Yep, I got it from Von. I was really nice of him to give them out, but I remember hearing something a "Barrel full" of something Silverwood related.
Mod Feedback [By Request] RotaryCraft Suggestions
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You should add some GT compatibility. Just try a small bit and see if you like it. GT and your mod play well together for a hard-core feel and I think there could be loads of fun interactions. Also I recommend you play GT first. If you want to try it out PM me for a good server. (He Who Shall Not Be Named Plays There)
Really? How? IIRC they have a very same feel. Of course you might dislike the realism. But it doesn't hurt to try GT.
No, I do not dislike realism.
GT is designed to slow down progression. I want to be able to progress rapidly and painlessly, with as little impact on vanilla mechanics as possible.
Okay, time for a suggestion that doesn't involve nerfing.
Here is a suggestion that will allow for the introduction of new engines without having to change the tiering system. As you all know, engines can either be renewable, in the case of the electric engines, or they can be consumable, in the case of the gasoline engine.
Well some tiers are either occupied by one or the other, so this suggestion is to give each tier it's own renewable and consumable option. My suggestion aims to fix that by giving every version it's own tier to occupy. Behold:
Renewable:
1 DC engine
2 Wind
3 Steam
*4 Bicycle Engine
5 AC electric
*6 Geothermal
7 Hydrokinetic
*8 Hydrolysis Engine
Consumable:
*2 Combustion engine
*3 Bio engine
4 Gasoline engine
*5 Flux Generator
6 Performance engine
*7 Turbo engine
8 Microturbine
9 Gas turbine
*10 Rocket engine
Now let's take a look at each new engine:
~Renewable~
T4 Bicycle Engine - Powered by player input. Converts' player energy (hunger) into shaft power.
T6 Geothermal - Produces shaft power by cooling lava. Requires water.
T8 Hydrolysis Engine - Uses a nearby van de graff to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, which it then combusts.
~Consumable~
T2 Combustion Engine - Turns furnace fuel into shaft power.
T3 Bio Engine - Turns plant matter into shaft power. Requires water.
T5 Flux Generator - Extracts the flux out of redstone and uses it to generate shaft power. Very efficient.
T7 Turbo Engine - A performance engine modified to enrich its fuel with nitro. You can synthesize nitro with nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen can be processed slowly out of soil and plant matter.
T10 Rocket Engine - Similar to the Gas turbine only it require rocket fuel. Produces a lot of heat as well as a big wall of fire behind it, which also produces a lot of heat. You do NOT want to be anywhere near this thing when it fires and cooling it will provide a large challenge if you don't have liquid nitrogen.
Here is a suggestion that will allow for the introduction of new engines without having to change the tiering system. As you all know, engines can either be renewable, in the case of the electric engines, or they can be consumable, in the case of the gasoline engine.
Well some tiers are either occupied by one or the other, so this suggestion is to give each tier it's own renewable and consumable option. My suggestion aims to fix that by giving every version it's own tier to occupy. Behold:
Renewable:
1 DC engine
2 Wind
3 Steam
*4 Bicycle Engine
5 AC electric
*6 Geothermal
7 Hydrokinetic
*8 Hydrolysis Engine
Consumable:
*2 Combustion engine
*3 Bio engine
4 Gasoline engine
*5 Flux Generator
6 Performance engine
*7 Turbo engine
8 Microturbine
9 Gas turbine
*10 Rocket engine
Now let's take a look at each new engine:
~Renewable~
T4 Bicycle Engine - Powered by player input. Converts' player energy (hunger) into shaft power.
T6 Geothermal - Produces shaft power by cooling lava. Requires water.
T8 Hydrolysis Engine - Uses a nearby van de graff to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, which it then combusts.
~Consumable~
T2 Combustion Engine - Turns furnace fuel into shaft power.
T3 Bio Engine - Turns plant matter into shaft power. Requires water.
T5 Flux Generator - Extracts the flux out of redstone and uses it to generate shaft power. Very efficient.
T7 Turbo Engine - A performance engine modified to enrich its fuel with nitro. You can synthesize nitro with nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen can be processed slowly out of soil and plant matter.
T10 Rocket Engine - Similar to the Gas turbine only it require rocket fuel. Produces a lot of heat as well as a big wall of fire behind it, which also produces a lot of heat. You do NOT want to be anywhere near this thing when it fires and cooling it will provide a large challenge if you don't have liquid nitrogen.
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This one has already been shot down because a human can only generate something like 400W at peak performance, which isn't even half the output of a DC engine.
Violates the first law of thermodynamics hard.
That would overlap with the role of the steam engine, would it not? I can't see how it would fit into the engine tiering without major rebalancing of the whole tree.
Neither of these seem realistic enough to work, to me.
I could see how this would work, however nitrous oxide (N2O) is not synthesized from oxygen and nitrogen because that takes a great deal of energy to do (getting back into those pesky laws of thermodynamics). If it were, you wouldn't need to extract it from plants or whatever, considering the atmosphere is already more than three quarters N2. It can, however, be extracted from ammonium nitrate by heating it, which happens to exist in Rotarycraft already.
Rocket fuel is a really broad term.
Real human output is about 600W at most.
Considered in the past but extremely difficult to prevent it from being easier than every other engine.
Violates the first and second laws of thermodynamics.
So a standard steam engine.
How? Burning them? Then it is another steam engine.
Unrealistic.
Nitrogen is very difficult to extract and nitrous oxide is a different chemical entirely.
Suggested some time ago and liked but far too difficult to implement.
I didn't think that one through. Maybe it could be implemented as a joke engine with power output increasing if the player has speed and/or jump boost.
Perhaps have it so that you have to manually clean out cobblestone as it piles up. That way it forces the player to have to maintain it and also explains what happens to the spent lava.
Whoops.
A standard steam engine that runs on furnace fuel rather than fire/lava underneath.
It's just an upgrade of the furnace engine.
An internal redstone clock forces the redstone to flux, extracting its stored energy as heat... Now that you mention it, that does sound really silly.
Maybe a different propellant could be used. I considered oxygen too but figured it wouldn't be powerful enough.
Okay i'll split this into chunks.
Rocket fuel production: Jet fuel is compressed and enhanced with additives and propellant. This causes a large reduction of liquid and requires a large amount of energy be put in through both the additives and shaft power.
Rocket Turbine: Creates entities that check for players up to 20 blocks away and deal damage accordingly based on distance. They will also heat up blocks this way too. On contact the entities have a plasma effect, melting blocks and instantly killing players. Each of these said entities has the mobspawner particle effect to give it a truly epic flamethrower effect.
Activation: First you put the jet fuel in and then you give yourself some nice distance and either spark, flame, or apply redstone to the engine to ignite the fuel. The reaction will go until the fuel runs out.
Cooling: You'll need a lot of liquid nitrogen to keep this thing cool. Just pipe it in from the bottom and make sure the supply keeps. Or else.
I'm with reika on this one. Gt slows progression to the point of imo losing the fun factor of technology mods. While I like the concept of gt extend progression, it makes it far to slow. Again this is all imo.
Celestialphoenix
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The mods themselves are conceptually incompatible- you simply cannot play them both in the same instance and expect them to work together without significantly compromising both designs.
Not saying Gregtech isn't worthwhile playing mind.
Screw it, I have time. I'll make a compatibility GT and RoC mod.
And what would that entail? This sounds like it would come dangerously close to breaking one of the mod's techtrees.
For the first version I think I will just do recipes to make the mods more compatible with GT machines. These do not need balance and will not break progression.
Recipes for what? If you cannot make my materials in GT machines, that is for a reason.
Yes: its your preference, and you lack interest in recognizing or accomodating other preferences. (That's your prerogative without question, but others are ethically entitled to indulge their own preferences you'll agree)