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Fraction2

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Is there any chance, any chance whatsoever, that one of Pyure, Goreae, Heil, or Dylan isn't actually a wolf?

I'm entirely positive goreae is not a wolf. I'm fairly confident dylan was and... well... Pyure is pyure.

I guess Heil isn't guaranteed. Trajing did say he drank from Pyure and Heil, and yet only died once. Maybe he wasn't a vampire?
 

SpwnX

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@Gideonseymour could you clarify this? (whether you have commited a slip or not in any way)
I questioned pyure about that too early and he said gideon could have possibly let that accidently slip. He could be lying of course though.
 

Fraction2

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Or trajing was lying and working with Pyure. Drinking from HeilMewTwo could have been a miscommunication?
 

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I guess Heil isn't guaranteed. Trajing did say he drank from Pyure and Heil, and yet only died once. Maybe he wasn't a vampire?
Bingo, ya jerk.

I've been wondering about Pyure. When has any wolf, ever, in the history of this game, admitted in bold red text that he was the wolf before he was 100% certain he had no chance to live? How could trajing have lived by drinking Pyure's blood on the first night? How could Pyure, the Forger, have forged his own will on the night of his death? Why were no wills revealed when Pyure, the Forger, died?

New theory: Pyure wasn't the Forger at all. He was a Spy.
 

SpwnX

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Pyure said:
Trajing: "My role and my key are the same, in my key my role is hidden. This key is generated via md5 with my role's name as the source string. The key is as follows:
41ad87cfc159526f62529db61162a2a7"

Pyure: "oh bleeding christ, I have no idea what any of that means."

Trajing: "I'm being cryptic."

Trajing: "Okay. I'm telling you my role.
I've decided I'm firmly on the side of the villagers. I'm the Vampire. The reason I waited until the middleman was dead was because I don't want to worry about a second person knowing my role and me not being in contact with them to judge what they say.
So, it's your decision now. I place myself firmly on the side of the Village. And I'm going for the "stay alive" win method, not the "kill the church" win method. It's too hard to win by killing others when you don't have anything to kill people with. Sucking blood is nonlethal, except for me.
As a matter of fact, I'll log who I've proven innocent in my will. I'll then copy it over to you. One second."

Pyure: "Hah nice, did you legitimately drink us in that order? Did you know you can repeat-drink the same person?" { TESTING }

Trajing: "Yes and yes. I'm using it as a method for proving people innocent." { BULLSHIT, YOU CANT DRINK MY BLOOD AND SURVIVE BITCH }

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Pyure: "bla blah.

You're the spy. In a couple days you're going to need to choose whose side you're on. I can't promise I can work things out for your victory by then, but I can do it now." {IF HE HAD AGREED, ID HAVE TO CONSIDER SELLING OUT VAMPIRES }


Trajing: "I'll give multiple people alternate versions of the key containing the name of the person I gave it to instead of my role name.
Should I die, you'll be the only person who knows how to find out who changed my will. Run the resulting key through this, and it'll contain a keyword which I'd have told you designates that person."

Trajing: "Poke means Eruantien.
And if you're convinced I'm the Spy, I don't mind, I'm still doing this plan. No real reason other than "but vampire is actually my role!", so I won't give one.
And I'm going to side with the villagers."

Trajing: "Dawn means SpwnX."

Trajing: "It's an interesting strategy I wanted to try out.
Also using an encoded key is a good idea. If I include a phrase to denote who it is, it becomes too obvious. An encoded key, only the people I give them too will look too closely at them, and by the time of my death, it's too late to find out that I gave them the wrong one. If the idea is to manipulate the village into lynching me and then forging my will so that it looks like I'm a wolf, you can find out that it wasn't actually me.
Again, if you think you've found out my real role, go on with it. If Eru or SpwnX aren't wolves, I'll probably be wolfkilled instead of lynched. I just ask that you check that the key in my role is the same just in case Eru or SpwnX are wolves.
And also, cryptography is fun."

Pyure: "trajing you need to understand that I don't follow any of this md5 stuff. I realize its fun for you but I'm never actually going to pursue it.
I believe I've identified your real role. Since our interests apparently coincide at this time I'm gonna leave it at that for now."
 

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Slight rule clarification: The Penitent will prevent the villagers from winning, no matter what team he/she is on.
@Gideonseymour could you clarify this? (whether you have commited a slip or not in any way)
I questioned pyure about that too early and he said gideon could have possibly let that accidently slip. He could be lying of course though.
I have committed a slip. >.>

This game is too much for me to handle anymore.
 

SpwnX

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The forger has a 50% chance of revealing his edited wills. We play dice and doubt again.
 

Fraction2

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Alright, trajing was indeed a vampire, which means Heil was most likely a wolf. Pyure was also a wolf.

That leaves us knowing barely any more than we knew at the beginning of the day
 

Shazam08

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Alright, trajing was indeed a vampire, which means Heil was most likely a wolf. Pyure was also a wolf.

That leaves us knowing barely any more than we knew at the beginning of the day
Still clutching my tinfoil hat over here.

If trajing was indeed a vampire, and his will was unaltered, then Pyure physically could not be a wolf due to the first night drinkage. Did you get more evidence in the intermission?
 

SpwnX

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Gideon's slip commentary a few posts above.

Anyone know anything about vikestep, btw?
 

Shazam08

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Gideon's slip commentary a few posts above.

Anyone know anything about vikestep, btw?
For those of us with partially decayed brains, could you explain the significance of Gid's slip?

Speaking of partially decayed brains, I talked to him in the dead convo. He wouldn't give me a straight answer as to his role. When I tried to guess, I got something to the effect of "You can't judge me by my words" and was sort of baffled from there. He claimed that he wasn't part of the village, at least, and I'm fairly certain he wasn't a wolf.
 

SpwnX

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He could be the spy if we go by that. Doubt he would be a vampire or a church member.

@Gideonseymour stop dilly dailing and give pc_assassin's will if he is out of the game.
 

SpwnX

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By the way... your team is too big Fraction2.

How come you have 5 church members (1 deceased) when we did not even have 4 wolves revealed?

SoraZodia, RJS, Fraction2, the_J and goreae. Something is off there. You're covering a wolf, that must be it.

Also its very possible for exedra to be working together with you and covering the wolf too, saying that goreae is a follower.
 

SpwnX

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Says the one that initially designed it. Its your own fault for not considering the sheer amount of possibilities given that roles can be easily tricked and deceived here and there.
 
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Fraction2

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Then what killed Nojr?

My team isn't to big, this is exactly how it started. How would you even now how big it was to start?

Exedra is working with us to uncover wolves, much like Striking is. Why would he want to cover the penitent ( who has shown themselves yet )

The church actually has a difficult task, not only killing the wolves, but also eliminating vampires. The numbers are important for balance near the end of the game (now)

All of your little quasi-arguments being thrown out leads me to believe that you are deflecting suspicion away from yourself, instead of trying to find a real target and end the game. Could that be because you don't want the game to end? Because you are the missing wolf?

I'd like to reinforce once of my previous statements,

Vote SpwnX. I encourage everyone to follow suit.
 

SpwnX

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Goreae did Fraction2. He is not the follower yet. He is the penitent. Exedra is working with you to cover him up so you can lynch the vampires and win the game.
Its obvious that YOU don't want the game to end this night, since it would incur in a loss of the church, as there are vampires alive.

You're just playing puppet master, as i knew since the start of the game.
 

Fraction2

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Except... goreae is in the church convo. He is a follower, and has always been. That's a fact.

You, on the other hand, were obviously working with Pyure. He wouldn't have trusted a "vampire." It's clearly a role anybody could have claimed. Either you're the Spy, and you've edited your own will and player B's, or Player B is the spy and edited your will and their own.

Player B is either playerismc or ljfa.

Even if the penitent had turned to the church this turn, he/she would have lost the ability to kill. They lost the power to kill once they turn to the church, regardless of whether or not they were accepted.
Go read the rolesheet.
Two facts:
1. goreae is part of the church.
2. The penitent could not have joined the church.

ergo, goreae is not the penitent.