Impregnable bees
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*sarcasm*
Oh no! I can no longer guarantee a perfect mutation chance or stupid amounts of resources without there being a chance of something bad happening!
How dare the mod author change something about his mod without my consent!
*not sarcasm*
Personally i've only worked with soul frames and apiaries. Nothing more, and I had no problem getting lapis bees and the like. Why do you need 100% chance?
Oh no! I can no longer guarantee a perfect mutation chance or stupid amounts of resources without there being a chance of something bad happening!
How dare the mod author change something about his mod without my consent!
*not sarcasm*
Personally i've only worked with soul frames and apiaries. Nothing more, and I had no problem getting lapis bees and the like. Why do you need 100% chance?
Because some people may not want to sit in front of their machines for a couple hours just to get a crack at getting the bee they are after.
Either way the simplest way is to still use the mutators to get 100% mutation while possibly turning the princess into a swarmer and just get the serum out of those bees but not use them in your line.
There are so many ways that this comment is wildly disconnected from reality..
You don't have to sit there and watch the bees. You don't even have to be at your computer. If you're on a server and chunkloaded you can even logout and go masturbate to paint-drying porn, if that's your kink
Or... There exists innumerable ways to kill bees in less time. Since its when they die that mutations happen.
They make the extra bees machines able to be automated yet? No they haven't there is no way of knowing when the serum is done or needs to be refilled unless you are sitting there looking at it. Next time think about what people are saying before posting dumb ass comments. While it doesn't actually take a couple of hours it takes a good 5-30 minutes of watching the serums to get a super bee/super breeder bee depending on what has to be done.
Yes, "they" have. Just not with redpower.
Regardless, your inability to automate still doesn't mean you're forced to stare and watch. Go do something else.
If you are talking about routers they still cannot tell when a bee is done, the serum is out, the next serum needs to be inserted.
Im talking about buildcraft, and you're still making excuses and whining. Nothing forces you to stand there and watch. Crank up that paint drying porno.
No buildcraft doesn't work I have tried all of the "Easy ways" to automate the extra bees machines and wooden pipe + gate does not pull out the bee from the correct slot it pulls all of the bees out.
If you have seen this working then show me a video otherwise your making things up.
Yes it does. I was doing it when I was playing mindcrack single player months ago. Back when I got every bee breed (except dyes, because dye bees are dumb)
I don't make videos, and i certainly wont just because you demand it of me. Furthermore, I don't care if you believe me. No sweat off my nose.
I play SSP, and I have no problem breeding my bees with an apiary and soul frames. Toss the bees in, go mining if they have long life(they still die rather fast with 3 soul frames) or tend to the farm/harvest trees so that I can make more seed oil and impregnated stick things. When I get back the bees are ready to be re-bred. Heck, i've even had bees finish up while I am busy bee-alyzing and determining which bees should go back into the breeding program and which will spend the rest of their days in a chest.
Honestly, i've found that the hands on approach works well when breeding. Especially with those damn rocky variants that all only make one drone. By carefully breeding them and adjusting the mutation chance I'm able to easily get them up to a high fertility and keep the good traits.
Edit: As an aside, what do you do once you have automated everything? The game plays itself at that point, so do you just log in and sit there?
Honestly, i've found that the hands on approach works well when breeding. Especially with those damn rocky variants that all only make one drone. By carefully breeding them and adjusting the mutation chance I'm able to easily get them up to a high fertility and keep the good traits.
Edit: As an aside, what do you do once you have automated everything? The game plays itself at that point, so do you just log in and sit there?
DoctorOr: You realize how your behaviour is most likely to be interpreted here?
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I'm better than you pile of $§"$, because I know something that you don't and I will never tell you how to do it.
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Why don't you enlighten us with the principle of how to do it? What gate configuration to use and attaching it to which side, if that is important? This would be a nice switch from elitist attitude to helpful demeanor.
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I'm better than you pile of $§"$, because I know something that you don't and I will never tell you how to do it.
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Why don't you enlighten us with the principle of how to do it? What gate configuration to use and attaching it to which side, if that is important? This would be a nice switch from elitist attitude to helpful demeanor.
Woo, lapis bees. Big freaking deal. Come back when you have a gold chest filled with species serums. There's a sense of accomplishment and reward to planning and building a breeding machine that works step by step to a goal (having every bee and every trait) that just waiting for rng can never match.
I've been playing 6 hours a day for the past 2 months and I don't have every bee species yet. I cannot imagine how frustrating and annoying it would be to try to accomplish that if I had to deal with rng on every single bee. Oh wait, I can. When I first tried to make heroic bees, I had to use soul frames since my base isn't in a forest biome. Took me several days to get it done. For *one* species.[DOUBLEPOST=1368146617][/DOUBLEPOST]
That's the point where the game STARTS for me. That's when I am free from mindless drudgery and I can start to design interesting projects and creations. Otherwise I'd be too busy doing the grunt work to any real work done.
For example, I would like to build a floating airship out of RP2 frames that can move around and terrorize the server. But I won't actually have the time to do it if I have to physically mine the copper and tin, then manually smelt it, then put it in an alloy furnace then craft the frames, e.t.c. The only to make doable is if it's a weekend project, and that requires setting up automation beforehand to get the resources and craft all the parts while I work on the design and engineering.
Hmm, I should actually do that this weekend. I could even slap in some ghastly bees to leave a trail of ghasts in my wake BWAHAHaHA.
Timers and gates. Drop items in the top, pull them out the sides. At the time I was using redpower pipes into hoppers, and redpower timers triggering gates to pull out. There are no videos to point people too because I don't learn from videos. I have no idea if such videos exist, and I don't make them.
Furthermore, I don't play the world anymore and while I have the save file I'd have to download Mindcrack - and possibly an older version - to even get it up and running. I consider the world a redpower-lag induced wasteland, and don't want to visit.
And if I come off as demeaning toward Quesenek, well that's intentional. My entire interaction with him has been correcting him, he got defensive and told me I was wrong, I corrected him again and he got demanding. I'm not amenable to that sort of interaction from anybody.
Finally, I don't particularly see automating extra bees machines as necessary or even valuable. I start bee breeding and machine use and walk away, either in game or out. I don't sit and stare watching the machines like a lab rat waiting for a treat. It was more a question to myself of if it was possible, seeing as I discovered that the machines simply blackholed anything redpower-piped into them. I've never bothered to do so since. Were I to do so, it would probably be computercraft centered.
Just remember that you can still make swarmer bees the old fashioned way, and they live a lot longer now, and you don't have to worry about any of these things. when you want a 100% mutation or production chance, just make some swarmer princesses (they are really easy to make, especially with thaumic bees) and you don't have to worry. It now actually gives a reason to use swarmer bees, and multiple queens running in parallel.