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hallowhead1

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Tell me if you'd like some more details.
Well i most certainly would like more details as i will be trying these boilers out. My form of energy right now is one low voltage solar panel that charges an mfsu, that runs 7 electric engines which runs all my machines and charges my redstone cell, but my power in my mfsu during the day barely goes up as the intake and outtake are roughly the same. That is why i started the quarries to hope to get copper to make more solar panels. But these boilers may be something i need to start making, but i have not the slightest clue about them.
 

Guswut

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What if you made a link book inside the tank, then let it be created?

Ohh, a good idea. I will try that out tonight as I'm going to need a fourth mercury tank fairly soon.

Well i most certainly would like more details as i will be trying these boilers out. My form of energy right now is one low voltage solar panel that charges an mfsu, that runs 7 electric engines which runs all my machines and charges my redstone cell, but my power in my mfsu during the day barely goes up as the intake and outtake are roughly the same. That is why i started the quarries to hope to get copper to make more solar panels. But these boilers may be something i need to start making, but i have not the slightest clue about them.

Boilers aren't too complicated. You either use solid or liquid depending on what you want to use to feed it. From there, you give it water (NEVER let it run out of water! The best bet is to put an accumulator right under it with a water pool there so it'll constantly feed it). With fuel and water, the boiler will produce steam.

High pressure (HP) boilers produce twice as much steam as low pressure (LP) boilers, but they need to be warmed up to 1000° versus 500° for low pressure boilers. At max. temp., both boilers produce the same steam-per-fuel amount, so you go with high pressure if you want to optimize space and will keep it running at full temp. at all times.

The best way I've found to deal with steam is via liquiducts. You use steam engines to produce MJ, and from there, profit!

When you get past that point, come back and we can start discussing using a ComputerCraft turtle with a BuildCraft assembly-table made gate to automatically move filled redstone cells.

And, of course, if you don't mind the 25% hit in power, you can use an energy tesseract.

Just as a fyi / amusement, i'll leave this link to another thread here..
http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/thr...what-but-still-kinda-silly.11777/#post-134843
;)
Oh man, that is awesome! That also makes me wonder if using the TP command would get me in one of those tanks. I'm going to have to play around with this on create tonight, for sure.
 

hallowhead1

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I am working on learning this in single player i have already have the boiler built but it sure eats fuel, what is a good source of fuel for it?
 

Guswut

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I am working on learning this in single player i have already have the boiler built but it sure eats fuel, what is a good source of fuel for it?

Solid, or liquid?

For solid, Steve's Cart tree farms is one of the best ways.

For liquid, sugarcane trees farms are nice, although if you have a decent EU grid, hydrogen appears to be an even better way.
 

jumpfight5

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Solid, or liquid?

For solid, Steve's Cart tree farms is one of the best ways.

For liquid, sugarcane trees farms are nice, although if you have a decent EU grid, hydrogen appears to be an even better way.

Saw that post with your 50 million sugarcane farms...
Can I get that CC code? :D
 

hallowhead1

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i have a lot of research to do lol, i have no clue on what either of those are :<[DOUBLEPOST=1361920470][/DOUBLEPOST]also how do you use sugarcane?
 

Guswut

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Saw that post with your 50 million sugarcane farms...
Can I get that CC code? :D


Sure, although I don't have it on me (I really should start bookmarking my pastebin posts for my code), so I'll try and create it offhand:

Code:
vCounter = 0
vPlaceDirt = 4
vPlaceCane = 1
 
print("Farm skyscraper building turtle ready to go, sir!")
 
while turtle.up() then
 print("WHEE! I'm flying!"
 vCounter = vCounter + 1
 
 if vCounter = vPlaceCane then
  turtle.select(2)
  turtle.placeDown()
  print("Cane placed, sir!")
 elseif vCounter = vPlaceDirt then
  turtle.select(1)
  turtle.placeDown()
  vCounter = 0
  print("Dirt placed, sir!")
 end
 
end
 
print("Well, that was fun!")

Feel free to change/remove the print lines as those are my way of adding basic comments as I can never remember the LUA comment tag (and this is more fun, anyways).

If this doesn't work, quote my post, and I'll post what I used when I get home.

i have a lot of research to do lol, i have no clue on what either of those are :<[DOUBLEPOST=1361920470][/DOUBLEPOST]also how do you use sugarcane?

Mm, well then, you may need to start with something more like this: http://railcraft.wikispaces.com/Steam+Boiler+(Device)

Also, take a look at this video:
I did not watch it completely myself, but it shows someone setting up a boiler decently well enough to give you a run at how it works.
 

jumpfight5

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WHEE! I'm flying!

*Finds other code*

Thanks, I have yet to find a nice shorter video on CC programming...Max I'll watch is an hour or maybe 2 so I can get started at least. I know a few things, but...not really much.

Speaking of CC, you can make a monitor, with only cobble! YAY!
 

KirinDave

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I am working on learning this in single player i have already have the boiler built but it sure eats fuel, what is a good source of fuel for it?

A Tree farm of any sort of sufficient size should keep low-pressure boilers going so long as it's automated. Some people love to make high pressure boilers, but I think it's wiser to start with a low pressure boiler and make sure you can sustain that before moving to the HP boiler, which appears to be the higher-power-lower-efficiency option.

By the way... don't feel pressured into making boilers. The truth of the matter is that if you nose around you can find ways to make effectively infinite amounts of an MJ-able resource on demand. And remember; thaumcraft furnaces and golems use no external power source. If you're struggling to bootstrap the process (or spending too much fuel handling the metal production), Thaumcraft is a good place to appeal to.
 

jumpfight5

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A Tree farm of any sort of sufficient size should keep low-pressure boilers going so long as it's automated. Some people love to make high pressure boilers, but I think it's wiser to start with a low pressure boiler and make sure you can sustain that before moving to the HP boiler, which appears to be the higher-power-lower-efficiency option.

By the way... don't feel pressured into making boilers. The truth of the matter is that if you nose around you can find ways to make effectively infinite amounts of an MJ-able resource on demand. And remember; thaumcraft furnaces and golems use no external power source. If you're struggling to bootstrap the process (or spending too much fuel handling the metal production), Thaumcraft is a good place to appeal to.

HP and LP have the same efficiency.

DISCLAIMER: When they're both heated up to max.

But if you can handle HP, stick with it since it is less iron and'll give you twice the energy for half the room.
 

KirinDave

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HP and LP have the same efficiency.

DISCLAIMER: When they're both heated up to max.

But if you can handle HP, stick with it since it is less iron and'll give you twice the energy for half the room.

You can always convert later. It's more about asking, "Can I sustain this device?"
 

abculatter_2

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Eww, I never seem to have enough dirt. I have tons of lapis, and uranium, when I'm just walking around the hole my drill makes, I kinda just pick off some ruby ore and uranium ore. But I never have enough dirt. Or clay for that matter. The only way I know how to make renewable clay is through UU, which I am not wasting on anything like...clay.
Wheat -> Moistener -> Mycelium -> Centrifuge -> Clay.
Alternatively, you can always set up a Free Peat Generator, either with that piston method, or if you know how to automated with a digging turtle. This should generate plenty of dirt if you make it big enough, and you'll get equal amounts of peat to boot.
 
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Korenn

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This is using a minium stone I guess? since there's no way to get there in mindcrack pack from just cobble.

You forgot gravel, flint and iron (not UU matter) on the list :)

And never use bronze for alloy, always use brass ;) Tungsten, Tin, Brass gives 5 Mixed Metal Ingot, so you can add that to the list as well.

Advanced Alloy + iron opens up a vast number of things you can make. I wonder if someone should setup a challenge map for just that? Create everything possible using just generated cobblestone and energy.
 

jumpfight5

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I don't know how to make Iron from cobblestone! D: How do you do it?

But no, these recipes have no use with any Minum stone, cause...that's like everything, right? Anyways, I don't know how to use it, I MindCrack, never Direwolf'd before :p. No way? Oh, there's a way alright :D. If you want me to tell you, I'll trade you for iron :3

I count the Tin Bucket recipe to iron as a bug though, so let's hope it's not that.
 

abculatter_2

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This is using a minium stone I guess? since there's no way to get there in mindcrack pack from just cobble.
Nope, railcraft Rock Crusher has a ">1%" chance of making a diamond from gavel, and is capable of turning cobblestone into gravel with a guaranteed chance.

EDIT @ POST ABOVE: cobblestone -> Magma crucible -> Obsidian -> pulverizer -> Industrial electrolyzer -> Iron + some other stuff.
 

Korenn

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I don't know how to make Iron from cobblestone! D: How do you do it?

But no, these recipes have no use with any Minum stone, cause...that's like everything, right? Anyways, I don't know how to use it, I MindCrack, never Direwolf'd before :p. No way? Oh, there's a way alright :D. If you want me to tell you, I'll trade you for iron :3

I count the Tin Bucket recipe to iron as a bug though, so let's hope it's not that.
grind up obsidian and put that in an industrial centrifuge to get iron dust! :)
 

KirinDave

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Nope, railcraft Rock Crusher has a ">1%" chance of making a diamond from gavel, and is capable of turning cobblestone into gravel with a guaranteed chance.

EDIT @ POST ABOVE: cobblestone -> Magma crucible -> Obsidian -> pulverizer -> Industrial electrolyzer -> Iron + some other stuff.

If you have TE machines, there is almost no reason to ever do anything but void/burn your cobble. The Igneous Extruder can make infinite cobble which is then immediately lava-ized. Even a little bit of starter lava will do, since last time I checked the IE uses 0 lava to produce cobble. The cobble generation is not the power hungry part.
 

Guswut

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If you have TE machines, there is almost no reason to ever do anything but void/burn your cobble. The Igneous Extruder can make infinite cobble which is then immediately lava-ized. Even a little bit of starter lava will do, since last time I checked the IE uses 0 lava to produce cobble. The cobble generation is not the power hungry part.

Yeah, zero lava and one water used for cobblestone, one millibucket of lava and one bucket of water for smoothstone, and I think it is one bucket of both lava and water for obsidian. It is a wonderful device. No power required, either!