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Furious1964

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Have another question...how do I turn off the machines? Do I have to break the wire or can I link the hv cable into some sort of power switch to turn off the 32 Industrial Electrolysers all at the same time?

EDIT: And yet another question: How do I pump the water faster? Is it normal for the water to go into the Industrial Electrolysers slowly?
 

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Hook up more output valves to your water tank then merge them into one line. You need like 5 output valves to keep up with the electrolyzers.

If you have your production line cordoned off with transformers, a lever will cut off the connection by reversing the transformer. Doing so can be annoying when you have a transformer wall as well as creating a power loop or blowing up machines/cable by up-stepping in that loop. I would only recommend this if you're running a 8192/t with HV transformers as section gates. You could also use a splitter cable if running at HV, but I find it easier to just pop the cable.
 

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Remember that wire has a maximum EU/p rating. Also keep in mind that the output side of an MFSU can only supply one 512EU packet every tick. This means that if your energy demands are 600 EU/t, you need two MFSU's connected in parallel, capable of produce 2x512EU packets per tick or 1024 EU/t.

The same goes for transformers. The -higher- voltage side of a transformer can only output one of its high voltage packet per tick. Same goes for the -lower- voltage sides. Just that you have 5 of them, so you are capable of outputting 5 times as many -LV- packets per transformer.

If you want to see how much EU your centrifuge is using, go to creative and attach it to a quantum generator (with the appropriate EU/t). Use an EU-reader to see. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head and I only just started using transformer upgrades. I think those upgrades only allow you to input more than 32 EU/t, while not necessarily increasing its consumption (without overclockers).
 

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Solved my water problem by adding a second tank and using more Liquiducts, but have another: Can't power all of the 120 Industrial Centrifuges needed to produce Deuterium. I'm using HV Cabling, it this the right one? Should I just pump all the power into an Inter-Dimensional Storage Unit or AESU?
 

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The centrifuges only consume 5 eu/t, but all 120 consume 700eu/t. I'd guess you're only using one MFSU up the line for them, or the HV cabling is causing serious transmission losses. Either up the number of parallel MFSUs or switch to glass with a transformer in front of it.
 

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Not using OC anymore. Rebuilt with only transformer upgrades and a lithium battery upgrade. Using Superconductive Wire now solved the power issue, but I want to know how I can extract pure EU from the reactor. I know it produces Helium Plasma for the Plasma Generators, but does the Fusion Reactor also produce usable EU? Is there a way to capture/store it?
 

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Not using OC anymore. Rebuilt with only transformer upgrades and a lithium battery upgrade. Using Superconductive Wire now solved the power issue, but I want to know how I can extract pure EU from the reactor. I know it produces Helium Plasma for the Plasma Generators, but does the Fusion Reactor also produce usable EU? Is there a way to capture/store it?

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Furious1964

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Trying to get the power fully changed, but only filling it 3/4 of the way. What so I need to do to get the power bar all the way to the right?
 

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You don't need to for now.

If you want to for some reason, add more energy injectors
 

Furious1964

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You don't need to for now.

If you want to for some reason, add more energy injectors

What about adding more Plasma Generators to the ones already in the Reactor?

EDIT: Solved it by adding more Plasma Generators for a total of 24. Reactor Station is now full Self-Sustaining and keeps on producing excess Deuterium, Tritium and Helium Plasma.

Also added 16 more Industrial Centrifuges to produce more Deuterium and Tritium, plus a Recycler/Igneous Extruder set-up hooked to a Matter Fabricator for UU Matter.

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Quick Update: Tested with Overclockers (2 for the Deuterium Production and 1 for the Tritium Production) and it's still possible to have a very good supply of Helium Plasma made to power the Plasma Generators.
 

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copy&paste from another reactor thread that I replied to:


The main recipe is deuterium + tritium cells which produces 1 helium plasma cell. The process takes 128 ticks and the cell can be turned into 8192k EU in a plasma generator, so this gives you 64000 EU/t. (requires 31.25 plasma generators)
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TLDR: use 30 electrolyzers without OCs and 18 centrifuges with 3 OCs each (will require HV so you will need to use some transformer upgrades)

Ok, so, please correct me if I'm wrong, but, as long as I can keep the machines and reactor powered (I have some plasma from manual cycles, should be enough) I can use 18 centrifuges, 3 OC's each (and some transformers) using 3 for deuterium to tritium, and 30 electrolyzers, no upgrades, I can keep up with the consumption? Using routers and superconductors from IDSU's to run machines.

Would this work? I don't have very much power right now, and saving plasma to actually get it started and running.
 

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Ok, so, please correct me if I'm wrong, but, as long as I can keep the machines and reactor powered (I have some plasma from manual cycles, should be enough) I can use 18 centrifuges, 3 OC's each (and some transformers) using 3 for deuterium to tritium, and 30 electrolyzers, no upgrades, I can keep up with the consumption? Using routers and superconductors from IDSU's to run machines.

Would this work? I don't have very much power right now, and saving plasma to actually get it started and running.

You need at least 144 Industrial Centrifuges and 32 Industrial Electrolysers. Will test that.
 

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So far...it looks good and keeps up. Will have to test more to start making a surplus, but it does make a ton of Helium Plasma.
 

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Hmmm.... Cant seem to satisfy the machines power costs, even with up to 5 IDSU's for 30 unupgraded electrolyzers (except for transformer upgrades)
 

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Hmmm.... Cant seem to satisfy the machines power costs, even with up to 5 IDSU's for 30 unupgraded electrolyzers (except for transformer upgrades)

That's because you don't have enough Plasma Generators. I'm running your set-up with 43 Plasma Generators (18 for the machines, 1 for the Matter Fabricator and 24 for the Fusion Reactor which are connected to the Energy Injectors by 4x insulated HV Cable. Supplies more then enough power to everything and it's "Set and Forget". You have to have 16 Injectors for the Reactor to get fully charged.
 

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That's because you don't have enough Plasma Generators. I'm running your set-up with 43 Plasma Generators (18 for the machines, 1 for the Matter Fabricator and 24 for the Fusion Reactor which are connected to the Energy Injectors by 4x insulated HV Cable. Supplies more then enough power to everything and it's "Set and Forget". You have to have 16 Injectors for the Reactor to get fully charged.
No, I got it working. 8 energy injectors (I only need 6 to be able to use all recipes, but I want a bit of spare power just in case) 10 plasma generators (which leaves a ton of extra plasma in case you need more power) 32 electrolyzers fed by 20 aqueous accumulators with transformer upgrades - all the way to EV. The electrolyzers are each connected to their own AESU at max output. 18 centrifuges with 3 over lockers and 2 red, 1 blue transformer upgrade each. 3 are for deuterium to tritium, 15 for hydrogen to deuterium. One AESU for every 5 centrifuges works, the deuterium to tritium ones are on one line. I had to hook up a small redpower system to, every minute or so, switch between sending deuterium to the tank for the reactor or to the centrifuges for tritium, otherwise I would get a buildup of either deuterium or tritium, and barely enough of the other.

Summary:
20 aqueous accumulators feeding 32 electrolyzers. (1 red 1 blue transformer upgrade) 1 AESU at max power for every 10-11 electrolyzers.
15 centrifuges for hydrogen to deuterium. (3 OC's, 2 red, 1 blue transformer each) 1 AESU at max power for every 5 centrifuges.
3 centrifuges for deuterium to tritium. (Same upgrades as above) 1 AESU at max power. Note: Unless you add a balancer to stop producing tritium for a period, and send all deuterium to the reactor, you will get extra tritium and not enough/barely enough deuterium to run.

Self-sufficiency achieved.