically reduced when using shapeless crafting. I was averaging about 20 sludge per stack of dirty gravel.

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Oh yeah, and a Redstone energy cell + xycraft i/o port on a water tank + wood pipe = 576 buckets filled in under10 sec.... Holy crap. I may never use tranposers again to fill water
 

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So in my test world I was trying to see just how many grinders I can output before a fabricator would become the choke point of the system.... And then I realize I am losing buckets. A LOT of buckets... So make sure you test it out in a test environment before you decide to go that route.

A liquicrafter is not a fabricator though. You pump water in directly, and that's used instead of a bucket.
 

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It is funny that you're losing buckets. My current AE/factorization system dupes buckets so quickly that I had to put in a void pipe and a level emitter to get rid of them.

I have six mixers for each ore type, twelve for iron. Each group of six is filled by a sorting machine. All of them are emptied by one router. The empty buckets get dumped into AE, filled by 2 liquid transposers, then sent back out to the sorting machines.

Example: http://i.imgur.com/O0AocUT.jpg

Stripped off the covers from one set so the tubes would be visible. A handful of barrels beneath the floor "network" the mixers groups together so I can empty them with one router.
 
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