Why isn't Factorization compared to TE or IC2?

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Zjarek_S

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What the heck is the Leyden Jar about? o_O


Basically you use it if you want to show your friends that you can generate a lot of charge. It is a battery which needs really large power input to charge and is lossy but is great for creative testing and more compact and cheaper storage for night.
 

apemanzilla

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Personally, I'm a fan of FZ utilization. Once a system for automation is set up properly, time involvement instantly becomes moot, barring running low and shortcutting some supplies accordingly. Pain in the tail or not, mixing in AE, Routers, and now Logi Pipes again, the FZ system is good stuff. It's fine solo, but like any mod in the pack, cherry pick for the features you want. Routers accomplish some things NO OTHER MOD CAN DO and should not be discounted. Wrath lamps are just convenience. :)

And with all this talk of FZ, I have to ask.

What the heck is the Leyden Jar about? o_O

Admittedly, I have been avoiding googling it. :p
The Leyden jar stores charge, but up to 150 of it.
 

SpitefulFox

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Barrels are significantly more useful now that DSUs require an Unattuned Tesseract to craft in default Unleashed.
 

Zjarek_S

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Barrels are significantly more useful now that DSUs require an Unattuned Tesseract to craft in default Unleashed.

DSU is my least favorite item in MFR. The biggest problem is that is discourages you from turning off your systems when they are not in use, which feels weird in combination with just how easy MFR machines are to control. Realistically, what will you ever do with 100 000 seeds?
 

AlanEsh

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and once you hit 500k. make seedoil and fill a max sized railcraft tank with it to show off to your friends.
Make sure to use many glass tank blocks, and add purple dye to the oil. Place lights behind the tank. Profit.
 

Wekmor

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To the people telling how awesome FZ steam is early game:

12 mirrors (which is a good number eraly on) will produce enough steam to power a commercial steam engine at 1.9-2.0 mj/t.
A 1 LP boiler (solid fueled, but shouldn't make a difference) will produce enough steam for 2.1 mj/t in said engine.
 

DoctorOr

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To the people telling how awesome FZ steam is early game:

12 mirrors (which is a good number eraly on) will produce enough steam to power a commercial steam engine at 1.9-2.0 mj/t.
A 1 LP boiler (solid fueled, but shouldn't make a difference) will produce enough steam for 2.1 mj/t in said engine.

Yes, but 12 mirrors will also power the industrial steam engine at 8MJ.

And 4 mirrors will power your 2MJ engine.
 

Wekmor

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So if 12 mirrors power a industrial one at 8mj, why do they not power a commercial one at 4 mj?
 

Saice

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Yeah I was poking FZ solar as a possable power system by feeding the steam into industrials or AS turbines.

Saddly I did not get vary far with that. I sould have another look at it.
 

Wekmor

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They do. I can't imagine why you'd think they don't. Unless you tested at night or in rain.

I built it in a creative world. my charge meter thing says 12 mirrors on the boiler. So no blocked mirrors. Daytime, no rain.
 

KirinDave

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They do. I can't imagine why you'd think they don't. Unless you tested at night or in rain.


Did this change recently in Factorization? I thought that each mirror output 1 mb steam per tick and to power an industrial steam engine you need 40 steam/tick.
 

AlanEsh

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Did this change recently in Factorization? I thought that each mirror output 1 mb steam per tick and to power an industrial steam engine you need 40 steam/tick.
I've set this up in unleashed with 10 mirrors for just under 2mj output. I would like to see a screen grab of a setup providing 4 or 8.
 

cynric

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Did this change recently in Factorization? I thought that each mirror output 1 mb steam per tick and to power an industrial steam engine you need 40 steam/tick.

Something has changed. It used to be enough steam for 0,2 MJ/t per mirror, however now I need 13 mirrors to get 2MJ/t from my hobbyist engine, 12 are not enough. So either the steam boilers got nerfed or something else is going on.
 
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