wither skeletons

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Demon36

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Best way to get there heads? .-.
I dont have a portal gun, so i cant move a spawner and dont know where to look for a dungeon chest.
 

Mash

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Wither skeletons spawn in the Nether near Nether Fortresses. Do they have spawners? I wasn't aware that they did.
 

Demon36

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Just you and them, in a nether fortress, naked, with one soul shard and a stone sword.

You'll show them who is boss.
I cant do that, as soul shards with wither skeles dont give rare drops (according to the wiki)

my pack is ultimate. I might try that.

And yea, im just going to ignore mash's reply.
 

Mash

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I cant do that, as soul shards with wither skeles dont give rare drops (according to the wiki)

my pack is ultimate. I might try that.

And yea, im just going to ignore mash's reply.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

I didn't realize you had a soul shard of one. Would have been nice to include that in your post somewhere. I assumed you were referring to an alternative spawning mechanic that I wasn't aware of, since I haven't kept track of vanilla lately.

A soul shard can drop their heads if you kill them yourself.(Or at least, they could as of... a month ago.) I don't know if there's a way to expedite the process, but if you have them fall from a height large enough to drop them to one health, you can simply punch them to death from a safe location.
 

Juanitierno

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Cheating or not cheating?

If you dont mind a cheating way make soulshards of 1 kill each and combine them in an anvil for more than what you inputted.

Still getting a basic lvl 1 spawner with a vile sword and soul stealer should take you about 13 wither skeleton kills to reach 65 kills and start producing your own skeletons.

A mob trap farm with a lvl 5 wither shard would be the best for getting their heads.
 

Ako_the_Builder

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just checked my wither spawner set up gives heads - they drop to half a heart and thaumcraft visor'd iron golems finish them, ultimate pack.
 

Demon36

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just checked my wither spawner set up gives heads - they drop to half a heart and thaumcraft visor'd iron golems finish them, ultimate pack.
Weird.
The wiki says ones froms from a soul cage dont give rare drops.

EDIT:
Sorry for being rude mash, thought you were doing some weird way of trolling.
 

Phantom27

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I'm not sure if Ultimate has a newer version of Soul Shards than the DW20 pack, but I can verify that you can indeed get rare drops in the DW20 pack.

As far as I know, the change to make it so that you can't get rare drops from mobs spawned using a Soul Shard spawner was to come in the updated version of the mod, but that hasn't happened yet, as the mod hasn't been updated in a while.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

I didn't realize you had a soul shard of one. Would have been nice to include that in your post somewhere. I assumed you were referring to an alternative spawning mechanic that I wasn't aware of, since I haven't kept track of vanilla lately.

If you move a vanilla skeleton spawner to the nether using a portal/gravity gun, it can spawn wither skeletons as well.
 

KhrFreak

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I'm pretty sure i heard somewhere that turtle kills count as player kills, thus the Xp you get and you only get rare drops from player kills I THINK
 

Trunks9809

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Tested on Wither Skeletons, can confirm that player and turtle kills from a shard give heads. I'd test other methods (I was going to replace my turtle army with MFR grinders) but my world is incredibly laggy atm... Might throw up a test world still.
 

Emy

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MFR grinders are generally playerlike (but don't act as players in the way that turtles do). However, they didn't support weighted drops until MFR 2.4.

As a consequence, stuff like Wither Skulls were only added to their drop tables in 2.4 (meaning Minecraft 1.5.1)
 

Trunks9809

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So, I did some testing - using skeleton spawners in the nether (for withers) vs soulshard wither skeleton T5, in 1.5.1:

Regular Skeleton Spawner, killed by regular iron golems: Coal, bones
Regular Skeleton Spawner, killed by MFR Grinder: Coal, bones, wither skeleton head
Regular Skeleton Spawner, killed by me: Coal, bones, stone sword, wither skeleton head, minium shard

Soulshard Wither Skeleton T5, killed by regular iron golems: Coal, bones
Soulshard Wither Skeleton T5, killed by MFR Grinder: Coal, bones, wither skeleton head
Soulshard Wither Skeleton T5, killed by me: Coal, bones, wither skeleton head, stone sword, minium shard

For both the grinders and kills by me from the regular spawner, I also goth various bows, enchanted bows, arrows and random bits of enchanted armour from the normal skeletons mixed in. I tried putting visors on the iron golems, but it crashed my server, so I wasn't able to test those.

Using version 2.5.3B1 of MFR, 1.27 of SoulShards and 3.0.4c of Thaumcraft.