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Reika said:
Really? The updateEntity() loop is called every tick from the main game loop, and only every 20 cycles does temperature code get called.
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So, does that mean that every 20 cycles, there is a chance that you will see a temporary spike?
 
@Reika: is it possible to put Electricraft network recursion into a separate thread? I'm investigating some lag spike issues where our server stops responding for up to 90 seconds while jvisualvm says the server thread is in electricraft.
 
keybounce said:
So, does that mean that every 20 cycles, there is a chance that you will see a temporary spike?
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As I understand it: If we use the word "ticks", and say there's 20 ticks in a cycle, then yes every 20 ticks you'll see a temporary spike, but it will be half-way through a cycle. The explosion code doesn't fire until that cycle is complete.
 
Pyure said:
Is that possible? That's terrifying and an alarmingly sensible theory.
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Reika said:
No. The two are not asynchronous.
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Well must apologize for scaring you then :p Anyway, that was highly unlikely, as I've seen multiples cases of ReC/RoC dealing perfectly with lag ( meaning : everything didn't went booom). Looks like @Reika do care about our computers =)


Reika said:
I tried that. Performance got much worse, and it led to all sorts of glitchiness.
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Well, is it really possible to multithread modded MC ? especially RoC/ReC. I remember myself having some huge issues with TickThreading back in 1.6.4 days. Boring machines didn't exactly love the whole worldgen multithreading thing.
 
Pyure said:
As I understand it: If we use the word "ticks", and say there's 20 ticks in a cycle, then yes every 20 ticks you'll see a temporary spike, but it will be half-way through a cycle. The explosion code doesn't fire until that cycle is complete.
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What's ensuring the spikes remain in the middle of the cycle? Isn't it still possible to have a spike on the 20th tick? At this point the updateTemperature will see an overheated fuel cell and detonate, won't it?
 
choco218 said:
Well, is it really possible to multithread modded MC ? especially RoC/ReC. I remember myself having some huge issues with TickThreading back in 1.6.4 days. Boring machines didn't exactly love the whole worldgen multithreading thing.
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Jvisualvm shows many threads all the time. However the majority happens in a single thread. Logistics pipes an example that puts it's network processing in a separate thread.

@Reika: Reactorcraft v6e, can't get central control to raise control rods with 16 MW of power. They dance up a down a bit but never lock in.
 
That's what I'm wondering... What prevents the temperature update check from not being the same tick as the neutron temp spike?
 
TomeWyrm said:
That's what I'm wondering... What prevents the temperature update check from not being the same tick as the neutron temp spike?
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Slow down, a neutron interaction increases the temp by 20-30C. The boiler extracts heat over 100C. Things don't melt until 1500C. That's a huge margin.

You would have to be already riding the edge of sensible configurations if a few neutrons piling in bumped you over the threshold.
 
TomeWyrm said:
Then what was pyure talking about, because I'm confused again
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This is my understanding:

Cycle start
Tick0: Add heat <---- Heat now at its highest.
Tick0: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick1: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick2: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick3: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick4: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick5: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick6: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick7: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick8: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick9: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick10: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick11: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick12: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick13: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick14: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick15: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick16: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick17: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick18: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick19: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Check for explostions
End cycle
Cycle Start
....
End cycle
 
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Demosthenex said:
@Reika: Reactorcraft v6e, can't get central control to raise control rods with 16 MW of power. They dance up a down a bit but never lock in.
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Turn on "clientside power transfer" in the RC config and see if that fixes it.

Pyure said:
This is my understanding:

Cycle start
Tick0: Add heat <---- Heat now at its highest.
Tick0: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick1: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick2: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick3: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick4: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick5: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick6: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick7: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick8: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick9: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick10: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick11: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick12: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick13: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick14: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick15: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick16: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick17: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick18: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Tick19: subtract heat (create steam too if necessary)
Check for explostions
End cycle
Cycle Start
....
End cycle
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Not quite.

Heat is only subtracted if steam is created or conducted away. The former runs every tick and the latter every 20.

choco218 said:
Well, is it really possible to multithread modded MC ? especially RoC/ReC. I remember myself having some huge issues with TickThreading back in 1.6.4 days. Boring machines didn't exactly love the whole worldgen multithreading thing.
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Unless you like corruption and "this will cause weird chunk breakages" spam, you absolutely cannot multithread worldgen.
 
Reika said:
Heat is only subtracted if steam is created or conducted away.
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I knew this but didn't want to go into that much detail to answer the question.

The point being made was that yes there's a point where the heat spikes, but the explosion-check doesn't happen there. The explosion-check always happens after any valid heat-subtractions happen. Therefore the explosions are driven by a sort of "effective" temperature. The bounciness of the temperature due to the add/subtract mechanics isn't relevant.
 
I was wondering if it would be possible to add a config option to make bedrock tools be breakable. Like have 4000 durability?
 
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