Vineacraft: Hiatus (Not dead)

[loboca]

From this http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Chocolate I got a few ideas, use as you wish.

So maybe you have to heat cocoa beans to crack the husks, then you squeeze the nibs to get cocoa liquor (which could provide cocoa husks that double as fertilizer/compost).

As for the many uses for cocoa liquor (the 'liquor' part is just a name, it doesn't actually contain any alcohol):
It would make a good biomass liquid.
Can be used to power organic machines.
Can be used with casts to make 'Chocolate Ingots'. And maybe who knows, maybe that is just what creepers have wanted all along, and that pacifies them

 

[dgdas9]

It'd also be cool if you add the real way of making ethanol!

From this http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Chocolate I got a few ideas, use as you wish.

So maybe you have to heat cocoa beans to crack the husks, then you squeeze the nibs to get cocoa liquor (which could provide cocoa husks that double as fertilizer/compost).

As for the many uses for cocoa liquor (the 'liquor' part is just a name, it doesn't actually contain any alcohol):
It would make a good biomass liquid.
Can be used to power organic machines.
Can be used with casts to make 'Chocolate Ingots'. And maybe who knows, maybe that is just what creepers have wanted all along, and that pacifies them

 

[Pokefenn]

DevStream on at:http://www.twitch.tv/pokefenn

Want to give any ideas or ask a question, just come and chat!
Gunna code and learn to model/texture for a bit.

 

[dgdas9]

DevStream on at:http://www.twitch.tv/pokefenn

Want to give any ideas or ask a question, just come and chat!
Gunna code and learn to model/texture for a bit.

Going to watch ![DOUBLEPOST=1374744287][/DOUBLEPOST]IF TWICH.TV WANTS TO LOAD FOR ME...

 

[FrankieTheSnake]

I want to look, but my internet will die in the process, good luck coding!

 

[Pokefenn]

Ok, had a nice 30-40 min stream i think it was, fixed a VERY big bug with the mod, now it doesnt crash instantly and it actually creates config files, if anyone is interested.

Few more bugs, expect a commit on github later on if i can fix those bugs also.

 

[dgdas9]

Ok, had a nice 30-40 min stream i think it was, fixed a VERY big bug with the mod, now it doesnt crash instantly and it actually creates config files, if anyone is interested.

Few more bugs, expect a commit on github later on if i can fix those bugs also.

Time passed so quickly....

 

[Pokefenn]

I want to look, but my internet will die in the process, good luck coding!

I already ended the stream xD

 

[FrankieTheSnake]

Oh, well, that's mindreading right there. :3

 

[Pokefenn]

Before i leave for a few hours, i have a few things id like to share.

So how about the Automatic squeezer doesnt cost energy (i know its been said before) its automatic, right.
And i add the advanced squeezer, this is a late game version that runs off either eu, mj, ue power or cocoa beans, adding alot of compatibility, this will create the most amount of vine sap by a pretty good amount.

Thoughts?

 

[Loufmier]

Before i leave for a few hours, i have a few things id like to share.

So how about the Automatic squeezer doesnt cost energy (i know its been said before) its automatic, right.
And i add the advanced squeezer, this is a late game version that runs off either eu, mj, ue power or cocoa beans, adding alot of compatibility, this will create the most amount of vine sap by a pretty good amount.

Thoughts?

might do. but i`d like to know you exact plans on using coca beans as fuel.
what processing has to be done, to use beans as fuel?
what machine will be powered by this fuel, except squeezer?

i also interested in what energy/fuel will be the main thing in your mod? while adding another sort of fuel does makes sense, it doesnt make much sense for it to be machine specific. other mods deal with different fuel types by having generators, that produce energy that can be used by all machinery. buy you`ve scraped generators for your mod, and thus addition of another fuel just look like a mess to me.

so i`d like you to clearly state what is you power system and what role other`s mod power play in your mod.

 

[Pokefenn]

might do. but i`d like to know you exact plans on using coca beans as fuel.

might do. but i`d like to know you exact plans on using coca beans as fuel.
what processing has to be done, to use beans as fuel?
what machine will be powered by this fuel, except squeezer?

i also interested in what energy/fuel will be the main thing in your mod? while adding another sort of fuel does makes sense, it doesnt make much sense for it to be machine specific. other mods deal with different fuel types by having generators, that produce energy that can be used by all machinery. buy you`ve scraped generators for your mod, and thus addition of another fuel just look like a mess to me.

so i`d like you to clearly state what is you power system and what role other`s mod power play in your mod.

Ok, so all machines apart from squeezers use vineSap.
Squeezers can squeeze either vines or cocoabeans, giving the fluid counterparts.
At the start, liquid cocoa will be used exclusivity for the advanced squeezer, the advanced squeezer is VERY expensive and costs ALOT of fuel to run, its like the matter fabricator of my mod, it runs off of liquid cocoa.
Liquid cocoa will get alot of uses later on, but on early releases, just the advanced squeezer.

This mod is preAlpha, things will change alot.

 

[dgdas9]

^^^^

Wait what?

 

[Pokefenn]

^^^^

Wait what?

Ok, so all machines apart from squeezers use vineSap.
Squeezers can squeeze either vines or cocoabeans, giving the fluid counterparts.
At the start, liquid cocoa will be used exclusivity for the advanced squeezer, the advanced squeezer is VERY expensive and costs ALOT of fuel to run, its like the matter fabricator of my mod, it runs off of liquid cocoa.
Liquid cocoa will get alot of uses later on, but on early releases, just the advanced squeezer.

This mod is preAlpha, things will change alot.

Is what i said, it derped xD

 

[Loufmier]

oh my, what a mess comes from you
so you say liquid cocoa is squeezed coca beans. and liquid cocoa is used to power automatic squeezer.
since you`ve said "Squeezers can squeeze either vines or cocoabeans, giving the fluid counterparts." i assume automatic squeezer can also squeezes coca, which leads us to same bloody issue: you stuff beans into squeezer, pout some liquid cocoa to get liquid coca. sounds familiar right? snap out of it, will ya?

 

[Pokefenn]

oh my, what a mess comes from you
so you say liquid cocoa is squeezed coca beans. and liquid cocoa is used to power automatic squeezer.
since you`ve said "Squeezers can squeeze either vines or cocoabeans, giving the fluid counterparts." i assume automatic squeezer can also squeezes coca, which leads us to same bloody issue: you stuff beans into squeezer, pout some liquid cocoa to get liquid coca. sounds familiar right? snap out of it, will ya?

Wow, i really am stupid T.T
I have a few options, drop it or not let the advanced one squeeze cocoa.

I may just leave the advanced squeezer for a bit and just have the automatic be the "highest tier" for a small amount of time.

Edit:
Or, i could make the advanced squeezer cost Cocoa beans, instead of liquid cocoa.

 

[Loufmier]

Wow, i really am stupid T.T
I have a few options, drop it or not let the advanced one squeeze cocoa.

I may just leave the advanced squeezer for a bit and just have the automatic be the "highest tier" for a small amount of time.

i`m just trying to help you not to make design choice that will just annoy players

it will be easier for all of us, if you drop the idea that automatic squeezer should use power in order to squeeze vines or coca
however, since its a squeezer, you should also add all recipes from forestry`s squeezer to it.

now how i think you should do it:
make squeezer to have a fuel tank, that can be filled with liquid coca and sap(liquid coca and sap will add different fuel value, or same as you see fit). the tank will be filling when squeezer processes vines or coca, when it`s full,the output tank will start filling, and when pipes are applied, they will take liquid from this(output) tank.

when precessing forestry`s recipes, the fuel tank will be drained and must be supplied with external sap or cocoa, in order to balance forestry`s squeezer power requirements.

 

[tehBlobLord]

As long as I can drink the liquid cocoa, I'm happy.

 

[Pokefenn]

i`m just trying to help you not to make design choice that will just annoy players

it will be easier for all of us, if you drop the idea that automatic squeezer should use power in order to squeeze vines or coca
however, since its a squeezer, you should also add all recipes from forestry`s squeezer to it.

now how i think you should do it:
make squeezer to have a fuel tank, that can be filled with liquid coca and sap(liquid coca and sap will add different fuel value, or same as you see fit). the tank will be filling when squeezer processes vines or coca, when it`s full,the output tank will start filling, and when pipes are applied, they will take liquid from this(output) tank.

when precessing forestry`s recipes, the fuel tank will be drained and must be supplied with external sap or cocoa, in order to balance forestry`s squeezer power requirements.

I actually had something like that in my head, pretty decent idea.
Everything is subject to change, if i dont like it/ the community doesnt like it, then it will be changed, if people love it, then it will stay!

Edit:

So for example, the advanced squeezer can only have fluids pumped out if it has more than 10 buckets in it, and its internal tank has 20 buckets in it, this means that you dont need to pump the liquid back in, personally i think this will work, does everyone else?

 

[Loufmier]

So for example, the advanced squeezer can only have fluids pumped out if it has more than 10 buckets in it, and its internal tank has 20 buckets in it, this means that you dont need to pump the liquid back in, personally i think this will work, does everyone else?

it should work, however if there is only 1 tank, and pipes can only extract to a certain level, it means that squeezer will be locked to only 1 type of recipe, i.e. it can only process vines/cocoa/whatever, untill you destroy it(free its tank) and place it back. and if you add forestry`s recipe it will mean free squeezing for em too, which is a bit imbalanced. imo having 2 tanks will work out better.