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At height 91 and maybe 10 blocks below that? You're not going to find a damn thing. Hell, vanilla ore doesn't spawn above... what... 50? You're gonna have to go a LOT deeper than that if you want to see what Dense Ores does
 

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At height 91 and maybe 10 blocks below that? You're not going to find a damn thing. Hell, vanilla ore doesn't spawn above... what... 50? You're gonna have to go a LOT deeper than that if you want to see what Dense Ores does
Oh i didn't even realize this age started me at height 90 lol, didn't even think to look since i just assumed flat + plains would start me out around 64. Weird it put me so high up.

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Oh i didn't even realize this age started me at height 90 lol, didn't even think to look since i just assumed flat + plains would start me out around 64. Weird it put me so high up.

SP btw.
Even if it HAD put you at 64, you STILL wouldn't be seeing any iron ore yet. And remember, Dense Ores only works on vanilla ores, not on mod-aded ones. Which means it won't work on Copper or Tin. And in fact, you'll see instances where the iron will be replacing them. So expect piles of Iron. Then, as you get low enough, an abnormally large amount of Gold and Diamonds, although you won't likely see much extra diamonds with a quarry that small.

What you want to do is drop down to diamond level and put in a tunnel bore, either RP2 frames or Steve's Carts. That'll get you your diamonds, gold, and redstone.
 
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Will copper and tin still spawn if i have dense ores on and just not benefit from the bonus? or will i not see them at all. Also will they spawn in a normal age without dense ores? Or can I just not mine them in mystcraft period?
 

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And in fact, you'll see instances where the iron will be replacing them.

Was this a bug w/ mystcraft generation that was fixed a long time ago? Vanilla supposedly never overwrites anything but block ID 1 with ores.

And can't mods plug into Mystcraft now to make sure they're included in dense ores (and in 1.5.1 w/ newforge, the placable liquids?)
 

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I can confirm at DW20 pack dense ores don't work with mod ores ( copper tin quartz etc ). I don't know about the others, but I'd like to.
 

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Was this a bug w/ mystcraft generation that was fixed a long time ago? Vanilla supposedly never overwrites anything but block ID 1 with ores.

And can't mods plug into Mystcraft now to make sure they're included in dense ores (and in 1.5.1 w/ newforge, the placable liquids?)
Last I heard, the way Dense Ores does things is that it goes in and replaces any kind of areas that aren't air with vanilla ores of the appropriate height level, and that it doesn't work with mod ores.

Other mods can plug into it, but only for purposes of propagating in Ages, not in interaction with Dense Ores. And since Dense Ores replacements occur after worldgen is completed, there's a decent chance of them overwriting mod ores.
 

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Last I heard, the way Dense Ores does things is that it goes in and replaces any kind of areas that aren't air with vanilla ores of the appropriate height level, and that it doesn't work with mod ores.

I thought the behavior in question was a bug involving using a blacklist instead of a whitelist and it was corrected with the last release.
 

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Ok so i tried using a cave world terrain gen to lower my spawn level to 32 and i'm still not seeing any more ores then normal. Also i did come accross some tin and copper, then again that might be because it apparently isn't doing anything.
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I thought the behavior in question was a bug involving using a blacklist instead of a whitelist and it was corrected with the last release.
That is not my understanding of the coding, but I could be mistaken.

Ok so i tried using a cave world terrain gen to lower my spawn level to 32 and i'm still not seeing any more ores then normal. Also i did come accross some tin and copper, then again that might be because it apparently isn't doing anything. -snip img-
Okay, I think we need to talk about a concept called 'sample size'. Quite frankly, you're too impatient. You can't tell from a single screenshot if Dense Ores is working or not. It takes quite a bit of wandering around to see the effects. If you only have a single Dense Ores symbol, the difference may not be readily apparent to the naked eye. Seeing a spawn of ten ores as opposed to six ores can be difficult to discern, particularly when veins tend to grow into the cliff faces, so the large majority of the ores in the vein are hidden. Try actually looking around for more than two seconds and posting a single screenshot.

Also, I'm seeing a lot of dirt, which doesn't spawn ores. Which happens a lot in cave worlds. Scratch the surface, peel away the dirt, and you might find what you are looking for
 

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Surface when using the flat terrain modifier should be the average surface level of your chosen biome(s) if I understand it right. So a flat plains shouldn't be at 90, so maybe I understand it wrong...
 

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You're being far too optimistic. You won't see walls of diamond ore and cascades of redstone; even an increase of 100 percent would be hard to notice the difference, and I'm pretty sure that one symbol will a lot less than double your ores.
 

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I just watched CyanideEpic on TwitchTv make a dense ore world and when he got down to diamond level 12-14 a 3 high tunnel about 200M long netted him over a stack of diamonds. I would say it was working. Though what he really wanted were emeralds and he only found about 7.
 

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Will copper and tin still spawn if i have dense ores on and just not benefit from the bonus? or will i not see them at all. Also will they spawn in a normal age without dense ores? Or can I just not mine them in mystcraft period?

You will not see any mod ores that have not specifically taken advantage of the mystcraft API. At this point in time that means you will not see mod ores in a dense ore age, period.

Any game with EE3 or reliquary plus soul shards has no need of vanilla ores, so dense ores is a negative not a positive.
 

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Aw seriously? Mod ores don't get impacted by dense ores? Is this still true with the new mystcraft?
It would be great if they updated it to increase ores in general.
 

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Stop trying to get dense ores to give you what you want. Build a frame tunnelbore and filter out what you want from the obscene amount of blocks it will mine.
 

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Aw seriously? Mod ores don't get impacted by dense ores? Is this still true with the new mystcraft?
It would be great if they updated it to increase ores in general.
Why did you necro this thread? It's ragged bones will haunt us forever now, wandering the board in its eternal search for the peace of the grave.

Also, ore generation is dictated by the mod themselves, and is (iirc) only readable by forge during worldgen runtime, so having dense ores effect mod ores would require some intervention in the way forge operates, instead of just mystcraft.