Moving day

[Larmonade]

So having only really started to get the hang of the progression aspect of ftb, and having, for really only the first time, really started from scratch in a world with resource collection and base building, I've realized that my base is a bit ...badly located. I've decided that at this point (pretty early in the game, still), simply starting in a new world is probably the best option. I've just got a simple steam engine and solar-panels setup on my IC2 and TE workshops, and while I've got some turtles tunneling around so I can follow after and mine out the goodies, I really don't have any large-scale mining/sorting/storage system yet. However, thinking about it, if I'd played for even just another couple of days, I might be entrenched enough in the tech-tree that re-doing a week of "start from scratch" is less attractive. So my question, I guess, is "so...moving a base?"

1) what's your "cut off" point for when you're invested enough in your world that re-starting from a better location is not an option for you, personally?"

2) how do you move, if you're one who has a habit of moving your base or re-building in a new location periodically? Ender chests? ME drives? Portal guns?

3) somewhat connected to question 1, I suppose, at what benchmark do you consider yourself to no longer be in "early" game? Magma pumps and engines? Solar panels? Your first uu-matter? And what is your first "goal" for your base that, upon reaching it, you say "ahh, *now* it's a base!"

 

[twisto51]

1) Never. A new base is always an option. I usually have 3-4 of them by the time we switch to a new world. What I find myself doing is starting satellite bases for various activities and then eventually moving most of my main base to a satellite base I like better for some reason. My final base is usually a 2-4 chunk tower from 0-250ish in a void age.

2) ME drives, force-wrenched chests. With the mods we have now moving is trivial. It isn't like the old days where you could spend days moving your router/tube fed walls of barrels from one place to another.

3) Mid-game is where I stop doing things because I feel like I need something. Once I start building stuff just for the hell of it I'm in mid-game, trying out a bunch of medium projects before gearing up for some end-of-world megaprojects.

 

[SatanicSanta]

1) what's your "cut off" point for when you're invested enough in your world that re-starting from a better location is not an option for you, personally?"

If I hate the surroundings I will restart or move, typically the latter, no matter the progress.

2) how do you move, if you're one who has a habit of moving your base or re-building in a new location periodically? Ender chests? ME drives? Portal guns?

In the past I've used ME Drives, Portals, and simply walking with full inventories + bags

3) somewhat connected to question 1, I suppose, at what benchmark do you consider yourself to no longer be in "early" game? Magma pumps and engines? Solar panels? Your first uu-matter? And what is your first "goal" for your base that, upon reaching it, you say "ahh, *now* it's a base!"

Definitely not UUM, because I tend to play with GT. First goal = building a base . If I believed in end game and early game I guess I would consider getting my first full set of basic IC2 machines when I am no longer in early game.

 

[b0bst3r]

2) Chestception, fill a chest, force wrench it, put it inside another chest - repeat as many times as you like and carry everything in a single chest.

Just ....... don't lose it!!

 

[Trunks9809]

1) what's your "cut off" point for when you're invested enough in your world that re-starting from a better location is not an option for you, personally?"

Never. I've seen myself nuke entire 'end game' bases, delete region files etc etc just because I'm bored of it. I commonly build a starter base, tech up and start up automining\crafting\etc then run off and find someplace that looks cool to build in (Even if I have to travel tens of thousands of blocks to do so. Ocean gen, I'm looking at you ¬¬)

2) how do you move, if you're one who has a habit of moving your base or re-building in a new location periodically? Ender chests? ME drives? Portal guns?

Normally I have a 'fresh start kit' sitting in a chest I can grab. Mostly this consists of an ME controller, ME drive, some form of ore doubling machine, and some engines\generators. Then I just chuck some stuff I think I need on a couple of ME storage disks and set off into the sunset...

3) somewhat connected to question 1, I suppose, at what benchmark do you consider yourself to no longer be in "early" game? Magma pumps and engines? Solar panels? Your first uu-matter? And what is your first "goal" for your base that, upon reaching it, you say "ahh, *now* it's a base!"

I don't really divide my game into stages like that, it doesn't matter to me where I am in various tech\magic trees, if I think up a project then I'll start working on it, regardless of what I have available, machines etc. Generally I'm quite picky about where I build, so right from the start it's already got that 'its a base' feeling

 

[MichaelAbbott]

If you're playing with unleashed/with dartcraft people have already mentioned using the force wrench, you can actually condense whole bases into a single item and do the unpacking later when you've got a more scenic location. It's *never* worth deleting imo.

 

[SonOfABirch]

I build a small shack or dig into the side of a hill to make my first base while I accumulate enough resources for my "project" or "final base" I consider myself out of the early game when I can pop ores in a chest and have ingots come out the other end.

 

[Bomb Bloke]

I'd be less inclined to move and more inclined to set up a teleportation network of some sort. Dump down chunk/spot loaders as need be, ultimately the only thing that matters about the area your "main" base exists in is whether you like it.

 

[iNd3x]

When you can pop all your items in to a few drives, moving is easy, all you have to do is build the new base.
That's why i personally think restarting for another location is meaningless but exploring the current world and build a new base and then move to it is the way to go

 

[budge]

For me, the "early game" ends when I set up completely automatic power generation - when I'm no longer counting coal for the generator or steam engines. And I'd further class "end-game" as that point where my automation can craft more of itself (AE), which really starts to accelerate my tech advancement.

 

[MigukNamja]

I'll move when I don't like the location, find a better one, or simply get bored with it. I prefer my main base be in a scenic location and be open. I'm not a fan of underground main bases and void ages. However, farms, auto-processing, bee areas, etc.,,. can be anywhere.

As for early, mid, and late-game:

Early : Struggling for power, basic resources, and decent tools/armor and have just started long-tail stuff like Thaum and bees
Mid : Have stable but not near-infinite power, some resources auto-generated, good tools/armor, and are well into long-tail research activities like Thaum and Bees
Late : Near-infinite resources and power and have completed most of Thaum research and most of the lines of bees I'm after

In late game, I have the resources and tools at my disposal to build big projects and try wacky stuff.

In previous worlds, a well-powered quarry, MFR laser, and/or UU-matter maker would signal a transition point. In this world, I'm forgoing all of those and using bees for auto-resources. Since each bee line has to be researched and put into production, progress is more linear and less of a step function. Have honey, lava, string, iron, gold, and uranium via bees as of this writing. String is mainly for frames ;-)

 

[PierceSG]

In FTB, moving is not an issue with AppEng, EnderStorage, DartCraft, etc.

So, Just Do It.