For power transportation, I totally buy into this
No good for item transportation but who cares. This falls under the "more or less plausible" category.
I'll just sweep my wormhole theory under the rug here where Reika can't see it...
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No good for item transportation but who cares. This falls under the "more or less plausible" category.
I'll just sweep my wormhole theory under the rug here where Reika can't see it...
Well, I'm currently working on the phlegmatic theorem of intercontinental dismemberment, for your information. =P
Anywhoo: is there a particle emitter machine, such as an LED display unit, a fiber-optic tree, or anything decorative and customizable that has shiny things? (Not the fireworks machine.)
If there isn't... well, you get the gist.
-Syngas
Syngas is a mixture of hydrogen, carbon monoxide, and carbon dioxide. It can be used to make ammonia, synthetic oil, and fuel. Syngas is made by reacting fossil fuels or plant matter with high-temperature steam in the presence of a catalyst. This would allow you to be flexible with your raw material sources. For example, if you didn't feel like switching your farms to make canola for more lubricant, you could gassify some coal into syngas and convert that to synthetic lubricant with the Fischer-Tropsch process. Similarly, if you want a renewable source of ammonia, you could gassify some wood, separate out the hydrogen, and react that with nitrogen in the Haber-Bosch process.
-Hydraulics
I would like to see the fluid transportation aspect to be more fleshed out. Pipes could be used to distribute hydraulic work, with pressure and flow rate being the parameters (akin to torque and angular velocity), governed by a simplified version of the Bernoulli equation. Pressure could drop over distance, depending on the roughness of the pipe wall. The maximum flow rate would be determined by the pipe diameter and the maximum pressure would be determined by the pipe material composition and thickness.
This would enable an easier division of power between machines without needing shaft busses or complex shaft splitting, but at the cost of lower efficiency due to pressure drops. Additionally, this could allow for more modular fluid transport. For example, if one needed only a small quantity of water at low pressure, a small pump and thin-walled pipes of small diameter might suffice. However, if one needed a large amount of water (say for a fusion reactor), a much larger pump (perhaps an upgradable multiblock) and thick-walled large-diameter pipes could be used.
Similarly, steam could be used as an energy transportation method with the same parameters as above, if we assume saturated steam (otherwise with superheated steam, temperature would be an additional parameter). In many industrial plants, a natural gas fired boiler is used to supply steam to the entire facility to drive components and supply process heat. The same could be applied to Rotarycraft, with a complex steam network supplying a workshop of variously sized of steam-driven turbines. These turbine would be much smaller than the massive ones in Reactorcraft.
Syngas is a mixture of hydrogen, carbon monoxide, and carbon dioxide. It can be used to make ammonia, synthetic oil, and fuel. Syngas is made by reacting fossil fuels or plant matter with high-temperature steam in the presence of a catalyst. This would allow you to be flexible with your raw material sources. For example, if you didn't feel like switching your farms to make canola for more lubricant, you could gassify some coal into syngas and convert that to synthetic lubricant with the Fischer-Tropsch process. Similarly, if you want a renewable source of ammonia, you could gassify some wood, separate out the hydrogen, and react that with nitrogen in the Haber-Bosch process.
-Hydraulics
I would like to see the fluid transportation aspect to be more fleshed out. Pipes could be used to distribute hydraulic work, with pressure and flow rate being the parameters (akin to torque and angular velocity), governed by a simplified version of the Bernoulli equation. Pressure could drop over distance, depending on the roughness of the pipe wall. The maximum flow rate would be determined by the pipe diameter and the maximum pressure would be determined by the pipe material composition and thickness.
This would enable an easier division of power between machines without needing shaft busses or complex shaft splitting, but at the cost of lower efficiency due to pressure drops. Additionally, this could allow for more modular fluid transport. For example, if one needed only a small quantity of water at low pressure, a small pump and thin-walled pipes of small diameter might suffice. However, if one needed a large amount of water (say for a fusion reactor), a much larger pump (perhaps an upgradable multiblock) and thick-walled large-diameter pipes could be used.
Similarly, steam could be used as an energy transportation method with the same parameters as above, if we assume saturated steam (otherwise with superheated steam, temperature would be an additional parameter). In many industrial plants, a natural gas fired boiler is used to supply steam to the entire facility to drive components and supply process heat. The same could be applied to Rotarycraft, with a complex steam network supplying a workshop of variously sized of steam-driven turbines. These turbine would be much smaller than the massive ones in Reactorcraft.
My FAQ addresses this (note that portals are in essence wormholes):
An issue very similar to this was fixed long ago. What version is this?
How many raw ingredients and processes are involved here? This reminds me of some of my research for obtaining materials for ReactorCraft; they would require so many new items and chemicals that they would fit better in "ChemiCraft" or something.
I actually put something exactly like this in for a couple of versions (around v14), but removed it for several reasons:
- It is ill-fitting with RotaryCraft as a whole, as it is neither rotational nor integrated into the rest of the mod
- The networking code was extremely complex and prone to errors
- The power outputs of most engines could not be handled by any but the largest pipes and pumps
- The fluid system was difficult to design in a way that was simultaneously easy to use, inexpensive, and realistic
I have been toying with pipe pressure limits for some time, actually.
These suffer from the same issues as the hydraulic system.
Also, with the advent of ElectriCraft, which fulfills the exact same role, hydraulics are somewhat redundant.
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errr hydrogen - oxigen fuel cell? for reactorcraft
of course done in a realistic way, with C+ H2O----> H2 + CO2 ( intermediate steps also produce carbon monoxide)
you could also add some form of pollution similar to radiation
Also, normally the H2 fuel needs to be refined, as it contains CO2 and CO which risk to corrupt the platinum catalyst in the low temperature cells
I feel that properly implemented, it would be quite balanced
of course done in a realistic way, with C+ H2O----> H2 + CO2 ( intermediate steps also produce carbon monoxide)
you could also add some form of pollution similar to radiation
Also, normally the H2 fuel needs to be refined, as it contains CO2 and CO which risk to corrupt the platinum catalyst in the low temperature cells
I feel that properly implemented, it would be quite balanced
Hydraulic pressure is achieved through pumps, which spin. That said, it'd probably be better to have it as it's own separate mod.
To be fair, if you explicitly support wormholes with your mods, you're fair game for wormhole-related suggestions.
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I would freaking love a ChemiCraft personally.
One of the things I miss about a good GT game is all the little "chemicals", where you can break down most resources via centrifuges or electrolyzers and whatnot. I think Reika could put a better spin on this.
* Unreleated Suggestion (ReactorCraft): A machine that can suction out a network of steam lines, emptying it of any traces of leftover steam so that I can switch between Water or Ammonia at need.
I support their use - which is of course straightforward once you have a stable one - but their creation is something else entirely.
Radiation already exists.
Fuel cells generate electricity, not shaft power.
So then elctricraft? Then again, fuel cells are not really realistic in terms of power gain but would work well for engines/generators etc for power storage.
Snip. He meant a form of pollution that was similar to radiation, not radiation itself.
The problem is, oxygen is only available with ReactorCraft installed, which is neither a prerequisite of nor related to ElectriCraft.
You just need some special crystals that are not found on this planet. How hard can it be to collect that?
.Ohh, wait -- can you can run the shaft vertically through an end portal, or twilight forest portal? Now that I think about it, you did show it running vertically through some portal, but I'm not sure if it was a horizontal crystal portal or one of the others.
This is an odd idea but I was thinking if you have heaters and put an Iron Block ontop of it you can heat it (heating it too much will make it melt) but what you can do is if you have water above it, water near it would at a certain temperature fizzle (not bubble) and make that pool of water you made into a "Hot Springs" of sorts that will cause Health Regen and Saturation (Not actual Hunger Shanks). If you heat it too hot the water will do constant damage and give Slowness.
This is not something for RotaryCraft.You just need some special crystals that are not found on this planet. How hard can it be to collect that?
That was a TF portal.
Except real hot springs do nothing helpful.
Well, they do warm you up. That can be helpful, in some circumstances. Otherwise, fully agreed.
Here's a thought for something I've always wanted to see but nobody's ever done - a linear assembly line. Currently players really only have 2 choices for multi-stage crafting: AE crafting or setting up a messy pipe (or golem) network to a bunch of different autocrafting machines. Why not create a modular conveyor-based assembly line? Modular in terms that, for a given conveyor block different RoC/ReC machines (I say plural for cases such as friction heater+furnace) could be inserted to that piece to process whatever items/fluids are sent in and then push the result down the line. Power would of course be necessary, either for individual conveyor segments or a whole-system power connection. The conveyor blocks could require a shaft power bus and engine control unit as part of the recipe (so they can be configured to process and input/output items at appropriate speeds - not configuring this could result in items being pushed out too slow/fast resulting in jams and of course, everybody's favorite, explosions!), and perhaps some sort of Automation Control Unit for the overall system.
There would still be some piping necessary for fluids and extra items added from other lines (maybe make junctions), and thermal control, but I think this could be a much cleaner and more fun solution to the multistage autocrafting problem.
There would still be some piping necessary for fluids and extra items added from other lines (maybe make junctions), and thermal control, but I think this could be a much cleaner and more fun solution to the multistage autocrafting problem.