Safe (No Vulgarity) Server Idea. Good or bad idea?

[Guswut]

Being a server admin is less the role of leader and more the role of .... well hes the cool guy that pays the bills and you hang out with.

Normally, the admin wears a LOT of hats. Most of the time, he is a cool guy that is off doing something. Sometimes, he has to put on the cop hat and banhammer someone who has stepped out of line (the internet makes it too easy to disassociate human reactions, sadly). Other times, the teacher/troubleshooter hat to assist people with stuff (because it is his server, so he's the one that has to help even if it is to tell them to look in NEI for the billionth time).

And, sometimes, yes: Leader. But that is rare, and non-existent when you have no members.

 

[raiju]

Making kids apply for position's with parents sounds like the next hit blockbuster for 12A audiences based off a book like hunger games.

 

[Saice]

Making kids apply for position's with parents sounds like the next hit blockbuster for 12A audiences based off a book like hunger games.

Enders game was much better book.

Hunger games just felt like Twilight meets Battle Royale.

 

[whizzball1]

I guess you are right. I won't direct their every move, I will give them a job and let them go through it in the way that works best for them. I want this to be a family-friendly community, and for that, it has to feel a bit free. Of course, city servers have their limits. But what I will ask for in applications is what they are good at. I will also look for qualities that they have, and how they make their applications. Are they rushing, do they want to be on this server to have fun and talk with others, or do they want to get on the server just so they can build. I need people who can communicate, people who can follow instructions, people who won't complain about every little thing. You guys are right. A city server needs to be a social server, too. Thanks guys. Now for aesthetic ideas. What are the most important buildings for a city, do you have any good themes for a city named "Haven of Light"? I was thinking around the lines of a futuristic LotR city. And it is Haven of Light, so I was thinking microblocks for some of the roads and lamps under then, to give the impression that the city itself shines bright as day. Any other ideas?
EDIT: So much ninja-ing around here. I can't get in a nice long post without getting flooded. Love this community, I do.

 

[Guswut]

Enders game was much better book.

Hunger games just felt like Twilight meets Battle Royale.

The Ender and Bean series are fairly awesome, indeed, even if Card's latest books are a bit subpar.

That aside, an Ender's Game server would be amusing. Now, to find a way to rig that up to work properly.

I guess you are right. I won't direct their every move, I will give them a job and let them go through it in the way that works best for them. I want this to be a family-friendly community, and for that, it has to feel a bit free. Of course, city servers have their limits. But what I will ask for in applications is what they are good at. I will also look for qualities that they have, and how they make their applications. Are they rushing, do they want to be on this server to have fun and talk with others, or do they want to get on the server just so they can build. I need people who can communicate, people who can follow instructions, people who won't complain about every little thing. You guys are right. A city server needs to be a social server, too. Thanks guys.

There you go, that is much better!

Now for aesthetic ideas. What are the most important buildings for a city

A centralized, easy to use transportation nexus (mystcraft, steve's cart, etc) that allows you to easily get to the public factory/machine area, spawners/grinder area, animal/plant farm area, and people's personal areas.

do you have any good themes for a city named "Haven of Light"?

An anti-theme: Do NOT use a lot of lamps, as overuse of lamps is fairly distasteful. Lamps as an accent would be good. Especially if you also had some non-inverted lamps set up to turn on automatically at night (use a light sensor for this).

 

[raiju]

I didn't read either, but watch hunger games for free. It wasn't bad for a feel good movie but it definitely felt a bit too comical for my tastes with the weird outfits. I had the horror of watching the first twilight being told it was an awesome vampire thing without reading, got severely bored wasting £10 in the cinema

About the whole leading thing, in almost all games I am the leader of my usual group of friends and just when generally chatting I'm the leader of the group somehow. That is rarely the case in minecraft though. When we were less capable I would often take the lead in vanilla going into a nether fortress, same with twilight forest hills in FTB. For most of the game though.. people like to do what they want. People will take interest in different mods especially.

Yes the posts are streaming in! /edit, I think metals and glass with lots of light will be good yes. Lot's of arches and curves is cool too. Maybe domes and some mosaics/murals?

This is by one of my favourite vanilla builders:
http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/the-cathedral-at-new-eden/
it might give you some ideas

 

[Guswut]

I didn't read either, but watch hunger games for free. It wasn't bad for a feel good movie but it definitely felt a bit too comical for my tastes with the weird outfits. I had the horror of watching the first twilight being told it was an awesome vampire thing without reading, got severely bored wasting £10 in the cinema

I read all of the Twilight books, Hunger Game books, and Ender/Bean books, and I must say that, if you can find the time to, reading the Ender series is a worthy investment in entertainment value. The Hunger Game first book was a bit better than the movie, but they go downhill from there. And I've never watched the Twilight movies as I can stand reading horrible books, but I can barely stand watching decent movies, let alone something in that section of horridness. And it isn't over the top into good, such as some of the really horrible movies out there.

About the whole leading thing, in almost all games I am the leader of my usual group of friends and just when generally chatting I'm the leader of the group somehow. That is rarely the case in minecraft though. When we were less capable I would often take the lead in vanilla going into a nether fortress, same with twilight forest hills in FTB. For most of the game though.. people like to do what they want. People will take interest in different mods especially.

In small groups, leadership is usually something that happens as needed, based upon the qualifications of the person in regards to the current situation. In a poorly run small group, you'll have two "alpha" personality types that decide they both want to be leader, and that usually ends in rulers and urine.

As groups get larger, having a dedicated leader starts to make more and more sense as the amount of administrative processing becomes that much larger each new member joins the fold.

Most MineCraft servers are well under that value, though (between 25 to 150. Dunbar's number deals with this concept as well, so feel free to read up on it).

 

[whizzball1]

What I meant was, the Lights would be under microblocks. That way, you won't see any lamps, but you would think "Woah! How the heck is this city lit up without any lamps?" Haven of Light, the shining city! Literally shining. As in, lamps under microblocks everywhere. Building walls and floors/ceiling could be 3 blocks thick to accommodate for the hidden lamps that make the city live up to its name.
EDIT: Also, the city will have 17 slots, one for me and 16 for the others.

 

[Guswut]

What I meant was, the Lights would be under microblocks. That way, you won't see any lamps, but you would think "Woah! How the heck is this city lit up without any lamps?" Haven of Light, the shining city! Literally shining. As in, lamps under microblocks everywhere. Building walls and floors/ceiling could be 3 blocks thick to accommodate for the hidden lamps that make the city live up to its name.

Mm, it could work. Give it a shot, and tell us how it works. A few creative-made screenshots might be useful to add to a server post after you get a server setup to give people some interest.

That is another point: What gamemode? Creative? Survival? Survival but with admin-spawned stuff at times? Buying stuff from the admin store? Etc.

Think these through, and pick survival (no spawned stuff) if you are unsure. You can always go upwards, but going downwards is MUCH harder.

 

[raiju]

I will probably read up on Dunbar's number as leadership is something that perplexes me to this day (I feel I cannot lead but other people claim otherwise, I hate being a leader but always end up leading, etc.)

I'll probably pass on the books I don't read that much fiction and I haven't since er.. Probably I read Eragon or Magus Wylde series' (didn't ever pick up the third eragon or the 6th magus wylde tbf). Not sure what happened. I really enjoyed reading when younger but my interest waned and now i'd prefer to watch a good drama than read.

I would recommend wrath lamps if I haven't already. Easy way to make places very bright without too much "lighting"

 

[whizzball1]

I have picked survival. We will be making the entire city on Survival. Unobtainable blocks will be spawned in, at the cost of a diamond or two. Maybe a different expensive item, considering diamonds have been made more abundant.

 

[raiju]

Emeralds or diamonds are usually your best bet as no matter what mod people are using most of, it's universally levels between "some effort to start getting loads of" and the usual rarity that is in TE worldgen.

Noone on my server really abuses villagers taht much so emeralds would be best, but I know it's popular for some so your mileage may very.

 

[whizzball1]

But once we really get in, diamonds will be abundant. I need something to throw away during the end-game stage. Not a gravisuite or uu-matter, gravisuits are too expensive and uu-matter pretty cheap later in-game.

 

[raiju]

surely you could change? Anything can be renewable, but late game if people use solar or nuclear you are probably going to be short on uranium as it's the only thing I know of you would use that you can't get from UU or very easy renewable materials.

Diamond Ore blocks? That'd be a fun one.

 

[Guswut]

But once we really get in, diamonds will be abundant. I need something to throw away during the end-game stage. Not a gravisuite or uu-matter, gravisuits are too expensive and uu-matter pretty cheap later in-game.

Why not let people use a single piece of UU matter to become any unobtainable block? Also, what blocks are unobtainable that you think people should be able to get? Maybe make a list of those first, to see how to set them up.

 

[whizzball1]

There are ways to get your portal gun to pick up items and drop them as items. I don't know how, but it's been done.[DOUBLEPOST=1361921639][/DOUBLEPOST]

Why not let people use a single piece of UU matter to become any unobtainable block? Also, what blocks are unobtainable that you think people should be able to get? Maybe make a list of those first, to see how to set them up.

Smokestacks are unobtainable, and would help in an LotR style city. There is the combined double slab block, the one that is a full double slab thing. Also unobtainable, and very useful for aesthetics. Unobtainable blocks mean aesthetic ones for the city.

 

[raiju]

There are ways to get your portal gun to pick up items and drop them as items.

You can also silk touch it very easily even from fairly early game - but it's not going to be quarried or miner'd. Can turtles use silk touch?

 

[Guswut]

Smokestacks are unobtainable, and would help in an LotR style city. There is the combined double slab block, the one that is a full double slab thing. Also unobtainable, and very useful for aesthetics. Unobtainable blocks mean aesthetic ones for the city.

You can get smokestacks (assuming we are talking about the Twilight Forest ones) from the Twilight Forest in fire/lava swamps. They are a bit uncommon, but hunting them down is part of the fun. And the lava gusher blocks are awesome, as well, even if they eat lava source blocks.

 

[raiju]

Need one of dem EE2 lava amulets to constantly deploy lava under them for infinite lava plumes.

*just for aesthetics*

 

[Guswut]

Need one of dem EE2 lava amulets to constantly deploy lava under them for infinite lava plumes.

*just for aesthetics*

On mine, for my volcano, I've got a turtle that constantly deploys lava whenever he does not detect a block in front of him. Turtles are good, friendly little guys. If I redo it ever, though, I will likely replace the system with a few liquid tesseracts most likely as they would not require ender chests then.