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Infinity Evolved or Beyond


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Nuclear_Creeper0

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You don't need to explain it. I know how it works. What I'm saying is based on these changes its better to stay in 1.7.10. It's not like mod developers care about which version its in. There's also the rumor that minecraft will be moving to C++ instead of Java due to the fact that mobile and Windows 10 Mc both are in C++, so that Microsoft can update easier.
What this means is modded will have start from scratch. A clean slate.
 

Hambeau

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You don't need to explain it. I know how it works. What I'm saying is based on these changes its better to stay in 1.7.10. It's not like mod developers care about which version its in. There's also the rumor that minecraft will be moving to C++ instead of Java due to the fact that mobile and Windows 10 Mc both are in C++, so that Microsoft can update easier.
What this means is modded will have start from scratch. A clean slate.

That's not happening any time soon. While they're working on it the first goal is to get both Java MC and C++ MC (Win10 and all console/Android versions) as functionally identical as possible. Then they can work towards a common "modding" interface which has started on the C++ version using some C# and JSON files, which was demoed at Minecon.

They started with that route for now because C# is basically Java with the serial numbers filed off and can be easily converted to both languages.
 

GamerwithnoGame

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You don't need to explain it. I know how it works. What I'm saying is based on these changes its better to stay in 1.7.10. It's not like mod developers care about which version its in. There's also the rumor that minecraft will be moving to C++ instead of Java due to the fact that mobile and Windows 10 Mc both are in C++, so that Microsoft can update easier.
What this means is modded will have start from scratch. A clean slate.
I'm not sure THAT'S true either - some mod developers only started in 1.10-ish, and I don't know enough mod developers to say as an absolute that they don't care - do you? :) if so, that's awesome!

And I wouldn't call it a clean slate, but a BLANK slate. We'll be in a far worse state than that going from 1.7.10 to 1.10.2, and you surely cannot have missed the number of complaints, all the "why isn't X in Y modpack?" "What do you mean it's not ready?" "Why don't they just port it across, it's easy isn't it?" "Ugh 1.10 is so BORING/EMPTY/WEAK compared to 1.7.10/without X mod in it" or "the 1.10 version of X is so buggy, why can't they just port it, it's simple, I never had these problems in 1.7.10". You must know what I mean?

Now, I think it has a pretty respectable number and range of mods, and some very interesting ones/versions that are exclusive to 1.10+, but for some people it's still far too lacking. Imagine that ten times worse. No, a hundred times. THAT'S what you would get.

Now it may well be that this is the way it will go, in the end, and if it does I will - as I have been - advocate patience and tolerance, because it's entirely down to the inventiveness, imagination, skill and generosity of mod makers that we have been as lucky as we are. But what I've seen in this transition doesn't exactly make me hopeful about how it will go.
 
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Nuclear_Creeper0

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You know what I'm just gonna make a mod that adds all the stuff that got removed in the 1.7.10-1.10.2 transistion. Tesseracts, Ender Quarry, OpenBlocks stuff, Draconic Chest, etc.
 

Drbretto

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There will never be modding on the other versions anywhere near as in depth as this. Have is basically wide-open for manipulation. With the C versions, they, as in Microsoft, have to build the API, which means you and only edit what they let you edit. They've already done so, actually. They're called add-ons. You can make creepers stronger, maybe mess with the gravity a little bit. That's about it. No adding new blocks with functionality. No pipes, no energy systems, nothing. Until Microsoft lets you.

I'm one of the bigger defenders of the PE/Win10 and the console versions. I think the vanilla experience is better on both, especially the win10 version and its 60 chunk view distance, and both versions ability to connect with 2-4 people easily via Xbox or PSN accounts, but modding is a dead end. All you will ever get is add-ons.
 

Drbretto

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You know what I'm just gonna make a mod that adds all the stuff that got removed in the 1.7.10-1.10.2 transistion. Tesseracts, Ender Quarry, OpenBlocks stuff, Draconic Chest, etc.

Most if the openblocks stuff has been imported in individual pieces.

My sincere recommendation is to either go back and play 1.7 packs until 1.10+ stabilizes. Or, take an explorer's attitude towards the new stuff. You're not making those mods. Especially something like the tesseract, which I would have to assume team COFH would have included right off if it was that easy. I'm sure they're getting inundated with people pestering them about it.
 

Nuclear_Creeper0

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You do know Microsoft treats mods the exact same way Mojang did? "They are unsupported additions to the game."
They couldn't care less.
 

Nuclear_Creeper0

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Which means we need to enjoy mods while they last. Because eventually the game will transfer over to C, and we'll go back to playing Vanilla. And I'll quit.
 

Drbretto

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You do know Microsoft treats mods the exact same way Mojang did? "They are unsupported additions to the game."
They couldn't care less.

You don't understand. It's not about them not caring. It's what can and can't be done. Nobody 'let' people make mods on the java version. Java is open. C++ is not. It's not about permissions. It's about what's possible

Which means we need to enjoy mods while they last. Because eventually the game will transfer over to C, and we'll go back to playing Vanilla. And I'll quit.

Dude, seriously, at this point it's your attitude. The C versions are already out there. I don't see anyone knocking on your door making you switch. At this point, you're just rejecting reality so you can complain. Java version isn't going anywhere. In fact, it's hopping. The 1.7 era is over, and there are going to be some losses, but this era is just beginning, and it's evolved. Now they can go in with everything they've learned in the past, paving the road for more mods to play nice with each other. It's a new era and it's maturing.

No one is forcing you to play 1.10 mods, either. If you're not ready to make the transition, it's fine. No one pulled the files for infinity from the server. It's your choice. Just as it appears to be your choice now to wallow. Right now, the biggest thing keeping you down is your attitude.