I'm making a fusion reactor

[Cosmology27]

So as the title says.... so I'm gathering all the materials needed... Now I love Gregtech, I'm not gonna whine about how it's hard, I like that it's hard, and that it takes forever. I love playing with all the machines, breaking things down to their essential make up and recombining things to make stronger materials. It's the best part of FTB to me.
That being said... for the fusion reactor you need 24 fusion coils. This take 400 chrome ingots, which means at least 1440 ruby ores need to be mined (that's if you can process them properly, if not, then over 3000). You also need 400 titanium, which means you need like 10,000 bauxite ores. No joke... Then you need ender pearls, and it's a ridiculous number in the thousands as well, I haven't done the math for that one.
I like that Gregtech takes a long time, and I appreciate that the fusion reactor is overpowered, so it should take a while. But I mean 1440 ruby ores!?!?!? It's just mindless grinding for literally dozens of hours. I like that it makes you go back to mining the old way, and it gets you back underground, but it's just way too high of numbers in my opinion.

I really think this particular aspect should be nerfed a little bit. I know it's meant to be multiplayer, but I mean, even if you have a team of a dozen people (which most people don't) it's still going to take hours upon hours form each player, just mindlessly grinding for rubies and bauxite.

That being said, the fusion reactor is so awesomely fun the way it's made and how it works (done it in creative to try it out).

 

[Abdiel]

The challenge isn't supposed to be about manually grinding thousands of ores. The challenge is to build an automated system to produce them for you. Even with GT alone both can be made automatically from UU matter. Other FTB mods add many different ways to automatically create all of the components - an automated quarry being just one of them. Once you have automation running that will produce chrome and titanium for you, it's just a matter of scale vs. time you have to wait to get enough. None of this requires manual grinding, at least nowhere near the scale you'd need to do if you refuse to automate.

That's my favorite aspect of GT, it gives you strong incentives for automating machinery and building more complex setups than just a bunch of machines that you put stuff in by hand. No other mod really does that. For everything else, automation is just a slight convenience, never the way to accomplish some goal.

 

[SeniLiX]

The Fusion reactor is the ultimate goal for a lot of players. When you finally get it, you got one of the (if not the) most powerful generators in FTB. A machine like that should not be cheap at all.

 

[Cosmology27]

I have a quarry with an automated filtering system.
I've mined about 40 full chunks down to bedrock. By doing this I maybe got about 1/5 the way there? And that took a long time. I find mining it personally to be far more effective.
I agree about the machines though, it does drive you to do that, and I love it.
I also agree the fusion reactor shouldn't be cheap. It should be super complicated, which it is. But mindless grinding shouldn't be the point.

As for the UU aspect. It requires so much UU to produce these materials that the only real way to utilize it effectively would be with either a fusion reactor (which is what you want) or tons of another EU means like UHSP, which require so much iridium you'd need a fusion reactor to get it all. (I have 3.5 worth of UHSP, it took about 5 hours to mine that much iridium, JUST for those).

So far I haven't had a problem, and I'm almost at end game. It's just these fusion coils that require way too many hours of grinding. I suppose I should open up like 6 quarries all at 9 chunks each. I think I'll need more chests though, haha.

 

[EternalDensity]

I would post a screenshot of a coplayer's stock of many thousands of stacks of enderpearls, but his warded room is locked

 

[ApSciLiara]

I would post a screenshot of a coplayer's stock of many thousands of stacks of enderpearls, but his warded room is locked

You can portal gun into DoctorOr's matter fabrication room if you like, by firing a portal through the hole that his lightning rod comes out of. At least until he fixes that security hole. I can think of at least one way to do that.

 

[EternalDensity]

You can portal gun into DoctorOr's matter fabrication room if you like, by firing a portal through the hole that his lightning rod comes out of. At least until he fixes that security hole. I can think of at least one way to do that.

I've never been in his base and don't know where it is

 

[Cosmology27]

The ender pearls aren't so bad. I have a tier 5 Enderman soul cage set up with a 40 block drop or so. They land in a little pit with very low HP, I then hit them with my lootingIII sword, and they drop tons of pearls. I've gone through about 2000 so far I think? Still need many, many more, so I'm guessing it's in the 10s of thousands that you need.
I can't even imagine this without the soul shards mod.... that would just be scary. massive torture factory in the End?

 

[heggico]

ender spawner->infinite ender pearls
witch spawner->redstone->ruby dust->chrome

So, the only real problem I have is the iridium (which i'll get from uu-matter most likely), and titanium. I've yet to find a way to get titanium without bauxite except for uu-matter

 

[isnowcrash]

I really think this particular aspect should be nerfed a little bit.

You will find it much harder to make once the new fusion reactors are out for FTB. The amount of chrome and titanium is probably triple what is now.

I can't even imagine this without the soul shards mod.... that would just be scary. massive torture factory in the End?

A vanilla style piston pusher mob trap in the end is fairly easy to make.

If you have someone messing with bee's on your server its very easy to get the titanium and ruby dust you need. I have two alveary with 9 frame housings each. I ran two sets of Impregnable bees for one day and had over 1k titanium. Ruby will be even faster with this set up. If not with bee's then you could try and get a tier 5 witch spawner and centrifuge the redstone for the ruby dust.

 

[Cosmology27]

Wait! Please explain this witch-redstone-ruby process to me! I don't get it.

And isnowcrash, you're saying they're going to change it up for the next update or something? is the fusion reactor going away, or just getting changed, or what's up?

 

[EternalDensity]

Wait! Please explain this witch-redstone-ruby process to me! I don't get it.

And isnowcrash, you're saying they're going to change it up for the next update or something? is the fusion reactor going away, or just getting changed, or what's up?

Witches drop redstone, so if you can spawn witches you can get unlimited redstone.
Redstone can be centrifuged for ruby dust, thus making you the best swordsman in the world.

 

[Ako_the_Builder]

As others have said it's not about grinding, it's about having robust automation, my titanium is produced automatically because bauxite from my quarry gets proccessed, for chrome I just have to throw some rubys into a macerator and the rest is done from there, or if I'm low on rubys; 30 redstone centrifuged gets enough ruby dust for 1 chrome.

Without soul shards the ender pearls would be harsh, I think its 24576 ender pearls required. Other only option the berylium is emeralds, bees could handle both.

 

[Bloodfrost]

Yeah honestly there is ways to get the Rubys... setting up centrifuging of redstone which can be created via UU-Matter, which i would assume you would have a lot of if you were at the point of wanting to make a Fusion reactor. Also you could do Bee's and get to Ruby bees and get Ruby comb, thats what i had my wife do for me... and you can automate them as well. Ruby REALLY isnt that big of a problem.[DOUBLEPOST=1366010088][/DOUBLEPOST]

ender spawner->infinite ender pearls
witch spawner->redstone->ruby dust->chrome

So, the only real problem I have is the iridium (which i'll get from uu-matter most likely), and titanium. I've yet to find a way to get titanium without bauxite except for uu-matter

Once again Bee's... you can get Bauxite dust from bees... Bee's are pretty damn hardcore, you can pretty much get anything from them <including iridium>.

 

[ApSciLiara]

Once again Bee's... you can get Bauxite dust from bees... Bee's are pretty damn hardcore, you can pretty much get anything from them <including iridium>.

You can't get quartz from bees.
Yet.

 

[isnowcrash]

Wait! Please explain this witch-redstone-ruby process to me! I don't get it.

And isnowcrash, you're saying they're going to change it up for the next update or something? is the fusion reactor going away, or just getting changed, or what's up?

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[Ako_the_Builder]

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loving the size of that thing, may have to update gregtech and have a look

 

[bigtwisty]

I have a quarry with an automated filtering system.
I've mined about 40 full chunks down to bedrock. By doing this I maybe got about 1/5 the way there? And that took a long time. I find mining it personally to be far more effective.

Actually, a quarry is one of the slowest and most inefficient methods of automated mining in the game. You can mine faster and more efficiently with 2 turtles, a mining well and a redstone cell (roughly 600 blocks per minute). If you are at the point where you are looking to make the most powerful device in the game, you should have the technology to strip mine at a MUCH higher rate than that (see DW20's mining well frameship).

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[BanzaiBlitz]

I knew the fusion reactor was getting a beefy upgrade in it's functions but now that I've seen it, I see gleeful titanic tanks buffering energy production.

Oh my base just doubled in size at least to accomodate this properly. Please let plasma generate light when passing through liquiducts! *death of joy*

 

[Ako_the_Builder]

Actually, a quarry is one of the slowest and most inefficient methods of automated mining in the game.

I built a fusion reactor fine just using quarries. I know thy're not everyone's favourite form of mass resource gathering but your post makes it sound like endgame is unreachable using quarries, they're fine.