I think we can do better than Direwolf20

[ICountFrom0]

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Once again, turtles.

Yes, they are versatile. Yes they are powerful. But why makes them the solution to every question?

I've got a lovely idea, but for it to work you have to be able to push wrath lamps with a sticky piston. Would somebody with factorization test to see if you can? If you can't I'll do it with frames, but feel less impressive.

How about you folks, think you can design auto-lights better then him?

 

[VikeStep]

Latest video: LINK

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Once again, turtles.

Yes, they are versatile. Yes they are powerful. But why makes them the solution to every question?

I've got a lovely idea, but for it to work you have to be able to push wrath lamps with a sticky piston.

How about you folks, think you can design auto-lights better then him?

I disagree, I believe that everything can be done better with turtles. Maybe thats just because I am a programmer that enjoys programming.

 

[Golrith]

Have to agree, I saw turtles, and I was like "Turtles again? really? Yawn"

So far in my game world, the only CC stuff I've done is a computer acting as a timer to control 3 different actions. Would have used the red power timer, but that's flakey and prone to crashing.


Turtles are powerful, but not very creative (in my option only )

 

[PeggleFrank]

Turtles are basically a coders' response to having somebody tell them that something isn't possible.

"F*** you, I'll just write some code and make it possible"


I'm a terrible coder so I prefer to do things the hard but creative way. That also probably explains why I like to make factories using buildcraft rather than AE or TE, simply because in the end I get a huge mess of pipes everywhere and it looks awesome. I also love to just use normal solar panels over the compressed solar panels, so I have to have tons of space for a solar factory. Makes it more realistic, in a way.


You can do anything with turtles, so it's not very impressive to do something using them. Turtles are like easy mode, deployers/block breakers/frames are like medium, and pistons with dispensers are like hard mode. Nobody cares if you can do something with turtles. Frames are slightly more interesting, but still quite boring. And if you make something using pistons that does something cool, you're a god at engineering.

 

[the_j485]

I agree personally, I don't like turtles, as they require learning of LUA. Now, I'm not saying they're rubbish, it's just I don't like things I don't understand, and they are very versatile.
Gimme a sec and I'll test if tehy can be pushed.

 

[whizzball1]

I'm going to guess that this idea has something to do with the invisible light blocks that the Wrath Lamp creates.

 

[Fuzzlewhumper]

Took him 12 minutes before he said only a turtle for this job.

 

[Grydian2]

I have no problem with turtles being used when a build wouldnt work otherwise. Like the automatic mining machine without frames.. However I get annoyed when its used excessivly. They are too cheap! I use turtles and I find them really really OP. I wish the recipe was much more expensive, I wish they used more fuel. etc.. The fact you can replace a quarry easily with 1 turtle and require almost zero resources is insane..

 

[dwappo]

Turtles are only "op" if you have the knowledge to use them. Otherwise you have people sitting there complaining they are too hard to use. Even though I don't know much about coding (yet) I'm glad to see what kinds of things they can do.

You know what they say, all toasters toast toast.

 

[ICountFrom0]

At least for them being far more efficient quarries, then a real quarry...

http://bit.ly/14CMbKw

About 45 seconds to copy and paste a few times?

Lets face it, as long as somebody does the hard work, there will be a turtle to do it better then any other tool.

The good news is that with tools starting to have wear on them turtle quarries will slowly look less and less useful.


Anyway, I think this topic calls for less complaining about turtles being a too easy swiss army tool (though when is the last time you try to use those scissors for anything?) and needs a little more "it goes something like THIS".

Latest design is a disc shaped UFO with downward facing deployer and blockbreaker. When the light is low enough (I pick just darker then the least to use a bed) it triggers off a set of state cells. First deploys the lamp, then slides right, then waits the full time of night, then the blockbreaker, then slides left. I think I can be more exact then state cells with more complicated details, but this "just works". I'm thinking V2 will have a lamp next to the light sensor so that it also glows upward, as well as down... just because I can.

Somebody want to try to tinker with the wrathlight and piston design some? Or just top it?

 

[KirinDave]

Latest video: LINK

See?

Once again, turtles.

Yes, they are versatile. Yes they are powerful. But why makes them the solution to every question?

I've got a lovely idea, but for it to work you have to be able to push wrath lamps with a sticky piston. Would somebody with factorization test to see if you can? If you can't I'll do it with frames, but feel less impressive.

How about you folks, think you can design auto-lights better then him?

Actually, I was bored for a different reason. If you're going to do this, then do it a fun way. Make the turtles park themselves in a storage bay and at dusk file out using turtle GPS to automatically assume positions Double points if they know the bounds of dires base and automatically decide how to light that volume. That'd be a beautiful and cool lighting system worth using turtles on.

Because all he did was cut the volume of a few blocks from a super-boring RP2 design. If he had done that, I would have contemplated unsubbing, because that would have been The Most Boring Build Ever.

One of the Resonant Rise testers did a really epic video using liquid glowstone as a lighting system, letting it flow around in response to vanilla daylight sensors. You should check that out. It's one of the more beautiful and interesting lighting rigs I've seen. I've considered having bucket turtles do it.[DOUBLEPOST=1371316364][/DOUBLEPOST]

At least for them being far more efficient quarries, then a real quarry...

http://bit.ly/14CMbKw

About 45 seconds to copy and paste a few times?.

Most of which don't work right. Just sayin'.

I actually like turtle quarries. They're actually much more challenging than BC quarries or mining lasers to automate well. You know someone has it together when their turtles can dump off their yields into automation hoppers, refuel, and the continue working.

And OpenPeripherals is basically cooler than every other mod, cooler than you, and cooler than me.

 

[whizzball1]

Yeah Dave, when I saw that you had it in your Modpack, I checked it out.
It'll be nice for the programmers.
CLARIFICATION: I am not a programmer in Lua, but I know useful when it comes in front of my face.

 

[PhilHibbs]

Once again, turtles.
Yes, they are versatile. Yes they are powerful. But why makes them the solution to every question?

Nonsense. Yes, he's used turtles a few times, but he's used ResPower2 a few times, he's used Thermal Expansion a lot more times, and Buildcraft even more than that, do you groan every time he makes an Autarchic Gate? He's used golems about as many times as he's used turtles. I see no complaints.

 

[ICountFrom0]

Mobtrap, trutles.
forgecraft quarry, turtles.
Lights, turtles.

Three projects in a row, turtles.

 

[casilleroatr]

I think turtles are fun and in fairness, Dire's new lighting system uses 9 diamonds for the turtles just for what he has done so far. I am currently learning Lua so actually like when Dire goes through the code and does turtle builds. However I thought this program could have been better and I have seen Dire making much better programs than that. I guess he did it as simplistically as he did because it seems a lot of viewers don't like turtle builds and it was world download episode.

If you're going to do this, then do it a fun way. Make the turtles park themselves in a storage bay and at dusk file out using turtle GPS to automatically assume positions Double points if they know the bounds of dires base and automatically decide how to light that volume. That'd be a beautiful and cool lighting system worth using turtles on.

It would be like a company of turtle ballerinas bounding onto the stage, pirouetting as they go, to display wrath lamps at their stations.

Tonight! At the Royal Minecraft Opera House, Turtle ID#24 is the White Swan and Turtle ID#56 is the Black Swan!

You should do that in your magical forest base with the lovely pink illuminators.

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Just a small question to anyone with programming knowledge. Is it more computationally efficient for the turtle to be repeating its function once every ten seconds or is it better to wait for an event and then do its function and then loop back to waiting for an event? (I know this question may sound dumb, but I don't know exactly what the turtle is doing while it is waiting for an event).

 

[dgdas9]

Latest video: LINK

See?

Once again, turtles.

Yes, they are versatile. Yes they are powerful. But why makes them the solution to every question?

I've got a lovely idea, but for it to work you have to be able to push wrath lamps with a sticky piston. Would somebody with factorization test to see if you can? If you can't I'll do it with frames, but feel less impressive.

How about you folks, think you can design auto-lights better then him?

Your avatar was my face when I watched him using turtles once again...

 

[Bigglesworth]

Going to turtles to solve every problem is cheap and uncreative.
Even the turtle loving Guude understands this

 

[GPuzzle]

I don't know how to use turtles or CC so I just use Rednet/RP2 Logic.
I think it's cooler, altough more space is required.

 

[PeggleFrank]

I don't know how to use turtles or CC so I just use Rednet/RP2 Logic.
I think it's cooler, altough more space is required.

Now that I think about it, turtles are just huge redstone contraptions that you have to type instead of place.

Literally little to no difference between turtles and physical logic (redstone gates).

 

[Bigglesworth]

I don't know how to use turtles or CC so I just use Rednet/RP2 Logic.
I think it's cooler, altough more space is required.

Thats how the majority of it should be done. It really teaches logic to its very core. LUA is great but you wont gain the sort of appreciation and understanding that you do using gates. I think DW is just running out of shit to do.