Liquid Tesseract bandwidth.
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That may be true up to a point. They can only use so much then they make out.... The numbers for that are on the railcraft website though.
One tesseract per boiler is OK Look closer at the first boiler setup. 5 connections - one tesseract.
Yeah, It can't consume more than 320mb/tick, so that's the input limit ^_^
Well, each connection only takes out 80 mb of steam/t, right? Well, a HP, fully sized boiler makes 720 mb of steam per tick. You'd need 9 connections at that rate to use all of the steam being produced.
I mean, I want to be wrong about this. But unless each connection actually draws something like, 140~ mb/t...
Actually, unless you were lying with one of your first picture posts, I should be wrong about this. Now I'm more curious as to where I'm wrong.
{clarification...} I will be using S/t as "Steam per tick", as that is waht the railcraft wiki uses.
- Each connection on the boiler OUTPUTS 80 S/t....
- Industrial Steam Engines consume 40 S/t
- NINE boiler Faces (Top of boiler) time 80 S/t (output per face) = 720 S/t
- The Tesseract is ONE connection to the Boiler, the Liquiducts are the other EIGHT.
- There are FIVE connections to the teseract. ONE from the boiler and FOUR from the liquiducts.
- 720 S/t Outputted into Five Tesseract Faces = 144 S/t
- Tesseract can IMPORT AT LEAST 144 S/t, Maybe more.
- Industrial Steam Engines use 40 S/t (Railcraft Website)
- HP boiler consists of 3*3*4 Boiler tanks, creating 20 S/t each, makes a Max sized boiler create 720 S/t
lol... I actually had to go and look to make sense of what you said... But yes, you are correct.
Okay, I see.
I was thinking about it weird. Don't ask how my brain works. You'd never be able to decipher that tangled mess.
Now, let me get this straight... each face on the tesseract can take in at LEAST 144 s/t? This is the biggest point of contention in regards to my confusion. If it can, then my confusion will be cleared up.
I was thinking about it weird. Don't ask how my brain works. You'd never be able to decipher that tangled mess.
Now, let me get this straight... each face on the tesseract can take in at LEAST 144 s/t? This is the biggest point of contention in regards to my confusion. If it can, then my confusion will be cleared up.
Yes. At least 144 STEAM per tick...
I don't know if they can input more, I'm going to be testing that actually in my real world later today. Along with the xycraft tank limits.
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What do you guys think of my power plant? it is on my imgur.com account...
That basically fits my own experience. However I think you are drawing the wrong conclusion about #1. I don't believe that Tesseracts have a limited input per side, instead what appears to be happening is that the output connection of the liquiduct is a bottleneck. That would be the 160mB/t limit that KingLemming referred to.
When I get back to my computer, I will try to prove that they do have an input limit... (forgot to upload that test before I left the house.)
And f.y.i.... You can only FULLY power 4 Industrial steam engines w/liquiducts & xycraft tank per valve... But you have to use a staggered startup. Three is realistic for automation. Pictures will be posted later today or tomorrow.
Question.
If you put tesseract A against the boiler, and tesseract B against a steam consumer, shouldn't that reliably show if there's an input/output limit?
I don't know if steam consumers can take liquids straight from a tesseract, but I don't think steam consumers have an input limit. Either way, I'm just tossing out ideas. Would be nice to have some concrete facts on this before I devote a massive amount of materials and time into it.
If you put tesseract A against the boiler, and tesseract B against a steam consumer, shouldn't that reliably show if there's an input/output limit?
I don't know if steam consumers can take liquids straight from a tesseract, but I don't think steam consumers have an input limit. Either way, I'm just tossing out ideas. Would be nice to have some concrete facts on this before I devote a massive amount of materials and time into it.
I did some further testing. I can prove that tesseracts DO NOT have an output limit. (or, if they do, then it's irrelevant to this thread, as they can output the largest boiler's steam capacity without a hitch.)
Pictures for proof.
First, we have a single input face on the boiler tesseract, and a single output face on a steam consumer. As you can see, we have a steady 80 mb/tick output.
To make this easier, I'm just going to link you to the images.http://imgur.com/fleDDtm,ImX90XH,OvvZPan
Secondly, I added the 8 liquiduct connections to the boiler tesseract. As you can see, it is now outputting 720 mb/t off of one output connection. http://imgur.com/g3iXiFl,lrPZaqn#1
Pictures for proof.
First, we have a single input face on the boiler tesseract, and a single output face on a steam consumer. As you can see, we have a steady 80 mb/tick output.
To make this easier, I'm just going to link you to the images.http://imgur.com/fleDDtm,ImX90XH,OvvZPan
Secondly, I added the 8 liquiduct connections to the boiler tesseract. As you can see, it is now outputting 720 mb/t off of one output connection. http://imgur.com/g3iXiFl,lrPZaqn#1
Did you see the first picture I posted? The Tesseract is outputting SIX max HP boilers worth of steam from one face.
You're welcome, and thanks.
O.O Jesus christ, I didn't know tesseracts were THAT badass. -ding!- I wonder how a similar setup would work with a hell pump system...not that I've ever needed some 760mB/t worth of lava to power my base, but just seeing it pour in that damn fast would be bleedin incredible.
I wonder what uses beyond massive steam transport this kinda system would have...hm...I must ponder.
I wonder what uses beyond massive steam transport this kinda system would have...hm...I must ponder.
Ok, here's some testing done. As you can see, when hooked up to a steam producer, the input tesseract takes the full 1000mB that the producer generates.
So, the bottleneck is not on the tesseract, it's on the liquiduct connection to the tesseract. It's actually pretty interesting to note too, because it means that you cannot supply maximum power to steam consumers with liquiducts.
edit: to prevent any misconceptions, the 1000mB cap you see is from the steam consumer/producer. I used it to test because I haven't found any block that actively transfers more liquid than that.
So, the bottleneck is not on the tesseract, it's on the liquiduct connection to the tesseract. It's actually pretty interesting to note too, because it means that you cannot supply maximum power to steam consumers with liquiducts.
edit: to prevent any misconceptions, the 1000mB cap you see is from the steam consumer/producer. I used it to test because I haven't found any block that actively transfers more liquid than that.