OP-ness Verification
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Jugle trees give more wood than oak, Jugle OP, plz Nerf
My mother ass is bigged than my couch, ass OP, plz, for god sakes, NERF.
God retribution can ohk me, god Op, plz NERF.
Stupid posts about op'ness everywhere, op'ness posters Op, plz NERF.[DOUBLEPOST=1366712947][/DOUBLEPOST]
Optifine=Run MC fast! = Not always, it depends a LOT in your mods behaviour... For example, in a plain with no weird textures (like redstone conduits, for example) there is a + 10/15 fps for almost everybody.. But in your house with every kind of engine and pipe in existence rendering, Optifine just goes mad.. and it may lower your fps for 5/10... what im trying to say?
Textures blow up my fps, textures Op, plz nerf.
My mother ass is bigged than my couch, ass OP, plz, for god sakes, NERF.
God retribution can ohk me, god Op, plz NERF.
Stupid posts about op'ness everywhere, op'ness posters Op, plz NERF.[DOUBLEPOST=1366712947][/DOUBLEPOST]
Oh.
Thought it saved it per-world, but what do I know?
Optifine=Run MC fast!
Optifine=Run MC fast! = Not always, it depends a LOT in your mods behaviour... For example, in a plain with no weird textures (like redstone conduits, for example) there is a + 10/15 fps for almost everybody.. But in your house with every kind of engine and pipe in existence rendering, Optifine just goes mad.. and it may lower your fps for 5/10... what im trying to say?
Textures blow up my fps, textures Op, plz nerf.
The OP-ness of only a small handful of mods and usually only a tiny portion of what the mod does gets under my skin, as well..
But I've learned to live with it! Our server is never going to have a fair balanced economy; The "mod cocktail" is too unstable for that.
So If you just let go of your need for everyone else to be on equal footing with you, you can play any way you want to! Don't like block breakers? Don't use them!
My users enjoy making a giant frame mover with block breakers, I think that's OP.. So I don't build it, but that's no reason they can't!
That is the approach I've taken, but I've run into another barrier: My user base fights mods that make things LESS OP or more difficult, such as GregTech.
Oh well, what can ya do?
But I've learned to live with it! Our server is never going to have a fair balanced economy; The "mod cocktail" is too unstable for that.
So If you just let go of your need for everyone else to be on equal footing with you, you can play any way you want to! Don't like block breakers? Don't use them!
My users enjoy making a giant frame mover with block breakers, I think that's OP.. So I don't build it, but that's no reason they can't!
That is the approach I've taken, but I've run into another barrier: My user base fights mods that make things LESS OP or more difficult, such as GregTech.
Oh well, what can ya do?
Those were his own machines he changed. Mixed metal ingots actually became cheaper and don't need railcraft stuff any more to make.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
Tell them about the easier options that come with GT (sapphire lapatrons are awesome- all the ingredients stack!!)
You could also tone down some of the INSANE options with a custom config- steel tools, but no titanium-diamond drill. Half the power needed for UU matter.
I my own opinion- if you're willing to put the effort in early, GT can make it a lot easier later on (fast ore tripling, crazy amounts of iron in the nether, boosted geothermals, gas turbines and zombie power- my mate built an awesome self powered enchanter with Minefactory, 4 centrifuges and the zombie meat byproduct from the pigmen)Play up the positive aspects of the mod (such as the alternate recipes for things like circuits and assembly table chipsets) and the long-term benefits of the more advanced machinery. I personally think that Gregtech is an awesome mod; a lot of people seem to be dead-set against it simply because of the high resource requirements but I think that it's so easy to amass mountains of resources in FTB these days (particularly in Ultimate) that it benefits my game experience to have something to actually use those resources for .. otherwise, what's the point in having/getting 'em?
Personal opinion, of course.
Ignorant Scum; people are allowed to have their own opinions. Oh and the "Get a life" comment truly shows your age.
- I guess, Although you'd have to move it about for every single block, Just change it to a diamond pick in the recipe, Or make it able to break only blocks an iron one can
- Gregtech is overpriced so it doesn't matter,As a matter of fact this "Greg" fellow can suck my non existent- (Censored)
- Oh no he made a staircase! Whatever shall we do!
- I dunno, From my minimal understanding of thaumcraft, You would create flux, So that would be bad for the person doing it
if you could read the first line, you can see that I wrote "one tries to play with it" and in the last line I said I'll remove it even if it corrupts my world.
and what is life? is it on steam? if its not on sale I ain't going to get it.
We used to run gregtech with all options set to easy mode. There was no way (that I found) to un-do the iridium plate recipe, so we made a trading outpost that implemented the old iridium recipe with world protection around it.
That was going good for about 5 months... Then the update came: gregtech made all kinds of new plates, interfering with basically every mod's stock "IC2 recipe" and there is no config for it. Infact, he is boastful about there never being a config for it.
I, personally, would like to play with the default configs
I agree entirely, and I am trying. I'm mainly dealing with 1 person who is dead set against GT. He hates it from top to bottom and even hates GregoriusT, even though he knows nothing about him.
I've decided to move ahead with gregtech anyways, not going to let 1 person's hate dictate the direction of gameplay for the rest of us.
His main complaint is that it changes other mods gameplay, rather than just expanding.
I don't particularly understand, though. He has a gigantic frame mover mining vessel with like 200 block breakers on the front feeding into his ME network, all automated. WHAT YOU NEED ALL THAT FOR!!!@@@??? OVER 9000 DIAMONDS!?
When the game becomes creative mode for me, I look to increase the difficulty. That's how you have fun
All I can say is this: there will be far, far more people who'll be pissy about GregTech when that gets implemented in the official packs. One of the main things I like about GregTech is its configurability, but apparently, configuration is overpowered. Makes me wonder how difficult a little "patch" for those new, ahem, features would be to make/
...NERFCEPTION!
I'll stick by my thought process I've used for a while:
Does said feature make other mods' features obsolete?
Does said feature make other mods' features obsolete?
- The feature is more efficient
- The feature is cheaper
- The feature does more things for same cost
- Remember that all mods should have equal priority. This means that stats/costs/content of Gregtech or Forestry or TE are all correct, rather than one mod being the right one.
- If, for example, Gregtech has a high cost and 5 other mods have low cost for the same feature, Gregtech is underpowered. The other mods are not overpowered.
- If a mod is perceived overpowered because it requires less time/resources, it is not automatically bad.
- Sometimes being "balanced" makes the game less fun, or more of a "material grind" causing players to invest more time working and not enjoying the feature.
- Is TE's processing system balanced, compared to IC2's? Which one should be "nerfed"?