What will 1.7 look like without Binnie's Mods (ExtraBees) ?

[MigukNamja]

IMHO, 1.5.2 was the golden age of bees. Binnie's Mods was fully supported, Forestry and Magic Bees were awesome (and still are, IMHO), and life was good. In the bee universe, there were no major bugs I was aware of and you could get nearly anything and everything - including some very useful effects - from bees.

Around the time 1.6.4 and Forge for 1.6.4 came out, Binnie took a leave. Bugs didn't get fixed and APIs didn't get updated. Some resources like Uranium are no longer obtainable by bees. Also, many people reported world-corrupting bugs due to ExtraBees and Binnie'sMods is not a state to be in any FTB 1.6.4 modpack. Sad, but the right decision. But, one can still manually add ExtraBees and most things still work.

In 1.7, ExtraBees will likely be gone entirely and I don't know if there is a suitable replacement, whether bee-related or something-else related.

Rainbow Forest seems similar - you get resources from trees. But, it lacks the depth of bee breeding and it has major balance issues.

Are there any other mods out there that offer something similar to what bees do, i.e. linear, long-term investment for similar linear, long-term rewards ? Or, better yet, anyone have word on whether Binnie is returning or whether the keys to the ExtraBees / ExtraTrees code is being handed over to someone else ?

UPDATE:

It looks like Gendustry might make a suitable replacement. Any have experience with this mod ?

 

[MigukNamja]

Alright, I gotta try Gendustry. Just this 1 feature alone from the Genetic Sampler makes it invaluable:

• Takes genetic sample from Bees, Trees or Butterflies

I like breeding trees and all, but trying to get a 5th or 6th trait (like a fruit) onto a maxed-out sapling and not degrading the other maxed-out traits is an exercise in patience.

 

[Pokefenn]

Machines can be replaced by gendustry, if Forestry does survive to 1.6 and we are missing alot of important bees, I would look into doing a basic mod
If forestry doesnt get updated, i still have my plan for a "replacement" for bees

 

[Mevansuto]

Binnie is on hiatus. He'll be back any day now. Or at least, that's what I like to believe. Fingers crossed, eh?

 

[MigukNamja]

Machines can be replaced by gendustry, if Forestry does survive to 1.6 and we are missing alot of important bees, I would look into doing a basic mod
If forestry doesnt get updated, i still have my plan for a "replacement" for bees

You have a great point. Many of the bees used to make basic resources like iron, copper, gold, diamond, redstone, glowstone, certus, nether quartz, etc.,. are in Extra Bees. 'll have to do a test world without ExtraBees, but with:

Forestry
MagicBees
Gendustry

...to find out.

 

[Pokefenn]

You have a great point. Many of the bees used to make basic resources like iron, copper, gold, diamond, redstone, glowstone, certus, nether quartz, etc.,. are in Extra Bees. 'll have to do a test world without ExtraBees, but with:

Forestry
MagicBees
Gendustry

...to find out.

Glowstone can be created by demonic forestry bees.
N Quartz can be created by a few bees which create curious combs.

 

[MigukNamja]

Ah, right. I forgot Demonic also create Glowstone.

There are also the MagicBees' Metallic Branch and Gem Branch that creates nuggets of the varying metals and shards of the varying gems, including diamond.

So, without ExtraBees, it doesn't look like there's too many resources missing. This is a good thing ;-)

 

[Bagman817]

First Alblaka, then Eloraam, now Binnie. Look, I'm not saying it's aliens, but...

 

[MigukNamja]

...it's Endermen !!!

*looks over shoulder*

 

[Mevansuto]

...it's Endermen !!!

*looks over shoulder*

Don't look

 

[VapourDrive]

The minecraft modding community is interesting because of how dynamic it truly is, nothing has or ever will stay the same. No modder is under contract to make a mod or update a mod, it is both the beauty and horror of modded MC , hopefully binnie decides to re-show himself, fingers crossed here too

 

[SynfulChaot]

I must be in the minority in that I'm missing ExtraTrees more than ExtraBees. I just like all the pretty woods. >.<

I actually dropped bees from my current modpack for now, replacing it with Magical Crops. It may not get all of what bees can do, but it's different and new and maybe with a bit more support it can be expanded to cover the same amount of resources.

 

[hiroshi42]

Oooh, Gendustry does look wonderful. I too like bees especially binnie's and the machines are a godsend. Sad to see Binnie's stuff get left behind, but it is understandable. But gendustry... Mmmm mutation machines without the worry of over applying mutagenic stuff because there are 17 conflicting sources of info... and tree stuff... and .. Butterflies? really? Well to each their own. But seriously, I am going to have to play with this later.

as a side question does anyone know what issues/interactions have been causing the world ending stuff? Barrels were mentioned but what kind and in what capacity? (my google fu is lacking)

Edit: And magical crops looks nice too. I will have to play with that as well. Mmmm renewable resources....

 

[Yusunoha]

I wouldn't mind at all if mod developers decided it's time to move on and leave the modding community, however I would like them to announce this to the rest of the community, either through a topic, post or just a simple tweet, and allow others to take the project over...

I hope Binnie's mods makes a return, but to be honest, without Binnie's mods it gives other mod developers the chance to step up their game.

 

[l3lackCalamity]

Machines can be replaced by gendustry, if Forestry does survive to 1.6 and we are missing alot of important bees, I would look into doing a basic mod
If forestry doesnt get updated, i still have my plan for a "replacement" for bees

I wouldn't worry about forestry, or any or the core buildcraft mods. Covert has already started implementing changes into more recent builds so they can more easily transition to 1.7. Luckily for us he has strong motivation to ensure everything updates as smooth as possible; he'd like his lets play world, the dark tower, to make the transition.

 

[Pokefenn]

I wouldn't worry about forestry, or any or the core buildcraft mods. Covert has already started implementing changes into more recent builds so they can more easily transition to 1.7. Luckily for us he has strong motivation to ensure everything updates as smooth as possible; he'd like his lets play world, the dark tower, to make the transition.

Sengir has his own game now, you never know.
Anyways, its the only BC mod worth using >.>

 

[SaintLucifer]

Honestly without extra bees, everyone on my server just said screw bees, is too much effort to get anything useful without the proper tools. Tho this Gendustry mod seem promising, so maybe there is still hope for bee breeding on the future.

 

[l3lackCalamity]

Sengir has his own game now, you never know.
Anyways, its the only BC mod worth using >.>

Minecraft is a very diverse game so never expect everyone to share your opinion. RF, tesseracts, and AE, look cool for futuristic style builds. But I like my minecraft tech with SteamPunk inspiration, and with mods that require the use of my head to solve challenges.

Also forestry is currently maintained by Sengir, MysticalAges, and CovertJaguar. If Sengir does leave, and the other two receive permission, there's a good chance they'll try to keep forestry alive.

 

[SonOfABirch]

Sengir has his own game now, you never know.
Anyways, its the only BC mod worth using >.>

Railcraft for me, I needs my boilers :3
oh and Plugins for Forestry, moreso than forestry itself

 

[diabloripper]

Is there anything official he did stop? cause the packs are still in beta