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Because Cobalt is faster.
If my calculations are correct, a full worn down Ardite only pick will have a +48 speed bonus. Because of stonebound VI
Because Cobalt is faster.
You can always add an ardite binding or handle to get Stonebound III, and you could also make the 3rd part paper (or thaumium, I've heard?) to put more redstone on it. The resulting combo of cobalt head plus Stonebound III plus 4 modifiers with plenty of redstone would be way faster than a full ardite pick.
The chunk loader suggest will not work for vanilla spawners which require a player to be within 16 blocks.
There really is no way outside of AFKing near a vanilla spawner to keep it running.
Other spawer systems like MFR's and Soulshards's have options to work while the player is not around. Those would only need a chunkloader to keep running.
But there is even a snag on that. with no player within 128 blocks hostel mods auto despawn. There is ways around this too but require the chunk to be loaded and no other players to be in the dimention at the time. Or a system that kills mobs before they can despawn IE within a tick of spawning.
The pick you are describing has 1039 dura (tested)
Cobalt Head: + 11 speed
Ardite Bind: Maximum: + 10.39 speed
Thaumium rod: + 1 rod
Redstone (max 6 mods): +18 speed
Total: 39.39 speed
A full Ardite pick has a theoretical +48 bonus. 56, factoring in Ardite's base speed. Then don't forget, redstone is not included yet.
Unless Ardite has a bonus cap, then I'm wrong.
EDIT: It actually givesa +0.042 per block broken, so +50.4 from stonebound.
I was just coming back to correct that, having messed around in creative
I originally thought 1 ardite part gave full Stonebound III, which might have just been in an earlier version, and doesn't appear to be the case now. I tested the following pickaxes using Immibis block breakers:
All ardite, 2 redstone and ball of moss, 1200 durability, mining speed 16.
At durability 581: speed 24.25
Cobalt head, paper binding and ardite handle, 3 redstone and ball of moss, 1600 durability and mining speed 24.
At durability 755: speed 26.12
I'm smashing the picks up some more to get some numbers at lower durability.
At these levels the 2 pickaxes are at about the same relative durability. Note that while the ardite pick does catch up to the cobalt pick, the cobalt pick's average speed is probably higher, given that it is still in the lead past half way durability. Of course, apparently using nearly all of the pick then using an EU upgrade on it gives a full Stonebound bonus more or less permanently, so with that upgrade the ardite pick would win easily.
EDIT: I got the ardite pickaxe down to 41 durability and it's at 26.52 speed, meanwhile at 295 durability the cobalt pickaxe is at 26.65 speed, so the extra Stonebound is ultimately not really good enough to counter the additional redstone and cobalt head speed unless the ardite pick gains more from those 40 blocks than the cobalt would gain from 294.
Yeah I have a chunkloader running and it wont work. Which makes sense, because if you used a loader in an area you were quarrying for instance, and it had a spawner near you, it would just spawn over and over non stop, with nothing to kill off the mobs.
I was just coming back to correct that, having messed around in creative
I originally thought 1 ardite part gave full Stonebound III, which might have just been in an earlier version, and doesn't appear to be the case now. I tested the following pickaxes using Immibis block breakers:
All ardite, 2 redstone and ball of moss, 1200 durability, mining speed 16.
At durability 581: speed 24.25
Cobalt head, paper binding and ardite handle, 3 redstone and ball of moss, 1600 durability and mining speed 24.
At durability 755: speed 26.12
I'm smashing the picks up some more to get some numbers at lower durability.
At these levels the 2 pickaxes are at about the same relative durability. Note that while the ardite pick does catch up to the cobalt pick, the cobalt pick's average speed is probably higher, given that it is still in the lead past half way durability. Of course, apparently using nearly all of the pick then using an EU upgrade on it gives a full Stonebound bonus more or less permanently, so with that upgrade the ardite pick would win easily.
I just broke 1200 blocks of cobble using a full Ardite pick.
Bonus is 10.65, tops (0 durability). Disappointing.
I just added my results to my post as well. I wonder about an ardite pick with a paper/thaumium binding though...
EDIT: Just made a ardite pick with paper binding, it has 1200 durability and with 3 levels of redstone plus moss is up to 20 speed, with a 0.025 bonus per block broken. By the way, I'm hoping my version of TiC (which is a little out of date) has the same mechanics...
Bingo. That would the fastest pick. Just calculated. The difference between it and cobalt + 2 mods is like 0.25 or something tho.
EDIT: That pick won't surpass the cobalt one. It's gonna be like 25.5 speed.
Is speed really all that important? After a certain point, it just becomes more of a "Oh shit I just punched a hole in my house for the 1000th time with the vajra" kind of liability than a bonus.
Is speed really all that important? After a certain point, it just becomes more of a "Oh shit I just punched a hole in my house for the 1000th time with the vajra" kind of liability than a bonus.
LOL yeah Super fast mining can be a draw back. I remember on RR I made the most pimp shovel around (just becuase) and with my beacon I would wreck the ground. Want to remove a block a dirt? NOPE huge crater.
Just fully broke both the ardite with paper binding pick and the original cobalt/paper/ardite pick and the tool forge is reporting 26.91 for the cobalt and 27.1 for the ardite's speed. So the ardite pick is just slightly faster when used with the EU upgrade trick.
@SpitefulFox This is more FOR SCIENCE! than anything practical. The speed isn't really much faster after this tweaking anyway, given that speed has diminishing returns for saving time.
@ Anathemia Bone meal does that, and so does Forestry's fertilizer (the blue one). I can't seem to apply IC2 or MFR fertilizer manually to plants (I assume IC2 fertilizer is for crops, and MFR's for the planter).
Imagine what the crater would be like if you used an excavator
None of them- Vanilla started doing that with bonemeal in 1.5.
There is every chance I am completly wrong (Which is often the case), but I thought that turtles were considered player entities, or somehting like that which allows them to get the rare drops when mob farming with them? Am I barking up the wrong tree? Would you be able to chunk load it and dump a turtle down?
Infallible
They are player entities in respect to mob drops yes, but player entity also insinuates that they chunk-load, which they don't without a module to do so
They also don't activate spawners in the way players do, so in this case they aren't the solution