[1.7.10][LISTED] InfiTech 2 Modpack v3.2.21 [HQM][GregTech balanced hard-mode modpack]

[Alven4]

Uhm... reading about crops and how powerful they can be - 'if' you know how to do them - a question:
- As someone who only knows the agricraft crossbreeding so far, and finding only guides about IC2 crops from like 3 years ago, is it good to get into crops early on?
Or is it better as "newbie" to IC2 crops and gregtech to just focus on finding veins to mine and not mess around with weeds, the stats of the IC2 crops and so on?


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And any hint for finding new veins?
I tried one for gregtech I found which said "dig down a 2x2 staircase every 3 chunk" but I'm at my 5th staircase now and still only found some "small" ores and yellorite, no veins :/

(counting the 3 chunks from the one vein I found right under my base)

Find extreme hills/tropical rainforest biome with huge hills and walk around and sometimes right click on stone with GT hammer or look into caves. It will tell you when it detects any ore. This way you can find tetrahedrite and cassiterite.
For other ores look into nether. In nether it is extremely easy to find ores because it is huge cave system. Check book about ore generation to see at what Y does the vein spawn.

 

[asb3pe]

How do I pump oil geysers in oceans now? I knew how to use the BC Pump but it's been disabled. Does the GT Pump block work the same way? Can I place it atop the geyser, supply it with mining pipe and power, and just collect the oil? Or is it gonna be more "difficult" than the BC Pump used to be, will it suck up the ocean water at the same time?

I think I read in the wiki that the GT Pump will pump a 21x21x21 area (for LV Pump)? That leads me to believe it's gonna grab water blocks right along with the oil blocks. If so, I know I can use sand or gravel to "block in" the oil geyser, and "lock out" any water. I used to pump oil that way until I realized the BC Pump was "smart" and I didn't have to worry about water getting in - it would only pump the oil which was very nice and very easy, but that's also why Jason McRay took our little toy away from us. LOL

For anyone who has used the GT Pump to pump ocean oil field geysers, just give a quick summary of the process please, thx.

 

[asb3pe]

Oh one other thing, I'm stuck at Stainless Steel quest, because I can't find Magnanese. I'm furiously digging around my base at elevation 25 to find a vein but so far no luck. I read in the wiki that Tantalite (sp?) can be centrifuged to get some Mang, and from previous play-thru I think I recall that you get Tantalite nuggets by centrifuging lava, is that correct? And does that method still work? As per my previous post, I am unsure at the moment how to pump fluids now that my beloved BC Pump has been disabled. So I have the same question about how to pump lava as I do about pumping oil. I think I need to start centrifuing lava to get my Mang, I could be digging in vain (for a vein) for a long long time. LOL

Edit: Nope, I'm wrong, when you centrifuge lava you get "Tantalum" nuggets, which looks and sounds like "Tantalite" but they don't seem to be related?

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

Oh one other thing, I'm stuck at Stainless Steel quest, because I can't find Magnanese. I'm furiously digging around my base at elevation 25 to find a vein but so far no luck. I read in the wiki that Tantalite (sp?) can be centrifuged to get some Mang, and from previous play-thru I think I recall that you get Tantalite nuggets by centrifuging lava, is that correct? And does that method still work? As per my previous post, I am unsure at the moment how to pump fluids now that my beloved BC Pump has been disabled. So I have the same question about how to pump lava as I do about pumping oil. I think I need to start centrifuing lava to get my Mang, I could be digging in vain (for a vein) for a long long time. LOL

Edit: Nope, I'm wrong, when you centrifuge lava you get "Tantalum" nuggets, which looks and sounds like "Tantalite" but they don't seem to be related?

Tantalite, is the ore, Tantalum is the pure metal, and can't be used to get Manganese.
Pumping liquids, get a GT pump to collect them...
You'll need a tantalite vein sooner or later but if you're impatient for just a little manganese it might be faster to go adventuring collecting chests....

 

[Jason McRay]

How do I pump oil geysers in oceans now? I knew how to use the BC Pump but it's been disabled. Does the GT Pump block work the same way? Can I place it atop the geyser, supply it with mining pipe and power, and just collect the oil? Or is it gonna be more "difficult" than the BC Pump used to be, will it suck up the ocean water at the same time?

I think I read in the wiki that the GT Pump will pump a 21x21x21 area (for LV Pump)? That leads me to believe it's gonna grab water blocks right along with the oil blocks. If so, I know I can use sand or gravel to "block in" the oil geyser, and "lock out" any water. I used to pump oil that way until I realized the BC Pump was "smart" and I didn't have to worry about water getting in - it would only pump the oil which was very nice and very easy, but that's also why Jason McRay took our little toy away from us. LOL

For anyone who has used the GT Pump to pump ocean oil field geysers, just give a quick summary of the process please, thx.

GT Pumps works exactly the same as BC Pump (they are also less lagy). As for the area it pumps... It remembers what it is pumping, so it will not grab water.

Oh one other thing, I'm stuck at Stainless Steel quest, because I can't find Magnanese. I'm furiously digging around my base at elevation 25 to find a vein but so far no luck. I read in the wiki that Tantalite (sp?) can be centrifuged to get some Mang, and from previous play-thru I think I recall that you get Tantalite nuggets by centrifuging lava, is that correct? And does that method still work? As per my previous post, I am unsure at the moment how to pump fluids now that my beloved BC Pump has been disabled. So I have the same question about how to pump lava as I do about pumping oil. I think I need to start centrifuing lava to get my Mang, I could be digging in vain (for a vein) for a long long time. LOL

Edit: Nope, I'm wrong, when you centrifuge lava you get "Tantalum" nuggets, which looks and sounds like "Tantalite" but they don't seem to be related?

Finding Manganese can be a problem (same as the early tin problem).
Tantalum is byproduct of Tantalite, so you cannot make Tantalite from Tantalum. You need to search for vein. Or you can break down Tungsten/Tungstate/Scheelite ore in Universal Macerator (but you need to have already some Stainless Steel)

 

[asb3pe]

You'll need a tantalite vein sooner or later but if you're impatient for just a little manganese it might be faster to go adventuring collecting chests....

That's a terrific idea, thanks for the reminder. I recently found 2 locations with abandoned mineshafts, waypointed them, moved on and promptly forgot about all the good stuff that might be in the chests there.

GT Pumps works exactly the same as BC Pump (they are also less lagy). As for the area it pumps... It remembers what it is pumping, so it will not grab water.

That is so awesome I can't even begin to tell you. haha I had a fear of having to separate fluids somehow without being able to use the "easy button" Liquid Router block from MFR.

Finding Manganese can be a problem (same as the early tin problem).
Tantalum is byproduct of Tantalite, so you cannot make Tantalite from Tantalum. You need to search for vein. Or you can break down Tungsten/Tungstate/Scheelite ore in Universal Macerator (but you need to have already some Stainless Steel)

Hmmm, sounds too recursive. Plus I'm still in LV era and a long way from powering a Universal Macerator, but it's fine, If Sven's tip doesn't work then I'll just keep digging in the middle of the 20-30 elevation for a Grossular/Spessartine vein, I know it's tough as tin, but at least now I know there isn't an easier way or an ore I forgot about. I haven't found Scheelite yet either obv, but I'll worry about that when I need to. I suppose this is the price our server is gonna pay for having a tin vein 10 blocks south of our little starting village, a tin vein so huge that even with 4 players on the server we haven't run out of it yet. That's called a good starting seed. *grin*

 

[targetingyou78]

I have a quick question, I'm about to make a crop-matron. I've been told multiple times that it is locked behind HV technology, but after actually looking at it's recipe, it is just a machine casing, chest two circuit, two cells and 2 crops and it takes a max of 32 EU/t. Is this the correct machine or is there another I'm missing?

 

[SolManX]

That's a terrific idea, thanks for the reminder. I recently found 2 locations with abandoned mineshafts, waypointed them, moved on and promptly forgot about all the good stuff that might be in the chests there.

Look out for the Greatwood trees with cobwebs - I found most of my starting manganese under the spider spawners.

 

[Jason McRay]

I have a quick question, I'm about to make a crop-matron. I've been told multiple times that it is locked behind HV technology, but after actually looking at it's recipe, it is just a machine casing, chest two circuit, two cells and 2 crops and it takes a max of 32 EU/t. Is this the correct machine or is there another I'm missing?

You might be confusing it with Crop-Harvester, that one is locked behind HV

 

[MarcNemesis]

How do I pump oil geysers in oceans now? I knew how to use the BC Pump but it's been disabled. Does the GT Pump block work the same way? Can I place it atop the geyser, supply it with mining pipe and power, and just collect the oil? Or is it gonna be more "difficult" than the BC Pump used to be, will it suck up the ocean water at the same time?

I think I read in the wiki that the GT Pump will pump a 21x21x21 area (for LV Pump)? That leads me to believe it's gonna grab water blocks right along with the oil blocks. If so, I know I can use sand or gravel to "block in" the oil geyser, and "lock out" any water. I used to pump oil that way until I realized the BC Pump was "smart" and I didn't have to worry about water getting in - it would only pump the oil which was very nice and very easy, but that's also why Jason McRay took our little toy away from us. LOL

For anyone who has used the GT Pump to pump ocean oil field geysers, just give a quick summary of the process please, thx.

GT Pump work pretty much the same way. You won't have to worry about water if it start off with Oil.

Higher tier pump will also work faster and larger (assuming you would be pumping water or Lava for example.)

 

[MarcNemesis]

You might be confusing it with Crop-Harvester, that one is locked behind HV

That would be my fault. I was sure Crop-Matron was gated behind HV. My apologies. I've edited my previous post where i would wrongly hint to a crop-matron using HV-voltage.

 

[asb3pe]

Look out for the Greatwood trees with cobwebs - I found most of my starting manganese under the spider spawners.

I'll tell this story because it's funny (I think). I came across one of those chests in early game, but it wasn't totally early-game because I already had my trusty level 3 Cobalt pickaxe and I thought to myself "No problem here". Wrong. The spawner clearly was not budging. Thankfully, it also wasn't spawning spiders, but I didn't have time to dilly-dally in the situation. Beads of sweat begin to form on the old forehead, and with the spawner blocking the chest from opening and being unable to break the spawner, I quickly arrived at the decision to put the dirt and log back in place (OCD people should never play Minecraft, by the way LOL), and moved on with my exploring, wishing I knew what was inside that chest.

It was only many days later, when I came across a cobweb tree that somebody else had dug under and cleaned it out that I realized... you dimwit, all you had to do was break the chest, not the spawner. Doh! I know you probably got the punchline to my story as soon as you started reading it, but for me it's a funny story that shows how blind I can be sometimes, and how I can struggle with stuff that other people barely even shrug at. LOL

 

[asb3pe]

GT Pump work pretty much the same way. You won't have to worry about water if it start off with Oil.

Higher tier pump will also work faster and larger (assuming you would be pumping water or Lava for example.)

When they say "no lag", what happens at the outer limits of the pump? Say I pump a lava ocean with an LV pump, will there be a 21-block-high sheer vertical face of lava when the pump is finished? Are the blocks removed and replaced with air, and nothing flows into the empty space? That would be kind of odd-looking. However, if it removes lava and the outer edge flows into the now-empty blocks, isn't that where the lag comes from with other pumps?

 

[MarcNemesis]

When they say "no lag", what happens at the outer limits of the pump? Say I pump a lava ocean with an LV pump, will there be a 21-block-high sheer vertical face of lava when the pump is finished? Are the blocks removed and replaced with air, and nothing flows into the empty space? That would be kind of odd-looking. However, if it removes lava and the outer edge flows into the now-empty blocks, isn't that where the lag comes from with other pumps?

That's exactly what happens. It remove source block and replace them with air block preventing flowing liquid. Take note i have never tested what happen if a block update occure next to such a wall...hmm! Guess what i'm about to do now o.-

Edit: So after testing it out, if one of the wall block get a block update, then it will start flowing. Of course, if you'd prefer to replace source block with stone, there's always the Ender-Thermic Pump. But you'll have to feed it RF instead of EU.

 

[targetingyou78]

Thanks for the updates. So is the difference that the crop-matron water and fertalizes the crops where as you need a crop-harvester to harvest them?

 

[asb3pe]

That's exactly what happens. It remove source block and replace them with air block preventing flowing liquid. Take note i have never tested what happen if a block update occure next to such a wall...hmm! Guess what i'm about to do now o.-

Edit: So after testing it out, if one of the wall block get a block update, then it will start flowing. Of course, if you'd prefer to replace source block with stone, there's always the Ender-Thermic Pump. But you'll have to feed it RF instead of EU.

Thanks for test report, because my idea of building a wall to hold the lava back ("just in case") would have certainly ended in block update disaster. I'm imagining my gravestone buried under a 21-block-tall wall of lava that "tipped over" right on top of me. Ugly, ugly ugly thoughts. Go away! Bad! LOL

Thanks for the updates. So is the difference that the crop-matron water and fertalizes the crops where as you need a crop-harvester to harvest them?

Having avoided crops in the quest book so far, and having farmed all my massive fields of wheat by hand since beginning the pack... I eagerly look forward to someone answering this one too. Crop automation would be sweet, which clearly means it'll be out of reach for us mere mortals. haha

 

[MarcNemesis]

Thanks for the updates. So is the difference that the crop-matron water and fertalizes the crops where as you need a crop-harvester to harvest them?

Yes that's how it work.

Crop-Matron is used to hydrate & Fertilize crops (using water & Fertilizer) in a diameter of 9x9. ; 1m above and below it.
Crop-Harvester harvest crop (if used in conjunction with a Cropnalyzer, it will only harvest fully matured crop. I.E: Stickreed at last stage instead of reed stage) in a diameter of 11x11. ; 1m above and below it.

 

[targetingyou78]

Is there a place I can get a list of bees in the pack. I am trying to setup rows for each types. Like Common -- Meadows Forest Common Cultivated. etc I have found quite a few websites but none of them have the current bee in my inventory. Unusual Bee (Not sure if they are old or just don't have all the bee mods in this pack)

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

Is there a place I can get a list of bees in the pack. I am trying to setup rows for each types. Like Common -- Meadows Forest Common Cultivated. etc I have found quite a few websites but none of them have the current bee in my inventory. Unusual Bee (Not sure if they are old or just don't have all the bee mods in this pack)

Can't you just look through NEI for the different breeds?

 

[Celestialphoenix]

Is there a place I can get a list of bees in the pack. I am trying to setup rows for each types. Like Common -- Meadows Forest Common Cultivated. etc I have found quite a few websites but none of them have the current bee in my inventory. Unusual Bee (Not sure if they are old or just don't have all the bee mods in this pack)

I think this pack may have a few custom bees added- theres a couple I've never seen before (though unusual might be one of the magic bees). Either way you may find this useful: https://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/244516-beebetteratbees

For those who've never seen Bee Better at Bees- it puts this into NEI

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