Nether changes... ridiculous!

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Antice

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Oh, you think that is bad?
Agrarian skies nether
*shivers*

That place actually has me scared, just from all the death stories that prop up from even seasoned players. I'm using every trick in the book and then some to stay out of that place. the Agrarian nether that is. vanilla nether. pfft. childsplay. nether ores making pigmen pissed off?, pfft, I just go:
me: "you mad bro?"
pigman:"grouuuul?"
me: "you mad bro?" *smack*
pigman: "squeeeeee"
And harvest them for their teeth.


The reason the agrarian skies nether is so bad, is because of the infernal mobs mod ofc. and that they made everything hate you on sight. fitting considering that with ex nihilo, the nether is not needed for anything at all. you can craft a blaze, then trap it in a safari net and make as many copies of it that you would like. you can do the same with endermen.
 

ThatOneSlowking

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That place actually has me scared, just from all the death stories that prop up from even seasoned players. I'm using every trick in the book and then some to stay out of that place. the Agrarian nether that is. vanilla nether. pfft. childsplay. nether ores making pigmen pissed off?, pfft, I just go:
me: "you mad bro?"
pigman:"grouuuul?"
me: "you mad bro?" *smack*
pigman: "squeeeeee"
And harvest them for their teeth.


The reason the agrarian skies nether is so bad, is because of the infernal mobs mod ofc. and that they made everything hate you on sight. fitting considering that with ex nihilo, the nether is not needed for anything at all. you can craft a blaze, then trap it in a safari net and make as many copies of it that you would like. you can do the same with endermen.
Hellfish
That is all
 
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Linda Hartlen

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well if you want to play the: you are stealing their stuff card. its funny that they dont care about me sucking away all the lava for energy, stripmining huge chunks away with my machines for netherrack, building strange contraptions all over. nope.. all fine with you turning our beautiful home to a huge quarry.. what you took a pickaxe to our minerals?! get her!!!

and yes i understand a lot of it is due to mod restrictions etc.. but.. yeah it doesnt make much sense when you look at it that way does it? that said, tbh I don't care about them getting mad. the time i spend manually mining in the nether is so tiny its like.. whatever. go ahead i got a jetpack.. and stop staring up my skirt when i am mining! pervs!
 

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well if you want to play the: you are stealing their stuff card. its funny that they dont care about me sucking away all the lava for energy, stripmining huge chunks away with my machines for netherrack, building strange contraptions all over. nope.. all fine with you turning our beautiful home to a huge quarry.. what you took a pickaxe to our minerals?! get her!!!

and yes i understand a lot of it is due to mod restrictions etc.. but.. yeah it doesnt make much sense when you look at it that way does it? that said, tbh I don't care about them getting mad. the time i spend manually mining in the nether is so tiny its like.. whatever. go ahead i got a jetpack.. and stop staring up my skirt when i am mining! pervs!
Probably the only post that addresses everything said in this thread and that makes sense. :D
 
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Zarkov

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The nether is suppose to be Hell. You should die within the first 3 seconds of being there, it should be scarier IMO.
I understand you are exaggerating to make a point, but just how much fun would that actually be?

Makes me think of the whole thing with Jay "and then we doubled it" Wilson and Diablo 3. :)
 

YX33A

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I agree. My first time in the nether, it was very, very anti-climatic. My friends assured me that I would die within fifteen minutes, but I traversed over 1000 blocks and back with only iron gear.
Same, except I wasn't even wearing armor. On the downside, aside from glowstone and netherrack, all I could find of note was the lava ocean. Oh hey, giant floating crybaby. Shoots fireballs. Big deal, it's massive and easy to avoid. Zombie Pigmen. Never had any issues with 'em, I didn't attack 'em.
 
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AlCapella

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well if you want to play the: you are stealing their stuff card. its funny that they dont care about me sucking away all the lava for energy, stripmining huge chunks away with my machines for netherrack, building strange contraptions all over. nope.. all fine with you turning our beautiful home to a huge quarry.. what you took a pickaxe to our minerals?! get her!!! and yes i understand a lot of it is due to mod restrictions etc.. but.. yeah it doesnt make much sense when you look at it that way does it?

Hear! Hear! Well articulated! Here, take my like!

that said, tbh I don't care about them getting mad. the time i spend manually mining in the nether is so tiny its like..

Lucky you..... ;) I got one stinking cobalt ore block and no ardite so far, after quite a few death-by-assorted-mod-mobs! Death-by-nether is my biggest death count contributor on our server!

whatever. go ahead i got a jetpack.. and stop staring up my skirt when i am mining! pervs!

I get it that this remark was tongue-in-cheek, but ...ouch!


Oh hey, giant floating crybaby. Shoots fireballs. Big deal, it's massive and easy to avoid.
HAHAHA! You had me LOLing hard. Glad I'm not the only one that has that thought when I encounter those.... Seriously though, I wish I had this type of nether trips...
 

Linda Hartlen

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Lucky you..... ;) I got one stinking cobalt ore block and no ardite so far, after quite a few death-by-assorted-mod-mobs! Death-by-nether is my biggest death count contributor on our server!
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well I dont have tinkerers installed (gregtech for life man!) so ok.. yeah if you got that I guess you have to mine by hand a little bit more. I never really fiddled with tinkerers to know how much you have to mine by hand.
 

Revemohl

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It's not that Nether Ores is stupid, it's just that Nether Ores changing quartz by default is stupid. I mean, it makes sense for ores that yield double the usual and are only found in hell to be dangerous to mine. It doesn't make any sense for something you find everywhere and is used for tons of things to be as dangerous as those, just because it happens to be in hell as well.
 

Linda Hartlen

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Tinkers mining by hand paired with a gold bag of holding makes a buildcraft quarry look like crap


as so its pretty efficient then? ok then it shouldnt be too bad. cool. like i said, I prefer to have greg in and since he and tinks dont like eachother.. but I digress.. again.. I do that a lot today.
 

Celestialphoenix

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
It's not that Nether Ores is stupid, it's just that Nether Ores changing quartz by default is stupid. I mean, it makes sense for ores that yield double the usual and are only found in hell to be dangerous to mine. It doesn't make any sense for something you find everywhere and is used for tons of things to be as dangerous as those, just because it happens to be in hell as well.

So a mod being internally consistent with the vanilla game is stupid?
 

AlCapella

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oO ok dont I feel like an idiot now ^^ *rushes to install* I could hug you.. heck why not.. *gives hugs*

And lest we forget, you wouldn't have known this nugget of precious info without my conversation with you in the first place, Ha!(Actually our server is DW20 with GT and a few other mods installed)

Okay, so, step back and make some space, you two... [proceeds to gatecrash join the weekend group hug] ;)
 
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Revemohl

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So a mod being internally consistent with the vanilla game is stupid?
NO has always been focused on risk/reward mining (as exemplified by everything in the mod), so yeah, making nether quartz explode and call pigs just because it happens to be a nether ore is indeed stupid. It's basically the same thing as making all overworld ores give some sort of effect just because why not -- they don't have any advantages over something else in order to justify the added danger.

At least this can be easily turned off in the config, unless you play on a server.
 
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