Liquid Tesseract bandwidth.

[SteveTech]

I concur, 160 Steam/(tick*pipe)*4 pipes = 640 steam/tick, 640 steam/tick / 40 steam(tick*engine) = 16 engines(maxed out on steam)

Now I believe the engines can work on lower steam, they just generate less power. So you may not see any gains past 16 engines. Some testing may be requires, so I hereby call all scientists to the science mobile.

 

[Mash]

Yeah, you should just check and make sure that all engines are outputting 8 mj/t.

From my experience they tend to level out at about the same mj/t output, but checking couldn't hurt, I suppose.

 

[PonyKuu]

Yes, they are outputting 8 Mj/tick each.

 

[Bloodfrost]

Hmmmm, i wonder if you would just be better off using the energy bridge instead of all thos steam engines. I was able to input 1000 mB/tick into my energy bridge i just cannot remember how much MJ that converted into it. When it comes down to material costs and space requirements its a no brainer to go with it. However when it comes down to efficiancy, i'm not 100% sure. 16 of thos engines doing 8 MJ would be 128 obviously, i think i was able to match that, however not from 1 boiler....

 

[PonyKuu]

I don't like power converters. I even use steam turbines even though they much more expensive and less efficient. I just think that converters are too easy.
And my issue is not the way I use to convert steam to power - is the way I transfer steam. I will have some issues with turbines, however, because I can't transmit IC2 power between dimensions without using that insanely expensive device from GregTech. I'm OK with it. I'll use a turbine in each dimension I with IC2 machines. Maybe two in some power-hungry dimensions.

 

[YX33A]

Just curious, is that a dimensional doors pocket dimension you're using to build your boiler room?
Secondary question: are the CMC letting more then the original three join up?

 

[Booker The Geek]

SO in my testing....

1. 6 max high pressure Boilers, at full temp.
2. On top is a teseract in the middle. (NO liquiducts, just the tesseract.)
3. One output teseract, 4 sides connected, each with 27 Industrial steam engines.
4. Each engine output at 8mj.

From this I have gathered...

1. Boilers will output EVERYTHING to an adjacent inventory, no limit.
2. Teseract, when used like this seem to not have an input limit. (As an adjacent inventory.)
3. NO limit on output side of tesseract.
4. Liquiduct, un-powered, have no input limit.

Hope this helps.

 

[Mash]

SO in my testing....

1. 6 max high pressure Boilers, at full temp.
2. On top is a teseract in the middle. (NO liquiducts, just the tesseract.)
3. One output teseract, 4 sides connected, each with 27 Industrial steam engines.
4. Each engine output at 8mj.

From this I have gathered...

1. Boilers will output EVERYTHING to an adjacent inventory, no limit.
2. Teseract, when used like this seem to not have an input limit. (As an adjacent inventory.)
3. NO limit on output side of tesseract.
4. Liquiduct, un-powered, have no input limit.

Hope this helps.

This would explain why Kuu's engines were fully powered off of just 4 output faces.

Although, a 36 HP boiler shouldn't be able to power 27 industrial steam engines. Eighteen should be the max. Are you sure each one has 27 engines on it?

 

[Demi]

4 rows of 27 industrial steam engines = 108engines total
108 divided by 6 36hp boilers = 18 ;-)p

 

[Chaosoul]

Has anyone tested this with Xycraft multitanks? As in can you just place 1 valve with tesseract outputting (may or may not use liquiduct)

 

[Mash]

4 rows of 27 industrial steam engines = 108engines total
108 divided by 6 36hp boilers = 18 ;-)p

That makes a lot more sense, though I didn't gather that from his original post. I didn't see where he talked about rows.

Whatever. It answers my question, and I'm tired.

Also, guys. While we're on a sort-of tesseracty-topic, do you know if item tesseracts can output to DSU's? Also, can Boilers pull from DSU's? Actually, mostly just if boilers can pull from DSU's. I'm sure I can find another way to stuff wood in there.

 

[Booker The Geek]

4 rows of 27 industrial steam engines = 108engines total
108 divided by 6 36hp boilers = 18 ;-)p

Exactly

Has anyone tested this with Xycraft multitanks? As in can you just place 1 valve with tesseract outputting (may or may not use liquiduct)

Tessarats will not pull into them, only push out. Xycraft tank valves will not output automatically. I think you will have to use duct/pipe somehow. I don't know about any limits on through put.[DOUBLEPOST=1367216328][/DOUBLEPOST]

That makes a lot more sense, though I didn't gather that from his original post. I didn't see where he talked about rows.

Whatever. It answers my question, and I'm tired.

Also, guys. While we're on a sort-of tesseracty-topic, do you know if item tesseracts can output to DSU's? Also, can Boilers pull from DSU's? Actually, mostly just if boilers can pull from DSU's. I'm sure I can find another way to stuff wood in there.

Dsu?

 

[Mash]

Dsu?

The Deep Storage Unit from MFR.

 

[Chaosoul]

do you know if item tesseracts can output to DSU's? Also, can Boilers pull from DSU's? Actually, mostly just if boilers can pull from DSU's. I'm sure I can find another way to stuff wood in there.

DSU do indeed work with boilers. I'm not sure whether you have to config the input or outputs however.

Tessarats will not pull into them, only push out. Xycraft tank valves will not output automatically. I think you will have to use duct/pipe somehow. I don't know about any limits on through put.

Yeah I know they don't auto output( not yet anyways..) but was wondering if they have an input limit.

 

[Mash]

Excellent.

 

[Bloodfrost]

SO in my testing....

1. 6 max high pressure Boilers, at full temp.
2. On top is a teseract in the middle. (NO liquiducts, just the tesseract.)
3. One output teseract, 4 sides connected, each with 27 Industrial steam engines.
4. Each engine output at 8mj.

From this I have gathered...

1. Boilers will output EVERYTHING to an adjacent inventory, no limit.
2. Teseract, when used like this seem to not have an input limit. (As an adjacent inventory.)
3. NO limit on output side of tesseract.
4. Liquiduct, un-powered, have no input limit.

Hope this helps.

That is super weird because if that was the case <using a tesseract as an adjacent inv> then when i was trying to solve my issue of not getting maximum mB/tick into my Energy Bridge <1000 mB/tick> slapping a tesseract right onto a boiler did not work, i cannot seem to remember the actual numbers it produced, but it was nothing near 1000 mB/tick, which would tell me that a boiler wont produce its max via just 1 tesseract, I had to use 9 points of contact via Aquaduct into Tesseract into it <i only used 9 because any more would drain the steam, where 9 was stable> Which i believe produced 800 mB/tick only?

Anyways my point was that you could not just put a tesseract directly onto a boiler and draw out 100%.... Can you confirm this?

I just tried it on my 36 HP boiler, a tesseract only touching one side of a boiler only pulls 80 mB/tick for me, maybe i'm missunderstanding what u mean by adjacent inventory...

 

[Booker The Geek]

As soon as I can re-access my server, I'll past some shots. Why can't I access the server? Cause i'm a dumb-ass who got his account hacked.

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Wife is letting me use hers till I get a new one.

 

[PonyKuu]

Just curious, is that a dimensional doors pocket dimension you're using to build your boiler room?
Secondary question: are the CMC letting more then the original three join up?

Yeah, that's from Dimensional Doors! Such an awesome mod...

And are you talking about my signature? Oo

SO in my testing....

1. 6 max high pressure Boilers, at full temp.
2. On top is a teseract in the middle. (NO liquiducts, just the tesseract.)
3. One output teseract, 4 sides connected, each with 27 Industrial steam engines.
4. Each engine output at 8mj.

From this I have gathered...

1. Boilers will output EVERYTHING to an adjacent inventory, no limit.
2. Teseract, when used like this seem to not have an input limit. (As an adjacent inventory.)
3. NO limit on output side of tesseract.
4. Liquiduct, un-powered, have no input limit.

Hope this helps.

Thank you! But I'd like to see comments of KingLemming on this since he said that there are input/output limits, so I'm interesting if it's a bug or something like this.
I also thought that there's RailCraft connection throughput limits... Something like 4 connections for a turbine required and so on...

 

[Bloodfrost]

I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that it really boils down to "each connection on a boiler will output 80mB/tick". Thats it... Regardless of what is connected to it, you will only get "up to" 80 mB/tick. So in order to get 160 from a liquiduct u would have to use 2 connections that combine into 1 ... but u would still have to have 2 points of contact on the boiler.

If anyone can disprove that u can get more than 80 mB/tick per connection? i'd love to see it.

 

[Booker The Geek]

Liquid Tesseract & Boiler Testing​

All images also on my imgur.com account.​

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• Test Result Setup
• Spoiler: Testing Setup

  
• So here we have four rows of Industrial Steam Engines hooked up to a liquiduct. The liquiduct I inputting from ONE liquid Tesseract, on ONE face. Each row has 27 Steam Engines, for a total of 108 Steam engines

• Test #1
• Here we are testing the output of a liquid tesseract, and the input of a liquiduct. (liquidudct input testing is being tested on the steam engine array, as there is ONE unpowered input total suppling the steam for every engine.)
• Spoiler: Boiler Setup

  
• Spoiler: Results

  
• There seems to be NO limit on the output for ONE face of a tesseract
• There also seems to be NO limit on the input for an unpowered liquiduct

• Test #2
• Here we are testing the output per face of a boiler.
• Spoiler: Boiler Setup

  
• Spoiler: Results

  
• The output of a single face of a boiler does appear to be limited.

• Test #3
• Here we are testing the input limit of a single face of the tesseract.
• Spoiler: Boiler Setup

  
• Spoiler: Results

  
• The input of a tesseract does appear to be limited.

So following this test, we come to the following

1. Tesseracts have a limited on input per side.
2. Boilers have a limit on the output per face.
3. Tesseract have NO limit on the output per face.
4. Liquiduct (unpowered) seem to not have a limit on the amount they can transfer.
5. One Tesseract can input on five side more then a boiler can output on 9 faces.
   • IF a boiler face can output 80 mB/T, then the input for a tesseract is equal to or greater then 144 mB/T

Seems that my pprevious testing was done a long time ago... so things might have changed. THIS testing was done on 29APR2013 with the recommend Direwolf20 pack.


Will be testing xycraft tanks/valves latter today.

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