[Over] Werewolf: Firelight

[SpwnX]

You're misinterpreting me again. Anything you said is a lie to cover him.

Goreae is a penitent.
He has not turned to the church yet.
He has his power to kill.
He has been feeding you information (from pyure) since D2.
He can turn to the church at any given moment.
You have motives to extend the game as he is the last wolf.
Exedra is contributing to your victory as he is probably very frustated with pyure.

 

[Strikingwolf]

@Exedra was proven by @Gideonseymour saying "Sent" when he asked for role things from investigator

@Fraction2 is trying to make the church win, but he is not hiding the penitent

@SpwnX is legitimately concerned about the church.

 

[Strikingwolf]

You're misinterpreting me again. Anything you said is a lie to cover him.

Goreae is a penitent.
He has not turned to the church yet.
He has his power to kill.
He has been feeding you information (from pyure) since D2.
He can turn to the church at any given moment.
You have motives to extend the game as he is the last wolf.

That would be a good strategy. It would give the church the time they need to win

I'm convinced vote goreae

 

[SpwnX]

Exedra can be lying, so does Fraction2.

 

[goreae]

Pyure is a skeevy little bastard. He gave me a decent amount of information that turned out to be true. I told him my role because I thought I could trust him. He probably revealed me as the penitent to buy his team a day or two. I'm a follower. Always have been. Will be until the day that I'm brutally burned at the stake.

You're misinterpreting me again. Anything you said is a lie to cover him.

Goreae is a penitent.
He has not turned to the church yet.
He has his power to kill.
He has been feeding you information (from pyure) since D2.
He can turn to the church at any given moment.

Tell me, what good would it do exedra to lie about me being a wolf? Where would that get him? He's a villager. He wants the wolf dead just as much as us churchies do. So why the frak would he lie about my will? If I am a wolf that hasn't turned church yet, then what possible motive could he have for protecting me?

 

[Fraction2]

He has not turned to the church yet

Oh, this totally explains everything. That's why goreae's a follower, that's why he's in the church convo, and why he's been there the whole time.

The holes in your argument just keep mounting up. First it's goreae is the penitent in the church, we're hiding him. I answered.

Now you say he's a penitent that HASN'T joined the church. First, this is totally wrong, he's in the church. I had the SAME answer.

Next, the church wouldn't even accept a stranger. We would have a huge risk of being systematically murdered by the infiltrator.

Next:
Yesterday, SpwnX may have privately accused Brother goreae of being a penitent. This claim was backed up by the wolf, Pyure (curses upon his soul). Once Pyure said this, SpwnX publicly implied that he also knew before the big reveal. How would he have know goreae was a wolf? Some potential reasons include:
a. SpwnX is a great detective. But here, I'm afraid this "detective" work would be too implausible. goreae has done little to nothing all game, let alone anything wrong.
b. SpwnX has been working with the wolves. In this case, he is probably trying to distract you to allow the real wolf time to mourn its lost friends/develop a plan of action.
c. SpwnX is indeed a wolf, and wants to distract us while he does whatever wolves do.
Let's review that, since a. is unlikely, at best SpwnX is a traitor (probably a Spy or Vampire) assisting the wolves all game. At worst, he is indeed the last wolf. Oh, why has the mayor betrayed us?

 

[SpwnX]

Goreae needs to be alive for 2 nights for the church to win.
The church needs time to lynch the vampires (me and ljfa).
Goreae needs the church to win.
Exedra is just helping out of no personal interest, probably out of frustration with pyure.

 

[SpwnX]

I have worked with pyure since N1, i won't deny it.
I thought he was a villager. Guess who have also worked with him till now, Exedra.

 

[SpwnX]

You're still saying that he is a church member and follower. Have you not realized that anything you're saying as a "fact" is as valid as a lie?

You're misinterpreting me again. Anything you said is a lie to cover him.

Goreae is a penitent.
He has not turned to the church yet.
He has his power to kill.
He has been feeding you information (from pyure) since D2.
He can turn to the church at any given moment.
You have motives to extend the game as he is the last wolf.
Exedra is contributing to your victory as he is probably very frustated with pyure.

 

[SpwnX]

Btw, @Gideonseymour, you should make people die of severe blood loss/anemia when they're constantly targeted by vampires next time you add such role.

 

[Fraction2]

The difference is, Exedra has since attempted to find the last wolf, instead of following Pyure's last accusation.

Pyure, the man you lied to us all game, pretended to help us hunt wolves all game, suggested goreae is a wolf. Of course he's not going to reveal the last wolf to us, he can still win with that last wolf.

You're still saying that he is a church member and follower. Have you not realized that anything you're saying is as valid as a lie?

Almost anything said in werewolf is valid as a lie, that's the nature of the game. I don't have a way of proving it to you.

Anything you're saying could be valid, except it's not. The last wolf clearly hasn't joined the church, or even tried to. Otherwise 016Nojr would still be alive. goreae is part of the church, he is a follower (just like his will says), and I am entirely positive he is not, nor ever was (this game) a wolf.

 

[Strikingwolf]

Exedra can be lying,

Exedra asked why he didn't get his investigator things. Gideon then told him "Sent" in this thread. Thus exedra is proven

Goreae needs to be alive for 2 nights for the church to win.
The church needs time to lynch the vampires (me and ljfa).
Goreae needs the church to win.
Exedra is just helping out of no personal interest, probably out of frustration with pyure.

This is a valid strategy...

The difference is, Exedra has since attempted to find the last wolf, instead of following Pyure's last accusation.

Pyure, the man you lied to us all game, pretended to help us hunt wolves all game, suggested goreae is a wolf. Of course he's not going to reveal the last wolf to us, he can still win with that last wolf.

This also makes a lot of since...unless he knew Goreae was working with you and he wouldn't be able to win with him

Anything you're saying could be valid, except it's not. The last wolf clearly hasn't joined the church, or even tried to. Otherwise 016Nojr would still be alive. goreae is part of the church, he is a follower (just like his will says), and I am entirely positive he is not, nor ever was (this game) a wolf.

It is a valid theory. And lynching Goreae won't do much harm to us considering the amount of people left and that only one is a wolf

 

[Strikingwolf]

It is a valid theory. And lynching Goreae won't do much harm to us considering the amount of people left and that only one is a wolf

We could pretty much lynch people systematically and still win.

 

[Fraction2]

We could pretty much lynch people systematically and still win.

Ha, they said the same thing in FinalWolf. Systematically lynching doesn't work if the wolf is the one directing the lynch.

 

[SpwnX]

Just lynch goreae. If he turns out to be good i'll throw the towel and beg to be lynched. What about it?

 

[Strikingwolf]

Ha, they said the same thing in FinalWolf.

Well that was because the wolf was also the spy (most OP combo, wolf that can prove himself as another role)

Systematically lynching doesn't work if the wolf is the one directing the lynch.

Yes it can. If Goreae isn't a wolf. We then lynch the person who originally suggested to lynch goreae (SpwnX). Then repeat

Just lynch goreae. If he turns out to be good i'll throw the towel and beg to be lynched. What about it?

^
We lose nothing by doing this. We have enough people quasi-proven to win the game systematically

 

[Fraction2]

Even so, at this point I am entirely confident that SpwnX is not a vampire, and I still want him dead. That will end the game, and save Gideon the headache.

SpwnX, why not lynch you first? If you're right, the game won't end, and then you are free to lynch goreae.

 

[SpwnX]

That would be against my win condition as a vampire you silly. Read the rolesheet.

You're the only one that has to lose with my proposition and that is why you're refusing it furiously.

 

[Strikingwolf]

Even so, at this point I am entirely confident that SpwnX is not a vampire, and I still want him dead. That will end the game, and save Gideon the headache.

It won't end the game. As long as a wolf and a villager is alive the game won't end. You have to kill both the wolves and vampires, the villagers don't. I may be working with you, but I am not completely on your side

SpwnX, why not lynch you first? If you're right, the game won't end, and then you are free to lynch goreae.

If he is right or if he is wrong the game won't end. Reread the sheet

 

[Strikingwolf]

That would be against my win condition as a vampire you silly. Read the rolesheet.

You're the only one that has to lose with my proposition and that is why you're refusing it furiously.

^

All other villagers/vampires lynch goreae. Please, it will be for the best. Then if that is not right then we lynch SpwnX.