Early Botania Mana Garden
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douplepost!, but I found something useful Exploiting strange water mechanics I managed to get 14 hydros in a 9x9 area. Each flower has 3 unique source blocks to pull from, and it won't ever run dry, unless some sneaky flower pulls two sources at once.
I don't think it's easily tile-able though.
should I keep putting images in spoilers all the time? it seems the nice thing to do, but I don't know if it's annoying anyone
now, can anyone take what I did, and make it better? I probably haven't tried all patterns utilising this water mechanic..
edit: facepalm... there's enough space to do the 3-wide dirt thing on both sides...
So there should be room for 16 flowers, each with 3 source blocks
edit2: A simpler solution, if you want 16 flowers - just have two layers. although there's only 1 source per flower
1 source block per flower with a few more water pools, and it'll never run dry.
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edit2: A simpler solution, if you want 16 flowers - just have two layers. although there's only 1 source per flower
playing with hydroangeas is interesting..
1 source block per flower with a few more water pools, and it'll never run dry.
This is my 8 x 8 setup I am using, although instead of cobble, I use dirt, then plant alternating dayblooms and nightshades. Also dirt on top of the water sources and plant more dayblooms and nightshades there as well.
Yeah, I tried out the setup and seems the water pools run out of water.
I don't want to make them 3x3
Any solutions?
I'm in early-game/mid-game-ish, using dw20's pack so I have a bunch of other mods.
Maybe something to refill the water? Nothing too expensive if possible
I don't want to make them 3x3
Any solutions?
I'm in early-game/mid-game-ish, using dw20's pack so I have a bunch of other mods.
Maybe something to refill the water? Nothing too expensive if possible
What does that change?
The problem isn't them getting knocked over by water, is that they will eat all the water in the 2x2 square
I didn't even know how to make them for the longest time. I thought they were craftable. Just couldn't find the recipe. Just combine a floating flower with the flower you want it to become. In the crafting grid. I think.
For lava I use a build craft flood gate that someone recommended. I imagine it would work really well for water too.
floating flowers means you can fill the spaces between the flowers with water, then theres less of a chance for them to suck up a water combination that won't refill itself, although it's still possible in the 8x8 setup. The floating flowers also opens up a myriad of other setup options that won't deplete.
Keep in mind that floating flowers were only added to the dw20 pack in 1.0.3, so It'll only work if you're on that version (I'm not sure if it's the recommended yet). for 1.0.2, try this double layer setup that'll never run out, fill the cobble with whatever you want. The ocean underneath is unneccesary
.edit2: A simpler solution, if you want 16 flowers - just have two layers. although there's only 1 source per flower
1 source block per flower with a few more water pools, and it'll never run dry.
I tend to put my dayblooms up above the pools on a dirt platform, still haven't used nightshades though, I've been turned off them since the I read in the book that they produce mana at half the speed of dayblooms. Since when I'm online I sleep through the night, and when I'm offline its half and half, no matter what a daybloom will still produce more mana over time. If I can put them underground or under a dirt block they might be worth using though.
I'm just wondering right now if the number of source blocks available affects productivity, then it might be worth fiddling with water mechanics more - or using floating flowers since I have them now
I think they need direct sun. They can also be placed between the dayblooms. Unless something else is filling the empty spaces they leave. They don't need to replace the dayblooms.
i fill the holes with more dayblooms, just a level lower
now that I think of it, I'm not entirely sure if that actually works, the book's description of the loss means it should, but I'm going to have to test to be sure.
I've now tested it, and after a few hours with two different setups each featuring 24 flowers, one in the 2-level pattern above, and one in a standard criss-cross 1-level pattern, both mana pools were about a quarter full. so it works
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supposedly you can see if the flowers are to close together by holding the wand while looking at them.
Always good to test though. Just in case something was going wrong.
floating flowers means you can fill the spaces between the flowers with water, then theres less of a chance for them to suck up a water combination that won't refill itself, although it's still possible in the 8x8 setup. The floating flowers also opens up a myriad of other setup options that won't deplete.
Keep in mind that floating flowers were only added to the dw20 pack in 1.0.3, so It'll only work if you're on that version (I'm not sure if it's the recommended yet). for 1.0.2, try this double layer setup that'll never run out, fill the cobble with whatever you want. The ocean underneath is unneccesary
I tend to put my dayblooms up above the pools on a dirt platform, still haven't used nightshades though, I've been turned off them since the I read in the book that they produce mana at half the speed of dayblooms. Since when I'm online I sleep through the night, and when I'm offline its half and half, no matter what a daybloom will still produce more mana over time. If I can put them underground or under a dirt block they might be worth using though.
I'm just wondering right now if the number of source blocks available affects productivity, then it might be worth fiddling with water mechanics more - or using floating flowers since I have them now
Yeah, I'm using 1.0.3
That setup in the pic won't work in theory, basically is the same that the OP demonstrated, with a few more flowers.
If it doesn't work with less, surely it won't work with more x.x
They just eat up all the water too quickly.
Actually, that setup is double layered in such a way that there are four 2x2x2 pools, and each 2x2x1 layer only has two flowers pulling from it, one in each corner. Since hydroangeas can only pull water from their 8 adjacent blocks, none of those pools will ever run out.
But since you're on 1.0.3 you should be able to work out a 9x9 setup that uses floating flowers pretty easy. Off the top of my head, three lines of nine, each line having three water blocks inbetween, for 27 flowers should work.
In recent versions of botania, i've found 2x2 pools can't reliably keep up with 4 hydroangeas anymore. Personally i've expanded these pools to 3x3, and on the dirt around the pools, i have 2 dayblooms and a nightshade in the middle.It's a shame as I really liked the design in the OP. I usually also add an endoflame on the edge for bursts of mana should I need it. This usually sustains me until I can get some more potent generating flora.
So you have one hydroangeas in the middle of each 3x3 pool of water?
Like this..(W=water, h=hydro)
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Not really. The problem is that the Hydroangeas consume water too fast and the pools will dry out.
You're gonna have to make sure that every source block that a Hydroangea has access to can always be refilled.
No, i don't use floating hydroangeas, i have one at the corner of the pools, but as long as there is always a way to refill the water, it works. (your design would work, but would need a floating hydrogea.