Werewolf Game 2 Game Thread

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Staxed

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Oh dear. Can we get confirmations from any other villagers? I may have just blundered behind closed doors.[DOUBLEPOST=1377611224][/DOUBLEPOST]Or maybe not confirmations --- we don't want all our villagers revealing themselves, raising the odds the Seer might be killed. It's possible the_j485 was just speaking from past Mafia experience. Dammit, Staxed, why couldn't you have posted that five minutes earlier? ;)


Ok Eunomiac, it's time for another question and answer session. Now that I've found out Peggle wasn't a werewolf, that leaves you as a very active person in the discussions so far...which of course is either very good, or very bad. And while I overlooked it yesterday (though it did cross my mind), I now have to make my thoughts on this matter public.

If you are a villager...why did you say this? If you are a villager, you should have known that us villagers are called villagers and not civilians. Your quote above almost seems like a desparate attempt to cover up your mistake after I pointed it out. Explain?
 
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Ok Eunomiac, it's time for another question and answer session. Now that I've found out Peggle wasn't a werewolf, that leaves you as a very active person in the discussions so far...which of course is either very good, or very bad. And while I overlooked it yesterday (though it did cross my mind), I now have to make my thoughts on this matter public.

If you are a villager...why did you say this? If you are a villager, you should have known that us villagers are called villagers and not civilians. Your quote above almost seems like a desparate attempt to cover up your mistake after I pointed it out. Explain?

I believe you are wrong on this. Before, I only called myself a civilian because that's the first way of describing it that popped into my head.
I can't even remember if Icount told us villager or civilian :p
 

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:( why do I have to draw attention to myself...

well, voting to lynch me will (just like last time), be one of the things that makes the villagers lose :(

I hope you can see the method to my madness
 

Staxed

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I believe you are wrong on this. Before, I only called myself a civilian because that's the first way of describing it that popped into my head.
I can't even remember if Icount told us villager or civilian :p


The fact that you think I'm wrong doesn't relate at all to the questions I'm asking though. No matter what we are called, the fact the Eunomiac took the first thing someone said and agreed with it, seems like he was doing it just to make us THINK he knew what he was talking about. Just suspicious is all in light of some new information I have.
 

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Just FYI, if most people vote against Vike, I will change my vote. He sure looks like a werewolf. But, reviewing my posts, I look like one too. I shoudn't have said this, should I? Suck it. BUt I hink euromaniac (I know it's not his name, but, well, werewolfs are kinda maniacs) is acting the weirdest. Staxed is also looking too villager-like so, maybe he is also a wolf.

BTW, can bodyguards protect themselves?
 

the_j485

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The fact that you think I'm wrong doesn't relate at all to the questions I'm asking though. No matter what we are called, the fact the Eunomiac took the first thing someone said and agreed with it, seems like he was doing it just to make us THINK he knew what he was talking about. Just suspicious is all in light of some new information I have.

As if all the hubbub you and other people are creating isn't in itself suspicious...[DOUBLEPOST=1377693610][/DOUBLEPOST]
Just FYI, if most people vote against Vike, I will change my vote. He sure looks like a werewolf. But, reviewing my posts, I look like one too. I shoudn't have said this, should I? Suck it. BUt I hink euromaniac (I know it's not his name, but, well, werewolfs are kinda maniacs) is acting the weirdest. Staxed is also looking too villager-like so, maybe he is also a wolf.

BTW, can bodyguards protect themselves?

I don't believe they can...
 
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Staxed

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I don't think bodyguards can protect themselves, but we also don't know what roles are running about because we were never told.

From everything I've seen so far (no one has really made any huge glaring mistakes that scream werewolf to me), I think the people doing the most talking about villagers/other roles that are not on the werewolf team. Right now I truthfully think the werewolves are the ones NOT saying anything, just sitting back and laughing at all of us pointing fingers and running around like fools.

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As if all the hubbub you and other people are creating isn't in itself suspicious...[DOUBLEPOST=1377693610][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't believe they can...
When I was 3-4 years old, I played a game with my friends called "boogie man is killing us all". It was very similar to this one (but without a seer). The body guard (That was called cop) could protect himself, and that was basically everything he did. But it was so unfair that we always lynched him. Anyway, you didn't need to know this. But yeah, that is where my doubt is coming fom.
 

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As if all the hubbub you and other people are creating isn't in itself suspicious...


sadly the end result of trying to find out information and find out who to point the finger at is itself suspicious, no way to prevent that
 

dgdas9

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I don't think bodyguards can protect themselves, but we also don't know what roles are running about because we were never told.

From everything I've seen so far (no one has really made any huge glaring mistakes that scream werewolf to me), I think the people doing the most talking about villagers/other roles that are not on the werewolf team. Right now I truthfully think the werewolves are the ones NOT saying anything, just sitting back and laughing at all of us pointing fingers and running around like fools.

Droideka30
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have been the quietest
Yeh, that sure is a good strategy, pointing the finger at others when people start figuring out who you really are. I am this close to change my vote for you to get lynched
 

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Yeh, that sure is a good strategy, pointing the finger at others when people start figuring out who you really are. I am this close to change my vote for you to get lynched


I will gladly take the lynching to take the heat away from more important members of my team, I'm just a normal villager with no extra powers.

Everyone can be made suspicious in one way or another. Like you for instance, coming right in throwing a vote out, then saying you did it because you didn't have much time, and now here you are posting again just an hour or so later. Or maybe you are suspicious because ICountFrom0 said yesterday that if someone dies from the people that hadn't voted yet it would ruin the game due to losing a role. Maybe that role was a werewolf and now you are that werewolf. See...everyone can be suspicious :).

However, I don't think it's Vike, and I'm inclined to believe it's not Eunomaiac (though I'm still interested in his reply to my question), I know it's not me...so that's leaves the less talkative people.
 

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I will gladly take the lynching to take the heat away from more important members of my team, I'm just a normal villager with no extra powers.

Everyone can be made suspicious in one way or another. Like you for instance, coming right in throwing a vote out, then saying you did it because you didn't have much time, and now here you are posting again just an hour or so later. Or maybe you are suspicious because ICountFrom0 said yesterday that if someone dies from the people that hadn't voted yet it would ruin the game due to losing a role. Maybe that role was a werewolf and now you are that werewolf. See...everyone can be suspicious :).

However, I don't think it's Vike, and I'm inclined to believe it's not Eunomaiac (though I'm still interested in his reply to my question), I know it's not me...so that's leaves the less talkative people.
Well, that can me a strategy too. I will never say what I am, because if I do so, I will just look suspicious. But before I vote in you, I will vote in Vike.

I don't recall if I said that, but just to clear it out, I WASN'T SURE.

Vike looks VERY suspicious. But eunomaniac looks even more.
 
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Well, that can me a strategy too. I will never say what I am, because if I do so, I will just look suspicious. But before I vote in you, I will vote in Vike.

I don't recall if I said that, but just to clear it out, I WASN'T SURE.

Vike looks VERY suspicious. But eunomaniac looks even more.


I agree with you on Euno (at the moment, still waiting for a response), Euno is looking more suspicious to me now...(though I still think it's the people hiding in the shadows). Gonna be a hard choice to make today.
 

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I find it difficult enough just to follow the conversations sometimes. Given that this whole this is a mind game and trying to tell who is speaking truth and who is lying just makes the conversations that more difficult. The only truth I know is the role I was given. But, I am also very suspicious of someone that votes right after the day starts. One thing I learned from my previous game is not to jump on the lynch bandwagon to soon.
 
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dgdas9

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You're doing it man, maybe it IS the people in the shadows. If morempeople agre, I will change my vote![DOUBLEPOST=1377697342][/DOUBLEPOST]
I find it difficult enough just to follow the conversations sometimes. Given that this whole this is a mind game and trying to tell who is speaking truth and who is lying just makes the conversations that more difficult. The only truth I know is the role I was given. But, I am also very suspicious of someone that votes right after the day starts. One thing I learned from my previous game is not to jump on the lynch bandwagon to soon.
Yeah, I sure look suspicious, but I was trying to get it done already AND I was waiting for this moment for a while, the same way I was about to shout PEGGLE IS A WOLF GUYS, in the last game.
 

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I doubt the wolves deliberately targeted PeggleFrank. I suspect PeggleFrank's role---what with its reference to the Pied Piper---involved some ability to redirect or attract targets to himself. Looking at his actions during the first day through this lens, doesn't it look like someone trying to attract lynch votes and/or get the attention of any Seers, etc.? Considering the myth of the Pied Piper, his win condition may even have depended on it. Whether his death factored into that plan, or was his plan backfiring, is a whole 'nother question though.

Ok Eunomiac, it's time for another question and answer session. Now that I've found out Peggle wasn't a werewolf, that leaves you as a very active person in the discussions so far...which of course is either very good, or very bad. And while I overlooked it yesterday (though it did cross my mind), I now have to make my thoughts on this matter public.
Oh dear. Can we get confirmations from any other villagers? I may have just blundered behind closed doors.

Or maybe not confirmations --- we don't want all our villagers revealing themselves, raising the odds the Seer might be killed. It's possible the_j485 was just speaking from past Mafia experience. Dammit, Staxed, why couldn't you have posted that five minutes earlier? ;)

If you are a villager...why did you say this? If you are a villager, you should have known that us villagers are called villagers and not civilians. Your quote above almost seems like a desparate attempt to cover up your mistake after I pointed it out. Explain?
Certainly. And please ask for more if this answer doesn't satisfy you; I may have missed a component of your question. (When you talk as much as I do in a game, the only way to deflect suspicion is to be absolutely clear and consistent in everything you say and do, and I realize this.)

I have been honest from the beginning about the fact that I am NOT a villager:

I am on the villager team, but I'm not a generic villager/civilian. It would help the werewolves more than it would help the villagers if I revealed more; I need the wolves in the dark and don't mind if they know it. I'm happy to be a sacrificial lamb to protect our Seer on the first night, as I suspect I'll be an early target anyways---wolves don't like people who talk sense.
So I wouldn't know one way or the other what villagers are called in this game, for my card says something different.

To elaborate a bit more on my thinking with this whole civilian/villager thing: I'd just come off GM'ing my own Werewolf game, where villagers were called "Villagers", and "Villager" is the only name I know of for that role. This is why the_j485's mention of "civilian" stuck out at me---it's literally the first time I'd heard that term. I immediately thought, "oh, maybe they're called 'Civilians' in this game." Which led to: "Wait, how would the_j485 know , unless he was a 'Civilian'?"

When no one responded at the time to say "wait a minute, I'm a /Villager/, not a Civilian!", I assumed I was correct... until you posted, stating that "Villager" was the term being used in this game, and not Civilian.

The "maybe blunder" I mentioned was this: I revealed my role to the_j485 in a private message not five minutes before you posted that, on my flawed theory that I had accurately identified a 'Civilian'. (It's only a "maybe" because, as I mentioned, it's possible the_j485 is just reverting to Mafia lingo since that's what he's familiar with.)