Stupid questions regarding machines.(Pulv, etc)

[Deleted member 38496]

Natural hives don't respawn but are generated with the chunk. The bee species you get depends on the type of hive; tropical hives only appear in jungles, so either go find a new one or write a Mystcraft age for it if you have a jungle biome page from a dungeon or want to generate a few ages until you come across one with libraries to get pages from. (If you do go the Mystcraft route, ALWAYS HAVE A LINKING BOOK WHEN GOING TO AN AGE (crafted from a single book, links to the spot on which you crafted it) and put the descriptive book for the age in a lectern or linkbook stand, which are craftable from wood.) For bee breeding you'll also want to make an Indexer soon, which can store an unlimited number of bees, and depending on what you're working on breeding possibly an Acclimatizer to change the humidity and heat tolerances of your bees.

One other helpful thing to make is an infinite inventory system. For that you need to make an enderchest (which needs blaze rods) and an ender pouch to link to it, a chunk loader, some pipes (I'd recommend RP2's Pneumatic Tubes) and a bunch of chests. Basically you put down the chunk loader to keep that spot in your base loaded, place the enderchest and link it to the ender pouch by right clicking the pouch on the chest, then attach the enderchest to the other chests with pipes. I usually use a Redpower Filter and Timer combination to pull a stack at a time from the enderchest, but you need a Diamond Handsaw and Alloy Furnace to make these, so a Buildcraft wooden pipe and redstone engine to draw from the enderchest might be more feasible for you depending on your current resources level. What this system does is pull anything you place in the ender pouch out of the linked enderchest and place it in one of the attached chests, so you can go mining or exploring or whatever without your inventory filling up with loot and necessitating a return home.

 

[Deleted member 38496]

Actually, minus using swarmer princesses, you should always get a princess every time. So no idea why they died out.

Another thing you should do for bees is make a few apiarist's pipes once you get a couple pieces of propolis so you can make compact automatic apiaries . I do it by putting a number of apiaries in a row, placing a wooden pipe behind each one with a gate on it (although you'd want a redstone engine for each one) and connecting those with alternating cobble and stone pipes a block below (alternating since stone and cobble don't connect and this way you can have different bee species next to each other without accidental crossbreeding). Put an apiarist's pipe below each apiary, connected to the cobble/stone pipes, and set it to send any bee up and anything down (drones and princesses take priority over any bee when sorting and the any bee and item settings take priority over anything). Finally place an iron pipe below each apiarist's pipe and use a BC wrench or crescent hammer to orient them funneling items and the excess drones into an output pipe at the end. Alternatively you can set each pipe to send items to one side and use that to filter out excess drones for sending into a void pipe.

 

[noobbyte]

A note: you might want to start with the Gregtech blast furnace if you're having a lot of trouble finding slimeballs or magma cream. It's a tedious recipe, but the materials are not ridiculous if you're tired of hunting slimes. Now that they spawn in swamps, though, it might be easier (i just like the gregtech machines)
A second note: all chests will open under transparent or not-full (forgot the word) blocks. That means that chests will open under: half slabs, microblocks, stairs, glass, fences, cobble walls, iron bars, glass panes, other chests, etc.

 

[unspunreality]

Actually, minus using swarmer princesses, you should always get a princess every time. So no idea why they died out.

Another thing you should do for bees is make a few apiarist's pipes once you get a couple pieces of propolis so you can make compact automatic apiaries . I do it by putting a number of apiaries in a row, placing a wooden pipe behind each one with a gate on it (although you'd want a redstone engine for each one) and connecting those with alternating cobble and stone pipes a block below (alternating since stone and cobble don't connect and this way you can have different bee species next to each other without accidental crossbreeding). Put an apiarist's pipe below each apiary, connected to the cobble/stone pipes, and set it to send any bee up and anything down (drones and princesses take priority over any bee when sorting and the any bee and item settings take priority over anything). Finally place an iron pipe below each apiarist's pipe and use a BC wrench or crescent hammer to orient them funneling items and the excess drones into an output pipe at the end. Alternatively you can set each pipe to send items to one side and use that to filter out excess drones for sending into a void pipe.

Died out cause I was dumb. I didnt do my homework so I didnt notice they were hybrids, so I ended up with marble/jungle hybrids in the end who couldnt do their thing in a jungle. I got my beealizer and other stuff so Im set now.

But now my ideas have gotten loftier. I want to level a mountain! Well.. hollow it out anyway. Which is bringing me to a new problem. Ive watched minecraft streams(Love Sev) and got ideas from him. Got a pump system almost done for lava, but my problem comes in there.

Long story. Skip to the end. My second base sucks. Surrounded by redwood on 3 sides(Plains atm). So Im moving my base to some red mountain/wasteland biome. Its next to my only jungle and 3 rivers which is good for bees. Its a wasteland which is flzat and overlooks red mountains. Now I need to move my base and Ive also decided while Im still being bad, Ill use mining turtles to do the lofty task of excvating some some 40x40 chunks at a time for me.


You skipped here. Good. Now Im still new to redstone(Never used it) and piping. How could I set up a system where an ender chest empties out into anything else. Another chest, barrels, etc. I figured I could have some sort of piping that extends from the second ender chest and enters a system of barrels where the items just automatically sort themselves in. But I dunno how Id go about it.

Also, where exactly do you ned to place a chest so when a turtle returns to drop off, it'll put it into the chest? Left,right,behind,above it?

Sorry for all the questions. I also dont need an entire guide, but gentle nudges into what machines or piping/setup would work would be helpful. I eventually want to make a redstone cell but I need extra machines and I figured Ill wait till I set up a third base and can finally set up a proper energy system. I almost got my T2 solar panels set up so Im excited.


Why is minecraft addictive?

Edit: Is minecraft infinite btw? So if I go flying into the sunset Ill never hit an end? After setting up my second base Im debating taking my portal gun and going in a straightline until I hit something new. (LIKE A SWAMP. OR A JUNGLE. ;-. Do portals eventually despawn?

 

[unspunreality]

portals don't arbitrarally despawn.
Those jungle marble bees, can be bread, you just need to move em somewhere.
The world does end, you'll fall through it, what is it 2 BILLION blocks from start now?

Hasn't anybody suggested direwolf20 to you yet? Watch him, he explains things well. What you want is a sorting system.

Hollowing out a mountain is FUN. I do it in the desert.... yha, sand. If you don't mind not getting the drops, try a buildcraft filler.

Yeah. I figured out the bees part. I didnt have info on them so I figured they were broke till I beealizyed them and was like, oh yay. A jungle bee that can be used on plains. But now Im in a wasteland so pfffy. But I think rivers are normal/normal so I could probably use that.

And nope. No one suggested direwolf to me. I really need to learn how these pipes work. I wanna set up something simple for now tbh just so I can get my mountain base started. I dunno how to make specific programs on turtles yet so I figure just setting 3-4 to just excavate downward at like 10x10 each would be fine for a start. I could always fix it myself afterwards. Its mostly the sheer amount of items theyll get that makes me want to have automated ender chests so I dont need to return every 10 minutes and restart them. Anyhelp atleast on this front? Video, or whatever would be fine. The rest I find fun to mess around with and fail with. (Oh my watermill. How I will miss thee) but this I just want done so I can get moving already.



Edit: Ok, messing around, figured out some stuff. I learned wood is what needs to be the connector to a chest and what needs to be powered to pull items from a chest. Now, anyone have any idea how to work it out so that I could have a pipeline set up hooked up to various barrels and the items will know to stop off in their appropriate barrel, or an empty one if one isnt already available. Im guessing Ima need something smarter then stone transport pipes? Just did some proof of concept and while I got the transport to work, it just chucked the items out of the end of the pipe for me. =(

 

[Deleted member 38496]

Yeah, you'll need pneumatic tubing for effective storage systems. That requires an alloy furnace though, which allows you to make things like brass for the tubes out of copper and tin, and other things like red alloy ingots and doped wafers for redstone-activated machinery. I'd recommend using a Filter with a Timer next to it to pull from the enderchest. Tubes can only insert into barrels from the top side, but I'm not sure whether they can insert an item into an empty barrel, so you should probably set several barrels for cobble, dirt, gravel, ores, etc and place a couple of overflow chests at the end of the tube.

 

[Deleted member 38496]

Transposers pull one item and Filters pull one stack, Buffers act as chests with a separate small inventory for each of the five input sides so one of the inputs can't fill up the entire thing and not leave any room for other inputs, and Relays eject any item placed in them into a tube network or attached inventory. Relays are basically hoppers with nine slots instead of four that can output from any side (since RP2 behaves differently with some sided inventories than BC) and can output into pneumatic tubes, making it a good pipe-to-tube intermediate, but it can't output items into pipes. As such the best way to dispose of excess cobble might be using a filter to output the overflow into lava.

 

[unspunreality]

Well, thanks. I set it all up. Now Im still rebuilding my 3rd base. I excavated a small place for my chests with this set up. I need to expand the barrel storage though. But its fine like this for now while Im only mining out small areas.

Brought over machines and now Im working towards bigger stuff. My industrial electrolyzer was set up today finally. Probably gonna give it a test spin tomorrow. Trying to figure out what other machines I need. Im like 80% to a T2 solar panel but I need that damn iridium thingy. Which meant today I went to the end, killed the dragon and decided -not- to mine. Im unsure how the end works but I dont want to waste the potentially limited resources. So today or tomorrow Ima dip my toe into enchanting. Im sitting on 87 levels and 4 lv30 medallions. <.<;;;;(Liquid xp)

But aside from the update. I want to build a magma crucible for my liquid transposer so I can get molden ender. But doing some research made me all confused with it. I understand how to set one up and how it can mostly power itself. Ive seen a set up with 6 engines but I heard you could do 8 aswell? My problem mostly comes with if I make this system which would also output to thermal generators to grant me extra power, how would I use it to differientate for molten ender. Does each time I require some mean Id need to switch pipings to pump into a transposer?


Btw, thanks so much for all the help. I r dum.

 

[unspunreality]

The end has limited resources on the main island, but as you have gregtech it will also have unlimited rich ore deposits in the asteroids away from the mainland. Though you may need to fly a few thousand blocks to get all the ore and bees you want. Flying that far tends to mean either a recharge system build into an enderbag, or one of the very advanced flight systems... though... you could make a mystcraft book each time you are getting low, pop out with your linking book, recharge and then pop back.

I'd really suggest putting as much of it as possible through the GT grinder setup and using mercury for the really rare stuff.

Oh, so I can keep flying and find stuff further out? I thought I was limited to the islands I saw in my vicinity. I didnt check further cause I never enchanted and as such dont have silk touch or fortune 3 on anything to make sure I get the best bang for my buck.

And what grinder setup? Just want to make sure Im not missing any good machines I should be using. Im probably not getting the most out my ores atmn anyway

 

[unspunreality]

You will want to silk touch them, and you will want to use the gt grinder, the one that requires instalation on a framework of casings. These are the ones that are rare enough and worthwhile enough that you will want to go the extra mile to manafacture mercury for them (or sometimes sulfuric acid or mercuric acid or...)

Oh. The industrial grinder thing which requires the 9x9 of casings and what nots? Man. Seems like a big machine. All the 9x9 machines scare me. I made my coke coal oven and that was it cause the materials were easy. But hey, never got far without putting in effort. Hopefully the materials arent terrible.

 

[Chaos_Therum]

if your new to FTB I suggest watching direwolf20's FTB let's play season 5 I think

 

[noobbyte]

it's not 9x9, it's 3x3x3. different machines need different arrangements of casings (3 tiers)

 

[unspunreality]

You know what I meant. >.>

 

[noobbyte]

oh sorry thought you were just mistaken, lol

 

[unspunreality]

lso watching Direwolf's season 5. Already learned new stuff. Never knew about a sawmill. I feel like it wouldnt help me much anymore, but it would probably be nice since I may need more wood eventually.

 

[unspunreality]

I must ask. Should I build the 3x3x3 machines now? Blast Furnace and Industrial Grinder? What sort of power supplies should I have to power those machines? They seem so big and Im trying to figure out if I can even adquetly power them. I feel like Im wasting my ores now though and by god I want a T2 solar panel.

 

[unspunreality]

in order to get good use out of the fancy machines, you need two things.
1. A reason to use them. In the case of the grinder, if you are harvesting things from the end, this qualifies. For blast, you might just do the railcraft one first, but you'll need the higher tier materials eventually.
2. Power. You'll want to put a transformer for MV (128) right up against the machine to give it power, and back that with at least a MSU stored of power against it. Do not use gold cable, gold cable takes 1 of the 128 eu out of the packet, turning it into not enough voltage to run the machine properly.

Well my problem evolved into 'I need a mass fabricator. How do I power it' now. I want my damn T2 solar panel. Ill kill any creeper in my way to one. So far I just have slow power from a magma crucible/magmatic engines and 10 solar panels. Which.. is laughable power. I need to find a way to get more power, efficiently. Then make 2 of them cause a mass fab requires 1mil EU. @>@ My mfsu is connected to a MV and LV converter and I have like 9 machines already eating off that. So its just uugu.

 

[unspunreality]

Oh my god. You reminded me why I didnt farm in the end. I finally got my fortune 3 pickaxe.

And I can upgrade geothermals? Sweet.

I might work on that xycraft tank I always wanted cause they look cool.

Where I can house one in a mountain? No idea. But REMODEL TIME.

But is it possible to drain the nether? Im scared.

 

[unspunreality]

I'd say silktouch and grinder rather then fortune 3... but I'm picky like that.

Which grinder? I have a silk touch too. I dunno the most efficient way to get what ores I want with minimal waste.

 

[unspunreality]

The one I've been suggesting you work towards for the last 2 pages, give or take? The one that takes the casings and the 128 eu packets.

Edit: at least I think that's one of the ones that takes CONSTANT 128 and has no internal storage. This is a wiki check situation.

So the 3x3x3. Industrial Grinder. Gotcha. Ok. Need to figure out power supply. I can do this. Hopefully I even have enough material to make one.