Actually, there is no reason not to use export busses. One bus handles up to 8 ore types in the queue, feed multiple busses into the same router hooked up to a wall of furnaces. Even if you backlog, it will just hold the extra ores in your storage until there is free processing room. The only issue you might have is if even over an extended period of time you are bringing in more ore than you can process, but at that point why are you even bringing in that much ore? If you cant even process it with 100% furnace utilization, doing it on demand and going below 100% is just going to make the backlog worse.
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Actually, there is no reason not to use export busses. One bus handles up to 8 ore types in the queue, feed multiple busses into the same router hooked up to a wall of furnaces. Even if you backlog, it will just hold the extra ores in your storage until there is free processing room. The only issue you might have is if even over an extended period of time you are bringing in more ore than you can process, but at that point why are you even bringing in that much ore? If you cant even process it with 100% furnace utilization, doing it on demand and going below 100% is just going to make the backlog worse.
Routers. You love them. I know that. So I tried them with AE. Now I love them, too.
The way I (will soon) handle my mined ores:
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Where X* are Export Busses and Y is a single Import Bus. P are TE Pulverizers and F are TE Powered Furnaces. The nice thing about this is, that I can utilize a "machine upgrade" to tell the "export" (entrance) router to only visit the "machine.pulverizer" and the "import" (exit) router to only visit "machine.furnace"
Set the Pulverizers to "blue input on top", "orange(both slots) output on bottom" and have the router "insert into top sides". This way, my Export Bus inserts into the router, which visits all pulverizers and those begin to grind down the ores to dust. The dust then is output to the bottom side, where it just so happens to find my powered furnace, waiting for input from the (blue) top side;they have their output set to "orange(both slots) bottom side". Dust comes in and gets processed into an ingot. The ingots then get "extracted from bottom sides" by the "exit" router and continue on to the Import bus, returning ingots into my AE system. Only downside of this is: You cannot use the pulverizers solo - thus this is not able to process "silktouched" Redstone, Glowstone, Lapislazuli or Nikolite ore. But I can live with that. =)
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Y'know what.. I'll get screenshots. That explanation confuzzles even ME - and I built it.
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I'll leave the post intact, just add to it:
For this system, there is only one "Export bus" needed (DW20) as there are only 7 ores that can be 'pulverfurnace'd.
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This is what I have in my "workshop" so far.
And it works like a charm. <3
You can also put the importing router on the same side as the exporting one, which would save you some ME cables. But then you run into the issue of not having enough sides for export buses. I solve that problem with Gregtech's small electric buffers. I like that they only have one buffer slot, so I don't get gobs and gobs of ores backed up into a buffer that I can't see from a terminal. Obviously I pay more for energy this way, though, so a fusion reactor is in the planning stages!
Routers. You love them. I know that. So I tried them with AE. Now I love them, too.
Try switching from the import bus to an interface and put an ejector upgrade in your router. They are a bit cheaper on the power usage and materials than import busses, and doing it that way is actually just a bit faster.
Routers. You love them. I know that. So I tried them with AE. Now I love them, too.
The way I (will soon) handle my mined ores:
Front:
XX
XRPPPPP
XXFFFFFRY
Where X* are Export Busses and Y is a single Import Bus. P are TE Pulverizers and F are TE Powered Furnaces. The nice thing about this is, that I can utilize a "machine upgrade" to tell the "export" (entrance) router to only visit the "machine.pulverizer" and the "import" (exit) router to only visit "machine.furnace"
Set the Pulverizers to "blue input on top", "orange(both slots) output on bottom" and have the router "insert into top sides". This way, my Export Bus inserts into the router, which visits all pulverizers and those begin to grind down the ores to dust. The dust then is output to the bottom side, where it just so happens to find my powered furnace, waiting for input from the (blue) top side;they have their output set to "orange(both slots) bottom side". Dust comes in and gets processed into an ingot. The ingots then get "extracted from bottom sides" by the "exit" router and continue on to the Import bus, returning ingots into my AE system. Only downside of this is: You cannot use the pulverizers solo - thus this is not able to process "silktouched" Redstone, Glowstone, Lapislazuli or Nikolite ore. But I can live with that. =)
*=Why several Exports at once? Each one offers 8 slots for items - with 5 Exports, this can handle 40 different ores to process.See Edit.
Y'know what.. I'll get screenshots. That explanation confuzzles even ME - and I built it.
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I'll leave the post intact, just add to it:
For this system, there is only one "Export bus" needed (DW20) as there are only 7 ores that can be 'pulverfurnace'd.
[EDIT2]
This is what I have in my "workshop" so far.
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And it works like a charm. <3
THIS --------> "Set the Pulverizers to "blue input on top", "orange(both slots) output on bottom""
What happens to the secondary product (i.e. pulverized gold)? Does it go into the furnaces? Doesn't that clog the furnaces? or does it disappear?
EDIT: Found a less ideal solution was to add a 3rd router - one to extract the secondary output from the pulerizers. I am still interested in figuring out how Freakscar was handling the pulverizer's secondary output with only (2) total routers.
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The secondary output does indeed go into the furnace, once there's room. Say one of the Pulverizers is processing Copper Ore, and produces a Gold Dust as a byproduct. Since the attached Furnace is still cooking Copper, the Pulverizer can't shove the gold in. So, the Pulverizer holds onto the Gold and keeps running. When the Pulverizer runs out of Copper to process and is given up with some other ore instead (say Silver), it stops running until the Furnace finishes cooking down the Copper. Then Pulverizer can then dump in the Gold and start processing the Silver.
In short, since all pulverizable metal ores only produce metallic byproducts, it doesn't cause any problems, so don't worry about it. As an added bonus, you don't need any extra automation, either.
As they say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
If you wanted to try to be really efficient, you could dedicate one pulverizer and furnace to each different ore and, for example, redirect the gold byproduct from the copper pulverizer into the gold furnace- but that raises its own problems when you get more Iron Ore, say, than one pulverizer can handle, so you have a clogged sorting system and a half-dozen idle pulverizers.
I dub thee... Month of Necroposts!
Also I would either set the secondary product to go into another furnace or make it orange so it goes through after the gold is finished
Also I would either set the secondary product to go into another furnace or make it orange so it goes through after the gold is finished
If you want to massproduce something with AE fast, you can put ME Interface next to a chest. Then set it split the item stacks evenly using impulse-ducts and round-robin mode at the intersection points to factory devices.
So you could order like 10000 charcoal, and ME network would send 10000 wood to that chest, and that happens very fast as it can do it like 1 stack per tick. You can have as many furnaces as you like and they will all be processing your request at the same time then.
You can use multiple interfaces or precision export bus's to same chest aswell. Downside is that it won't be as fast as if interface was directly above a device. But this will handle multiple items and big requests much faster. Linked auto-crafting however uses always tiny requests that don't get benefit from this. That means, if you order it to make a 10000 solar panels, it doesn't understand to send thousands of copper bars to be extended to wires at the time, it sends them like 1 at the time. Only by manually requesting to craft the individual materials in masses works though.
Oh, this is why my other new thing to do is use level emitters to keep amount of common materials high. You can like tell Level emitter and export bus to keep Iron plate amount always at least at 1000. This has incredible effect in overall crafting speed.
So you could order like 10000 charcoal, and ME network would send 10000 wood to that chest, and that happens very fast as it can do it like 1 stack per tick. You can have as many furnaces as you like and they will all be processing your request at the same time then.
You can use multiple interfaces or precision export bus's to same chest aswell. Downside is that it won't be as fast as if interface was directly above a device. But this will handle multiple items and big requests much faster. Linked auto-crafting however uses always tiny requests that don't get benefit from this. That means, if you order it to make a 10000 solar panels, it doesn't understand to send thousands of copper bars to be extended to wires at the time, it sends them like 1 at the time. Only by manually requesting to craft the individual materials in masses works though.
Oh, this is why my other new thing to do is use level emitters to keep amount of common materials high. You can like tell Level emitter and export bus to keep Iron plate amount always at least at 1000. This has incredible effect in overall crafting speed.