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RavynousHunter

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Ftfy. Imo, the only thing stopping a Minecraft-clone is the name "Minecraft" and the people who would stick to the original because they already paid for it.
There are tonnes of Minecraft clones. The problem isn't the name or that people are sticking with the original, its that almost all the alternatives are complete shite that are blatantly ripping off Minecraft...which itself is a blatant ripoff of Infiniminer, but that's another story. If you want a good "Minecraft-like" game, you need to break out of the mold of what Mojang's done and create an actual, superior product. I'll just leave this here: it is possible to have Minecraft without the cubes. Its just a matter of putting in the effort.
 

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There are tonnes of Minecraft clones. The problem isn't the name or that people are sticking with the original, its that almost all the alternatives are complete shite that are blatantly ripping off Minecraft...which itself is a blatant ripoff of Infiniminer, but that's another story. If you want a good "Minecraft-like" game, you need to break out of the mold of what Mojang's done and create an actual, superior product. I'll just leave this here: it is possible to have Minecraft without the cubes. Its just a matter of putting in the effort.

Yah there already is a minecraft without the cubes. It's not that good.
Besides The simple foundation of MC is one of it's pluses.
 

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There are tonnes of Minecraft clones. The problem isn't the name or that people are sticking with the original, its that almost all the alternatives are complete shite that are blatantly ripping off Minecraft...which itself is a blatant ripoff of Infiniminer, but that's another story. If you want a good "Minecraft-like" game, you need to break out of the mold of what Mojang's done and create an actual, superior product. I'll just leave this here: it is possible to have Minecraft without the cubes. Its just a matter of putting in the effort.
I've seen a few good clones, or at least clones that have potential. The problem is, since they have little to no support and they're generally free, there's no community, few contributors, which causes little to no motivation amongst the developers.
 
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I think it's not worth the trouble to include a change like this into Forge. And that's also not what Forge was made for.
Cubic chunks is a mod. A complex mod but a mod non the less. And forge was created to let mods play nice with one another.
 

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I won't qualify Minetest as no community, few contributors. If there is one minecraft clone that could make it, it might be this one.
 

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Yah there already is a minecraft without the cubes. It's not that good.
Besides The simple foundation of MC is one of it's pluses.
Again, its a matter of actually putting forth the effort in the right areas, sounds like whoever made the game about which you speak didn't do that. I've had an idea for what would basically be a hybrid of Minecraft (with the building, and reforming the world as you see fit) and a few other things, particularly RotaryCraft (as one of the tech eras), D&D (in that levels and experience actually DO something), and with fully-customizable (on a per-world basis) rules like gravity, damage from excessive heat (which spreads via convection), damage from excessive cold, and so on. The world would also be HUGE, as in you'd be able to comfortably fit a dozen suns inside its maximum volume, and in ALL directions, so you could theoretically build all the way to space. All of this with a procedurally-generated world that'd look more like...between Morrowind and Oblivion, and less like Minecraft.
 

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Again, its a matter of actually putting forth the effort in the right areas, sounds like whoever made the game about which you speak didn't do that. I've had an idea for what would basically be a hybrid of Minecraft (with the building, and reforming the world as you see fit) and a few other things, particularly RotaryCraft (as one of the tech eras), D&D (in that levels and experience actually DO something), and with fully-customizable (on a per-world basis) rules like gravity, damage from excessive heat (which spreads via convection), damage from excessive cold, and so on. The world would also be HUGE, as in you'd be able to comfortably fit a dozen suns inside its maximum volume, and in ALL directions, so you could theoretically build all the way to space. All of this with a procedurally-generated world that'd look more like...between Morrowind and Oblivion, and less like Minecraft.
Umm... The sheer amount of manpower that would be needed to create that...
 

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Cubic chunks is a mod. A complex mod but a mod non the less. And forge was created to let mods play nice with one another.
That mod requires a rewrite of a substantial amount of code. It would require a rewrite of chunks of Forge to be able to support it. There are some mods that cannot be supported by Forge for different reasons, and that is one of those mods.
 
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RavynousHunter

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Umm... The sheer amount of manpower that would be needed to create that...
There are already engines that do it, here's proof, its just a matter of gearing them for what you want. Oh, and the engine's demo worked perfectly fine on my old laptop. My old laptop that could barely run most modpacks. Believe me, I've done the legwork, I know its doable and in an efficient manner. The system reqs may be a little higher than Minecraft, but honestly, it'll run better because almost anyone is better at making a game run smoothly than Mojang.

Children, don't you doubt your elders. I've been doing this shit for 13 years, so don't you make me get the belt.
 

pancakemaster24

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There are already engines that do it, here's proof, its just a matter of gearing them for what you want. Oh, and the engine's demo worked perfectly fine on my old laptop. My old laptop that could barely run most modpacks. Believe me, I've done the legwork, I know its doable and in an efficient manner. The system reqs may be a little higher than Minecraft, but honestly, it'll run better because almost anyone is better at making a game run smoothly than Mojang.

Children, don't you doubt your elders. I've been doing this shit for 13 years, so don't you make me get the belt.
Imagine someone made a minecraft clone using this engine and it was compatible with forge. That would be a great day even though it is probably impossible. Only reason this would be possible is if every mod used NOVA.
 

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Imagine someone made a minecraft clone using this engine and it was compatible with forge. That would be a great day even though it is probably impossible. Only reason this would be possible is if every mod used NOVA.
Well, one could create a MC clone with the exact same method and class names.
 

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
Cubic chunks is a mod. A complex mod but a mod non the less. And forge was created to let mods play nice with one another.
Yes- mods which add pretty blocks and items to the game, not mods that remap large parts of the game's lighting engine and internal workings.
Likewise the hooks and functionality provided by forge are not designed for this kind of modding, so the API is pretty much useless here.
(source: TallWorlds mod)

Edit- and I'm an idiot who missed a whole page of replies. Sorry mate :)
 
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