Potential Plagiarism

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Strill

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I just noticed that the graphics for some items in a particular FTB mod are ripped straight from a 3rd party commercial game. Who should I give the details to?
 

RealSketch

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No-one, you haven't got any proof.
And besides, how do you know they are "ripped" from a game, permission may have been granted to use them.
 
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Strill

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No-one, you haven't got any proof.
And besides, how do you know they are "ripped" from a game, permission may have been granted to use them.
I just found a quote by the mod author saying he got all of his sprites from google image search and didn't make any himself. So yeah I pretty much have all the proof I need.
 

Middleclaw

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Not even that is proof. Not all the images found by Google are copyrighted. A lot of images that are found are, what is known as, royalty free. So unless you have hard proof to the specific images themselves, I doubt you have a leg to stand on.

Just my two pence
 

Strill

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Not even that is proof. Not all the images found by Google are copyrighted. A lot of images that are found are, what is known as, royalty free. So unless you have hard proof to the specific images themselves, I doubt you have a leg to stand on.
Hard proof as to what? I have proof that they're taken from another game and that they're not royalty free.
 

Feniks

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If you want to you can rapport it to the game owner that textures where taken from but as with most cases like this unless game owner chooses to pursue this then nothing else you can do. As to all leave it be bullshit. Don't leave it you don't need a proof to report anything to game owner. As long as you not going to start public topic with what you think you know you can report anything to parties involved.
 

YX33A

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Leave it alone. I used to mod for Morrowind and borrowing textures from games made things go a lot faster than if I had done everything from scratch.
While this is totally and utterly true, it can get you in shit if Beth catches wind and you don't either have permission or it's open source.
From another mod, mind you... Just have to deal with the community. And you know which is worse. But if it's code from another mod? How much shit does anyone but Epidemia78 think one'll get in for using a snippet, or even copping scripts wholesale(but renaming conditions and names to avoid conflicts with the other mod)? May as well just say "Anyone who is not currently nor has been a Member of the Bethesda Softworks Forums, because I know Epidemia78 and I aren't the only ones here.
Also, could you link me to where ever you uploaded your mods? This outlander may wish to go back there.
 
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wolfsilver00

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Man, i can't express what i feel for you because the rules don't allow me, but you should be ashamed, you enjoy free content and then you want to mess with the ppl that spent a lot of time of his life for your game? And its not like you want to help him because he could get a bad time, no, you are actually meaning to generate some bad stuff to someone you actually owe, that we, the ftb community, owe.

Get out of this forums if you came just to "report" someone.
 

ScottulusMaximus

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If you want to be a concerned citizen then let the original games developers know, you will be called a whiny #$%^and deservedly so tho... Has nothing to do with you and smacks of an issue you have with the modder for whatever reason. But go right ahead and cause trouble for someone who has given their work to you to enjoy for FREE just because they've borrowed a texture.
 

YX33A

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If you want to be a concerned citizen then let the original games developers know, you will be called a whiny #$%^and deservedly so tho... Has nothing to do with you and smacks of an issue you have with the modder for whatever reason. But go right ahead and cause trouble for someone who has given their work to you to enjoy for FREE just because they've borrowed a texture.
This makes sense... for Minecraft. Leave this bubble, and it's a legal issue that is serious. Or stay, and see how serious it can be. But then again, Minecraft is a odd game. Just don't think Mojang will turn a blind eye if they catch wind of stolen assets from other games.
 

Adonis0

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I'm kinda appalled at the attitudes coming up here, if it's a potential legal issue, it's a legal issue regardless of whether or not it's a free game using the stolen content. I absolutely hate the misinformation that art is easy and it doesn't matter because it's just a picture. That picture took time and effort to do, and the original artist should be credited for their work and/or paid for it as well unless they have explicitly stated that it's royalty free.

If the modder put so much effort into the mod, then they should have gone the little bit more to get legal assets for something that they're wanting to distribute.

I do agree with the statements saying take it to the original author of the artwork and leave it in their hands
 

HeilMewTwo

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I'm kinda appalled at the attitudes coming up here, if it's a potential legal issue, it's a legal issue regardless of whether or not it's a free game using the stolen content. I absolutely hate the misinformation that art is easy and it doesn't matter because it's just a picture. That picture took time and effort to do, and the original artist should be credited for their work and/or paid for it as well unless they have explicitly stated that it's royalty free.

If the modder put so much effort into the mod, then they should have gone the little bit more to get legal assets for something that they're wanting to distribute.

I do agree with the statements saying take it to the original author of the artwork and leave it in their hands

Agreed, the mod author should have of at least asked. (I am assuming he hasn't because of the earlier post saying he just found them on google images.)
This is a serious legal issue that can result in major fines, for those telling him to stop interfering, that is telling him to ignore a violation of law.
 

Siigari

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What the hell?

If someone is stealing somebody else's work, report it. Now the OP may or may not be flame bait but your guys reaction, as Adonis puts it, is appalling.

This is not a "think if you were in my shoes" game, because none of you have the accountability it takes, apparently. If you want to use somebody else's work you will ask them first. I remember back when I was modding Descent 2 I created a really cool level set with some custom weapons, namely a weapon called the Poi Beam. The group of gamers I was a part of caught wind that my weapons were being used in somebody else's level set. We tracked down the author and showed proof that the items created were indeed mine (back then it was using timestamped creation dates on original computers photographed with a camera and sent to the lawyer) and we won a lawsuit because the person was hosting the file for download for $5 each for the level set.

Being 16 at the time, I didn't really know what to do and I was miserable because I was still working on my level set and had only released it to a few people to test. So my parents helped me sue them. I was awarded $1000 against the defendant in court because they stole my work. Now here's the real question: do you want our modders who are working so hard to make us mods to stop modding because they got sued?

Didn't think so.
 
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