Trials of Murder [GAME THREAD]
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I want people to be careful with this line of reasoning. This is called a logical fallacy. Your lottery numbers are not more likely to come up just because they haven't in ten years.
In the case of the accused, the thought process here is that we won't jail wolves if we keep releasing people. But statistically, all things being equal (and I hope I've demonstrated that lethosos is at LEAST as innocent as sgbros) you are more likely to keep jailing villagers, not wolves.
If you're going to lynch someone, have a better reason for it than this or it just appears like you're wolf-hedging: giving up an sgbros-kill so you can safely get a lethosos-kill.
Since day is ending and leth is likely going to jail i'd like to share this piece of info from the defending private convo:
lethosos said:
@Fraction2 That is why the solid reason not to jail him is something that would delay the inevitable, his death.pyure said:
Vote Lethosos and sgbro as innocent. Turns out I'm blind and didn't noticed that Leth had explained why he went after Fowl, and there's isn't any good reason to believe that sgbro is guilty.
Vote goreae for trial. Just so we can be sure that he's an actual villager and not a very sneaky wolf.
Vote goreae for trial. Just so we can be sure that he's an actual villager and not a very sneaky wolf.
Vote Lethosos and sgbros as innocent.
Neither of them seem really that wolfy right now so let them free. We can always try again later with both of them. Leth seems to be able being able to prove himself rather easy later on.
Vote Someone Else for trial.
I believe he is rather quiet and still votes to kill leth after he gave a major hint regarding his role:
Neither of them seem really that wolfy right now so let them free. We can always try again later with both of them. Leth seems to be able being able to prove himself rather easy later on.
Vote Someone Else for trial.
I believe he is rather quiet and still votes to kill leth after he gave a major hint regarding his role:
According to his post, his reason was that the hint was not enough to convince him.
Seems like a reasonable reason to continue wanting to jail someone.
We are letting the town decide who they want to lynch. If you decide to cancel it tonight then I guess it's your loss. But you should choose it wisely.
Also pretty much gg prosecution at this point. Only way we can win is if we get double guilty verdict at some point.
Also pretty much gg prosecution at this point. Only way we can win is if we get double guilty verdict at some point.
Well, I must have read over that then. Sorry @Someone Else 37 I must have read over it. I blame the fact that its early for me
Well, I say it again. If leth is the real medium the wolves want him dead and he should be able to prove himself. If however he is not the medium he won't be able to prove him and we can lynch him when he fails to do so.
The town had been in the courtroom for a whole day now, but in the end they could only conclude that they were both innocent. Not to be so easily defeated, Vikestep and Shazam08 dragged RealKC and Someone Else 37 up to be put on trial. Another person was missing from the jury today. It was Fraction2, he had been sliced in half! How ironic.
RealKC and Someone Else 37 were put on trial!
Lethosos and sgbros1 were found innocent!
Fraction2 was killed! He was a basic villager!
RealKC and Someone Else 37 were put on trial!
Lethosos and sgbros1 were found innocent!
Fraction2 was killed! He was a basic villager!
If we find everyone innocent from now (which is ofc impossible), the game would drag for 14 days, so you still have plenty of time to do something about it.
Wow, so great to see deep and meaningful debate here...
OK, @RealKC , care to explain your reasoning for guilty-voting both sgbros and Lethosos before either of them had a chance to speak in their own defense? I outlined why that made me think you were a wolf yesterday - in brief, because you seemed very certain that they were not on your team and that the only team who knows with such certainty are the wolves. If you have a good and compelling counter-argument to my accusation, I'd like to hear it. Also, I'm curious as to why you voted for yourself to go on trial, given that two people get voted up each day and you could have placed your vote onto somebody you thought was a wolf.
@Someone Else 37 you've been fairly quiet this game. You also stand accused of gunning for the person with a medium claim. What say you in response?
OK, @RealKC , care to explain your reasoning for guilty-voting both sgbros and Lethosos before either of them had a chance to speak in their own defense? I outlined why that made me think you were a wolf yesterday - in brief, because you seemed very certain that they were not on your team and that the only team who knows with such certainty are the wolves. If you have a good and compelling counter-argument to my accusation, I'd like to hear it. Also, I'm curious as to why you voted for yourself to go on trial, given that two people get voted up each day and you could have placed your vote onto somebody you thought was a wolf.
@Someone Else 37 you've been fairly quiet this game. You also stand accused of gunning for the person with a medium claim. What say you in response?
@RJS the reason I voted leth guilty was because after all the arguments that were made making it pretty clear that we shouldn't vite for people the defendants vote he still voted fowl + the fact that he was ok with sacrificing a posible villager.
Now that I think about it, the reason I had to vote sg guilty was because he was pretty inactive, but it looks like that's his playstyle.
The reason I voted myself is because I wanted to generate discussion. I believe I've already mentioned that and vike told me to never to do that again.
Now that I think about it, the reason I had to vote sg guilty was because he was pretty inactive, but it looks like that's his playstyle.
The reason I voted myself is because I wanted to generate discussion. I believe I've already mentioned that and vike told me to never to do that again.
Why did you think that would generate a discussion? Maybe if there was a jester like role in the game but I am pretty certain there isn't one in this one.
When your votes are insta-locked you need to be careful with when and who you vote for. As for sacrificing a possible villager: you where doing more so as your vote could have caused them to die whereas with Leth's vote on fowl he would still have only been on trial (I hope this sentence made some sense).
Now, maybe later in the game this extra day won't matter too much however we still have little to go on and it is thus a good idea to have those on trial at least a try at defending themselves. At least, that is my view on it.
Well now we haven't lynched anyone and we're down a village member. Without finding at least one person guilty today, we'll still have gotten nowhere and the wolves will presumably get off another kill. However at this point I have a fairly balanced stance regarding both of the currently accused. Time will tell if that opinion is altered by new information. I'll be back to talk more and possibly cast my vote later today.
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