New Version Checker Mod

[Strikingwolf]

I foresee lots of spam then. "Game crashes in <extremely rare scenario which persists across world loads> - critical update!"

Unfortunately that is the only way to do it without setting up a team to moderate it, and that would take a lot of time and limit it to a few mods. I see it as a problem with the mod dev if they use this the wrong way, not our problem. Also, spam won't be a huge issue because you will only be notified with something you don't have to click on to see once per version...

The idea for this was a very open-ended API for version checking. If we do any manual flagging of updates that won't be the case, it is up to the modder to flag the updates well and it is up to the user to trust them to not misuse it

Never mind that it will also be used every time there's a lot of new features.

That would also be a case of the above. Modder's problem, not ours

 

[Strikingwolf]

Also, @CoolSquid, the API lets you fetch the json/yaml yourself, so you could just make json/yaml from curseforge yourself. Unfortunately we cannot add CF support on our end until we have some sort of integer to describe the version because of different versioning schemes

 

[ljfa]

Also, @CoolSquid, the API lets you fetch the json/yaml yourself, so you could just make json/yaml from curseforge yourself. Unfortunately we cannot add CF support on our end until we have some sort of integer to describe the version because of different versioning schemes

You could make the release date into an integer. Might just be problematic in case of multiple updates on one day.

 

[Strikingwolf]

You could make the release date into an integer. Might just be problematic in case of multiple updates on one day.

Yeah, but that also wouldn't give us a way to get the severity...

 

[Strikingwolf]

It seems as if I can only have one ClickEvent per chat message, meaning I will have to send messages once per mod

 

[Strikingwolf]

Doing a rework now, the json/yaml will have to contain lists so I can check if there has been a critical update, not if the latest is critical

 

[Strikingwolf]

IChatComponent.appendSibling(IChatComponent msg);

Thank god...
/me needs to work with chat more often

 

[Strikingwolf]

No, you should talk to me more often

/me grumbles about working with MC code

Alright pushing, that should settle critical update chat notifications

 

[trajing]

I foresee lots of spam then. "Game crashes in <extremely rare scenario which persists across world loads> - critical update!"

Never mind that it will also be used every time there's a lot of new features.

It is not our job to enforce how a mod author uses a framework - never mind that it ruins the fact that we're trying to let a mod author use whatever system that they want, be that the webapp that we provide or CurseForge or their own server - but it's also too much work for us (I'm not going to police the community, it's not my job and the community would never stand for it) and it would make it more difficult for mod authors to use it when it's needed. The main tenants of design that, while I'm technically not using for this framework, I frequently bring up when discussing ideas in private:

• Extensibility
• Allows its intended purpose to be used quickly (ease of use, minimal intervention required from us, etc.)

There are actually more points that I frequently bring up, but those are the two things I pay the most attention to. Strictly, these aren't being followed by the project - it isn't one of my personal projects, but I still try and stick by these when deciding my stance on a new idea.

 

[Strikingwolf]

It is not our job to enforce how a mod author uses a framework - never mind that it ruins the fact that we're trying to let a mod author use whatever system that they want, be that the webapp that we provide or CurseForge or their own server - but it's also too much work for us (I'm not going to police the community, it's not my job and the community would never stand for it) and it would make it more difficult for mod authors to use it when it's needed. The main tenants of design that, while I'm technically not using for this framework, I frequently bring up when discussing ideas in private:

• Extensibility
• Allows its intended purpose to be used quickly (ease of use, minimal intervention required from us, etc.)

There are actually more points that I frequently bring up, but those are the two things I pay the most attention to. Strictly, these aren't being followed by the project - it isn't one of my personal projects, but I still try and stick by these when deciding my stance on a new idea.

as do I, if it isn't extensible and easy to use it won't become popular, which is critical for a project like this to succeed because it needs to be used by many mainstream devs

 

[Strikingwolf]

Just wanted to double-check with you @CoolSquid, I have full permission to use your code for updates in this project, correct?

 

[Strikingwolf]

You, @Strikingwolf, may use the files listed below, under the terms of the Squid Attribution Non-commercial License.

1. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...olsquid/squidapi/util/version/GuiUpdates.java
2. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...lsquid/squidapi/util/version/IUpdateable.java
3. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...quid/squidapi/util/version/UpdateChecker.java
4. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...quid/squidapi/util/version/UpdateManager.java
5. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...d/squidapi/util/version/VersionContainer.java
6. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...java/coolsquid/squidapi/util/io/WebUtils.java

thanks for the help/code

 

[Strikingwolf]

You, @Strikingwolf, may use the files listed below, under the terms of the Squid Attribution Non-commercial License.

1. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...olsquid/squidapi/util/version/GuiUpdates.java
2. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...lsquid/squidapi/util/version/IUpdateable.java
3. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...quid/squidapi/util/version/UpdateChecker.java
4. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...quid/squidapi/util/version/UpdateManager.java
5. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...d/squidapi/util/version/VersionContainer.java
6. https://github.com/coolsquid/SquidA...java/coolsquid/squidapi/util/io/WebUtils.java

What about GuiBase and all things that these depend on that I'm not rewriting?

 

[Strikingwolf]

There were no fitting licenses, so I wrote one just for you :3

Thanks, saw that on twitter

Give me two sec...

Thanks for the help...I hate writing guis

 

[Strikingwolf]

EDIT: Okay, I added GuiBase. If you need anything else, please tell me.

I'll make a list of the things I need once I'm done with the implementation

 

[ljfa]

But you're not gonna be able to make the whole thing Free Software if you use this license though.

 

[Strikingwolf]

But you're not gonna be able to make the whole thing Free Software if you use this license though.

Yeah, no MIT license kinda sucks :/

 

[ljfa]

I don't see why people have to sell it...

Commercial use doesn't have to mean selling. Think servers with entry fees, or maybe even donations.
And point is to reach as widely as possible right? Restrictions like this will work against that.
If you're not comfortable with this then don't contribute.

You guys better don't relicense the whole thing just for including this.

 

[Strikingwolf]

The use of the term "commercial use" was fully intentional, and was used to stop sites like 9minecraft.

I didn't make this code for this project, but for a project owned by me. They wanted my code, so I allowed them to use it under certain terms. If they don't want to use it, not my issue.

Honestly whatever code I write will look like this, but I don't want to have to relicense this. I could relicense under GPL or something similar I guess...

 

[trajing]

Honestly whatever code I write will look like this, but I don't want to have to relicense this. I could relicense under GPL or something similar I guess...

I could write a custom license that explicitly disallows rehosting sites while still allowing monetization. I'll get a PiratePad set up and put CoolSquid, you, and I in a convo so we can discuss licensing.