Mindcrack - Industrial Centrifuge no longer processes Bauxite

[AlanEsh]

The last time I tried to process Bauxite Dust was the FTB beta. You could drop in the dust and some cells and get Aluminum dust plus some other byproducts I believe.

After this did not work for me in Mindcrack I checked Gregtech wiki and there is no mention of putting Bauxite in the Centrifuge.

So... Electrolyzer is the -only- way to process Bauxite now? Thanks for any info.

 

[CrafterOfMines57]

Yes, Industrial Electolyzer is where the Bauxite recipe was moved to, it goes much faster as well.

 

[noskk]

Yes, and need constant 128 eu/t to process..

 

[eable2]

In fact, the majority of the centrifuge recipes were moved to other "industrial" devices, mainly the electrolyzer. The main recipes that are still on the centrifuge are lava, rubber wood/resin, food --> methane, lapis lazuli --> lazurite etc, and some other random stuff.

 

[AlanEsh]

Ugh. That power requirement is a b*tch.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Peppe]

Requires a little babysitting, but one MFE can output the required 128 EU/t and has enough storage for I believe all the recipes. So you can charge the MFE with something basic as a generator and a stack of coal/charcoal and store up 256k to process the bauxite.

 

[AlanEsh]

Requires a little babysitting, but one MFE can output the required 128 EU/t and has enough storage for I believe all the recipes. So you can charge the MFE with something basic as a generator and a stack of coal/charcoal and store up 256k to process the bauxite.

Ah well that's good news. I can add another MFE to my power room easily enough. Might even step up to an MFSU... Thanks!

 

[Icarus White]

Ah, but there's a very small thing to watch out for:

An MFE outputs 128 EU/t exactly. Which means that it basically has to be right up next to the MFE to work properly. 3x insulated gold cables start losing power at 3 blocks, so...

That said, I'm not sure whether it'll blow if you attach it to an HV circuit.

Good luck getting it set up though!

 

[DoctorOr]

An MFE outputs 128 EU/t exactly. Which means that it basically has to be right up next to the MFE to work properly. 3x insulated gold cables start losing power at 3 blocks, so...

You're forgetting about glass fiber cables. The MFE can be up to 39 blocks away before a single EU loss.

 

[Icarus White]

Ah, yes, I suppose that's true. I forgot about that since I don't really have any diamonds to spare at the moment.

Still, a vanilla IC2 electrolyzer goes right on top of an MFE, so no real change there.

 

[MilConDoin]

Tooltip in NEI for the Electrolyzer: "max EU/p in: 128".
Don't try to use HV, only use MV! (explosion radius when placed on flat grass in the grass layer: 5)

 

[AlanEsh]

Yeah my power system is like this... kind of basic, but it works for my current (early>mid) game needs:

8 windmills at 100-110 height, and 16 stacked water mills feed down through a series of Batbox + 4 Inuslated Copper -- 13 batboxes in total. Those all dump into an MFE which has a glass fiber cable or two, then an LV transformer. More glass fiber cables branch out from the Transformer to supply my tier 1 machines. Two feeds from the LV transformer go into separate sides of my centrifuge to ensure it gets a good flow of power.

So -- my plan is to replace the MFE with an MFSU and then transformers down to MV and LV. I'll branch one output of the MV transformer over to the Electrolyzer. I could branch two sides of the MV transformer to feed two sides of the Electrolyzer to make sure it is fully powered at all times, but I don't think that should be necessary with glass fiber cables.

Anyway, I have the diamonds I need to make these changes, and I will add some advanced solar panels as soon as I can so my MFSU power regeneration is more robust.

 

[Icarus White]

Ah, after some thought I realized there's actually a diamond-free solution:

If you haven't managed to get lithium cells (and unless you got very, very lucky with the pulverizer, you probably don't), you could just hook up four batboxes to an LV transformer. That'd work too.

Or make energy crystals out of rubies, I suppose, but you'll need rubies later for precious, precious chrome.

 

[AlanEsh]

Ah, after some thought I realized there's actually a diamond-free solution:

If you haven't managed to get lithium cells (and unless you got very, very lucky with the pulverizer, you probably don't), you could just hook up four batboxes to an LV transformer. That'd work too.

I thought about that, but since my power generation is slow, I need a hefty reserve. Maybe I should do the following:

- Put together a dedicated MFE
- MFE goes to an LV Transformer
- 4 of the LV Transformer outputs go to their own Batboxes
- The 4 Batboxes feed into a reversed LV Transformer
- The LV Transformer's MV side feeds the Electrolyzer

 

[MilConDoin]

Your LV stuff is used to expand storage by 160k? (4 batboxes)

 

[AlanEsh]

Your LV stuff is used to expand storage by 160k? (4 batboxes)

Yes and to add complexity
Yeah on second thought that's not really going to accomplish much besides to make an electrical octopus. Might as well just put an MFE right next to the Electrolyzer.

Icarus' point was to avoid using diamonds... so going with that idea it would make more sense to have 4 lines of batboxes in series feeding a reversed LV Transformer. So you'd have 16 or 20 Batboxes total. That's a lot of tin...

 

[Narcisism]

New goal: Have a power room that is nothing but a TON of BatBoxes. And one MFSU for charging tools and such..... actually..... heck I'll grab the IC2 charge pads mod and hook those up to the batbox quaternary tree (like a binary tree, but with 4 branches each instead of 2). It'd be a room full of batboxes that link into LV transformers, then into MV transformers, and finally HV transformers. Stepping up each time. Could be a neat project. Come to think of it, it kind of makes me think of the concept of an industrial capacitor.

 

[Icarus White]

New goal: Have a power room that is nothing but a TON of BatBoxes. And one MFSU for charging tools and such..... actually..... heck I'll grab the IC2 charge pads mod and hook those up to the batbox quaternary tree (like a binary tree, but with 4 branches each instead of 2). It'd be a room full of batboxes that link into LV transformers, then into MV transformers, and finally HV transformers. Stepping up each time. Could be a neat project. Come to think of it, it kind of makes me think of the concept of an industrial capacitor.

While the inherent hilarity of your proposal does much for it, I'd like to point out that making lithium batteries isn't all that hard once you have a reliable source of aluminium (read: an industrial electrolyzer and a bunch of clay, the latter of which you can get by centrifuging dirt, among other things - although getting dirt renewably requires taking advantage of other mods, and a stack of dirt gets you two clay. Unless Greg's changed the recipes again, in which case tough luck) - so you could plausibly fill your base with MFEs instead. Really, my proposal was how to power the electrolyzer before you got any aluminium. I guess gold is problematic, though... although with Twilight Forest... hmmm. (Hint: it's not obvious, but NEI mentions that the Pulverizer can mulch weapons and armor into powder.)

Note to self: look into getting redstone crops, the extra bees are hilarious but allegedly the really cool stuff takes ~300 generations. Although with the change in how the Apiary Database works you're not going in completely blind, I guess...

Also, do vanilla ic2 electrolyzers still stick to batboxes? I remember doing that once, although at 10EU/t you're going to have to make three and change to fill up each box. Ridiculous energy capacity though - a full stack of electrolyzed water cells can store about 864000 EU, I think, and with TE magma crucibles, tin is a renewable resource.

Although if you're using TE anyway, you may as well set up a lava tank next to a (geo)thermal generator. (almost) INFINITE STORAGE! More for anybody who works more with the MJ side of things, of course, but still.

 

[netmc]

For clay, the best bet is either a red rock biome, or use factorization to process your ores. You get sludge as a byproduct of ore processing that can be turned into clay (although the industrial grinder is best for ores.) The next best is a slew of moisteners making mycelium. I think you get 8 clay out of that instead of 2 with dirt, not to mention the sand and the mushrooms which can be turned into methane. Maybe not the fastest, but definitely an interesting production chain.

I've got an IC2 miner running for ores, but I've still gotten most of my tin and copper from lava in centrifuge. Until I get that diamond drill, the centrifuge beats out the miner for tin and copper.

 

[Moleculor]

If you want clay, Write a flat, mountain ridge Age. Grab the red rock, turn it into clay. I have pretty much a limitless supply of lithium and silicon. I have a little setup with a pump that fills buckets in a chest with two autocrafting tables, one turning red cobble into clay, the other turning the clay into blocks.

(Note, my only experience with this is the Beta pack, it's possible that GregTech has fucked even more up in other packs.)