the road to thaumcraft infusion automation

[steve g]

For your mana bean farm, you could always (assuming you have MFR) trap a pech in a net, and put that in a auto-spawner.

huh..did not know about the pech foragers. done and done. also added a cursed earth room with grinders to get the mob essence going. no nore growing beans

you guys are giving me awesome ideas. ill be sure to add proper credits on the map once its working

 

[Brian Cherrick]

huh..did not know about the pech foragers. done and done. also added a cursed earth room with grinders to get the mob essence going. no nore growing beans

you guys are giving me awesome ideas. ill be sure to add proper credits on the map once its working

That's what I did. I setup a small room adjacent to the one I mentioned. It trashes all the drops, and just dumps the mob essence in the spawner for the pech foragers. I have a redstone signal setup to shut the spawner off when my supply of beans is high enough.

As for the refilling the jars, I have a maintenance tunnel behind the jars dug out, and have 1 golem to fill the jars. But the setup I have requires 2 range upgrades. If you can't come up with a design, I can post pics of my room up here for ya.

 

[immibis]

How many aspects are ever used in infusion crafting?

 

[Feniks]

up to 8 but each of them is used in at least one recipie.

 

[immibis]

up to 8 but each of them is used in at least one recipie.

Are all of the aspects used in at least one infusion recipe? Even relatively obscure ones like vacuous, gelum, limus, vitium, tenebrae, tempestus and sensus?

 

[Feniks]

I don't know on the top of my head but even if not I would say that about 90% of them gets used at least once.

 

[belgabor]

Are all of the aspects used in at least one infusion recipe? Even relatively obscure ones like vacuous, gelum, limus, vitium, tenebrae, tempestus and sensus?

Vacuos, Vitium, Tenebrae and Sensus are used for sure, at least in TT, not sure about Vanilla TC.

 

[ThatOneSlowking]

Are all of the aspects used in at least one infusion recipe? Even relatively obscure ones like vacuous, gelum, limus, vitium, tenebrae, tempestus and sensus?

With TTKAMI all of them are, quite a few are unused with vanilla TC (Saxum?)

 

[Brian Cherrick]

Are all of the aspects used in at least one infusion recipe? Even relatively obscure ones like vacuous, gelum, limus, vitium, tenebrae, tempestus and sensus?

Here is what I've compiled after looking in my thaumonomicon.

Spoiler

Aer - Staff Core of the Primal
Alienis - Wand Focus: Portable Hole
Aqua - Staff Core of the Primal
Arbor - Axe of the Stream
Auram - Thaumium Wand Caps
Bestia - Blaze Rod Wand Core
Cognito - Wand Focus of Warding
Corpus - Cowl of the Abyssal Depths (TT)
Examinis - Bone Wand Core
Fabrico - Shovel of the Earthmover
Fames - Infusion Enchantment: Frugal
Gelum - Icy Wand Core
Granum - Lamp of Fertility
Herba - Hoe of Growth
Humanus - Golem Core: Use
Ignis - Staff Core of the Primal
Instrumentum - Infusion Enchantment: Efficiency
Iter - Thaumostatic Harness
Limus -
Lucrum - Infusion Enchantment: Treasure
Lux - Ichor (TT)
Machina - Arcane Bore
Messis -
Metallum - Awakened Ichorium Pickaxe (TT)
Meto - Hoe of Growth
Mortuus -
Motus - Reed Wand Core
Ordo - Staff Core of the Primal
Pannus - Bottomless Pouch (TT)
Perdito - Staff Core of the Primal
Perfodio - Arcane Bore
Permutatio - Wand Recharge Pedestal
Potentia - Thaumium Wand Caps
Praecantatio - Staff Core of the Primal
Sano - Wand Focus: Mending (TT)
Saxum - Awakened Ichorium Pickaxe (TT)
Sensus - Pickaxe of the Core
Spiritus - Wand Focus: Mending (TT)
Telum - Infusion Enchantment: Thorns
Tempestas -
Tempus -
Tenebrae - Obsidian Wand Core
Terra - Staff Core of the Primal
Tutamen - Wand Focus of Warding
Vacuos - Arcane Bore
Venenum -
Victus - Lamp of Growth
Vinculum - Awakened Ichorium Shovel (TT)
Vitium - Wand Focus: Dislocation (TT)
Vitreus - Quartz Wand Core
Volatus - Thaumostatic Harness

This list is based only on what I've discovered so far. I haven't made any of the TT stuff yet, so not sure what, if anything I unlock by scanning it.

 

[ThatOneSlowking]

Here is what I've compiled after looking in my thaumonomicon.

Spoiler

Aer - Staff Core of the Primal
Alienis - Wand Focus: Portable Hole
Aqua - Staff Core of the Primal
Arbor - Axe of the Stream
Auram - Thaumium Wand Caps
Bestia - Blaze Rod Wand Core
Cognito - Wand Focus of Warding
Corpus - Cowl of the Abyssal Depths (TT)
Examinis - Bone Wand Core
Fabrico - Shovel of the Earthmover
Fames - Infusion Enchantment: Frugal
Gelum - Icy Wand Core
Granum - Lamp of Fertility
Herba - Hoe of Growth
Humanus - Golem Core: Use
Ignis - Staff Core of the Primal
Instrumentum - Infusion Enchantment: Efficiency
Iter - Thaumostatic Harness
Limus -
Lucrum - Infusion Enchantment: Treasure
Lux - Ichor (TT)
Machina - Arcane Bore
Messis -
Metallum - Awakened Ichorium Pickaxe (TT)
Meto - Hoe of Growth
Mortuus -
Motus - Reed Wand Core
Ordo - Staff Core of the Primal
Pannus - Bottomless Pouch (TT)
Perdito - Staff Core of the Primal
Perfodio - Arcane Bore
Permutatio - Wand Recharge Pedestal
Potentia - Thaumium Wand Caps
Praecantatio - Staff Core of the Primal
Sano - Wand Focus: Mending (TT)
Saxum - Awakened Ichorium Pickaxe (TT)
Sensus - Pickaxe of the Core
Spiritus - Wand Focus: Mending (TT)
Telum - Infusion Enchantment: Thorns
Tempestas -
Tempus -
Tenebrae - Obsidian Wand Core
Terra - Staff Core of the Primal
Tutamen - Wand Focus of Warding
Vacuos - Arcane Bore
Venenum -
Victus - Lamp of Growth
Vinculum - Awakened Ichorium Shovel (TT)
Vitium - Wand Focus: Dislocation (TT)
Vitreus - Quartz Wand Core
Volatus - Thaumostatic Harness

This list is based only on what I've discovered so far. I haven't made any of the TT stuff yet, so not sure what, if anything I unlock by scanning it.

Check magic bees stuff for tempus

 

[Brian Cherrick]

Check magic bees stuff for tempus

Based on what I have "discovered", I don't see any infusion crafting that requires it. That's not to say there isn't any, just if there is, I've yet to discover it. Which I'm sure I will when I get into bees, and make things, and scan them. You have a specific recipe in mind that uses it? Perhaps it may have been changed?

 

[Eruantien]

Based on what I have "discovered", I don't see any infusion crafting that requires it. That's not to say there isn't any, just if there is, I've yet to discover it. Which I'm sure I will when I get into bees, and make things, and scan them. You have a specific recipe in mind that uses it? Perhaps it may have been changed?

I think there was actually a TT infusion that requires it... gotta check on that.
But only clocks, and maybe repeaters, have tempus on them. Clocks, however, can be made with aluminum brass instead of gold BTW.

 

[steve g]

slowly getting there. after taking a peep at how direwolf20 was doing his automation, i managed to replicate it and get my jars filling up. this setup is mirrored on the other side so there are 60 jars being managed by the golems in total. the code is set up to handle 5 aspects at a time. the computer scans the jars, picks the first 5 that need essentia and if there are beans in the system for it, it will request the beans and send them to that hopper just next to the furnace. good thing hoppers have 5 slots

the other side will do the same thing, and some aspects are repeated so the recipes from tinkerer that need more than 64 of an aspect get some love as well. I also upgraded the altar to 12 pedestals, as some tinkerer infusions actually require that many. more when i get to that part of the build

soon my friends...i will get that altar going.

 

[steve g]

ok, essentia automation is done. this is really freakin cool

that nasty looking mess is a what triggers the computer into running the next batch of mana beans. like i said previously, the computer is set up to load up to 5 different sets of mana beans into the hopper via logi pipes. but how do i know when to start the next cycle? do i wait a minute? wait for the hopper to empty out? nope. denied.

theres a pressure plate under the golem where it stands waiting to unload aspects into the jars. theres a repeater coming off that plate to a rednet cable, to a not->state cell->not->rednet cable to top face of the computer. the idea is this: when the golem is idle, he will be standing on that pressure plate. this triggers the state cell to run its delay (5 second delay) and turn its output on, signaling the computer to scan/reload on beans. if the golem is moving back and forth, the state cell is constantly reset, and the signal to the computer is off. that signal stays low until the golem is done and stays on the plate. perfect timing without wasting beans or stuffing the hopper and killing the whole thing.

here im using AE's subnetwork feature to seperate the mana beans from the rest of the AE network. the tesseract is providing power to the lp power juntions, feeding mob drops into the ae system, and piping mob essence over to the main ae system, where i have fluidic interface to recieve it and store it for the pech spawner.

and finally...a teaser

that fire shard was not placed by my hand...i had a turtle place it via request pipe! if you look under the zombie heads, those are wireless turtles. underneath the pedestals are lp request pipes. every pedestal has a turtle/request pair. under the central pedestal as well, and one more sitting in front of the runic matrix. almost there, my people!

 

[steve g]

i have a question for you crazy lua/turtle heads out there:

is it possible to translate an AE crafting request to something computercraft can intercept?

what i would absolutely love to see is a item in my AE network that is craftable, but have computercraft catch the request and let the turtles do their thing on the altar. that would be an amazing system, otherwise id have to go with the massive screen with menus, blah blah blah...i really dont want to go that way if i could avoid it.

thinking out loud here: i could 'fake' it by making a bunch of bogus patterns, and have a turtle catch the request...say for example, i request a Hoe of the River. the pattern would contain say, a cobblestone block as the recipe and the result would be the hoe. attach interfaces to the turtle, fill them with the bogus patterns so when the craft request is made, a cobble shows up in the turtle...that would trigger the process to make a Hoe of the River. repeat for all TC infusion items, use vanilla items to stand in for the final product...that might actually work

 

[belgabor]

thinking out loud here: i could 'fake' it by making a bunch of bogus patterns, and have a turtle catch the request...say for example, i request a Hoe of the River. the pattern would contain say, a cobblestone block and the result would be the hoe. attach interface to turtle so when the craft request is made, a cobble shows up in the turtle...that would trigger the process to make a Hoe of the River. repeat for all TC items, use vanilla items to stand in for the final product...that might actually work

I don't think there is any other option than that.

 

[Eruantien]

i have a question for you crazy lua/turtle heads out there:

is it possible to translate an AE crafting request to something computercraft can intercept?

what i would absolutely love to see is a item in my AE network that is craftable, but have computercraft catch the request and let the turtles do their thing on the altar. that would be an amazing system, otherwise id have to go with the massive screen with menus, blah blah blah...i really dont want to go that way if i could avoid it.

Put an interface on the side of a chest, then give it a pattern, programmed something like "Crafts: 1 Axe of the Stream with 1 Thaumium Axe and 1 Greatwood Log and 1 Diamond and 2 Water Shards". When you request an Axe of the Stream, the AE system will output those items into the chest, where a turtle could grab them (if items in chest than infuse?) and set them up accordingly. Make sure that the Axe comes back into the AE network after it's finished, so the completed job will register.

A couple of details, though:
1. ME patterns can't hold more than nine different items. I don't know whether there's a way to have more than one pattern for an item's recipe... but this could be a problem if you have to infuse something like the TT or KAMI items.
2. There is no way, also, to ensure that the correct amount of essentia (plus some for instability!) is available, unless you add items or mana beans that can be dissolved into said recipe. Unless you have already built an automated essentia topping-off system, of course.
3. I don't have any clue as to the CC code needed to set up items symmetrically. Or to kick off the infusion when all the items have been set up. =/

But really... how many times would one need to activate an infusion before having to automate it? Usually, infused items last for a good while, if not forever, before having to be replaced.
I'd be much more interested in seeing the possibility of automated arcane crafting... which, at this point, is not possible, of course...
But good show, anyhow. Nice work on the LP system, too! All I use it for is the remote ordering device. =P

 

[YX33A]

I think there was actually a TT infusion that requires it... gotta check on that.
But only clocks, and maybe repeaters, have tempus on them. Clocks, however, can be made with aluminum brass instead of gold BTW.

Timetwister's Watch IIRC, and it's now a part of TH. Still, get TH if you don't have it. Get all the TC addons that are beyond basic dev. Having textures is not beyond basic dev, mind you. If that was the case, no one would be poking at a certain TC addon by a dev "who must not be named" who had tons of detritus in his TC addon that served literally no purpose and dragged down any good things in the mod as a result.

 

[Eruantien]

Timetwister's Watch IIRC, and it's now a part of TH. Still, get TH if you don't have it. Get all the TC addons that are beyond basic dev. Having textures is not beyond basic dev, mind you. If that was the case, no one would be poking at a certain TC addon by a dev "who must not be named" who had tons of detritus in his TC addon that served literally no purpose and dragged down any good things in the mod as a result.

Are you referring to Thaumic History with this "basic dev", or Thaumcraft Extras? Because TH also had copied code previously. Its dev has taken down the download...

 

[steve g]

Put an interface on the side of a chest, then give it a pattern, programmed something like "Crafts: 1 Axe of the Stream with 1 Thaumium Axe and 1 Greatwood Log and 1 Diamond and 2 Water Shards". When you request an Axe of the Stream, the AE system will output those items into the chest, where a turtle could grab them (if items in chest than infuse?) and set them up accordingly.

i thought about that, but theres a lot of room for error in that. for example: what if your missing one of the components? id rather it just be a single vanilla item, and let the code figure out the rest.

as for arcane crafting, im assuming the arcane table? i was thinking about that too.

imagine if you will: 100% complete tc automation. crucible, crafting, arcane table, and infusions. i think the arcane table can be done with a bunch of factorization routers (they can target specific inventory slots). i think openperipherals can do that too, tho im not sure if that ability is still there...i remember in ftb unleashed OP had an inventory turtle, that could also target specific slots. i used that quite a bit with automating ic2 reactors. that would be handy if it were still around in 1.6.4