Agreed. Turtles are a 'do anything you want and get away with it' mod. It's even more powerful than an MFR PRC, and that's saying something.
I think we can do better than Direwolf20
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'do anything you want and get away with it'. Makes it sound like direwolf is a vigilante running from the law. Did he rob a bank with a fleet of turtles?
It's actually a quote from the first live-action Transformers movie, from an MIB-type agent... 'do anything you want and get away with it badge', while brandishing his ID.
I am imagining the opening scene of the dark knight with all of the clowns replaced by turtles. (The joker is motivated by a random number generator)
Let's see... we'll need some planning to pull off this heist. Basically, you get blueprints of aforementioned bank. Then you set up all the criteria you want. Set up a conditional so that if turtle.move returns false, it responds with turtle.attack to kill whatever is in the way, then proceeds. Set up a basic search grid. Then you've got one turtle with a mining laser which goes in once the other turtles have pacified the area that blows open the safe, then does a left-wall algorithm with turtle.suck at each step to get all the cash. Then all turtles proceed with turtle.move to the getaway vehicle.
I knew you'd be mad. I watched and said, "He'll be mad." But there is literally no other way to do it, so write a mod to actually provide slotwise inventory management or continue to rage impotently. There is no other build in that modpack.
RP2 + Linkbook Stands + Bundled Cable. Like he did last season.
Just watched the video. I thought this was a nice best of both worlds episode. There was a bit of computercraft and a redpower logic circuit! To be honest, I wish I had seen that months ago when I tried to make a secret piston door. I must of spent hours on that circuit!
Wouldn't the bundled cable solution only support a maximum of 16 linking books, just like a turtle's own inventory. He went with the solution he did because he wanted to have support for loads of ages. Last season's nexus episodes were good though and I actually thought that was a very nice aesthetic build too!
On the other hand, would the sortron be able to do this. I have never used it before but from what I have seen of it, it appears to be able to pull from specific slots. Can it push into specific slots too? (Even then, I would like to be able to replicate some of direwolf's builds in a 1.5.2 build).
Wouldn't the bundled cable solution only support a maximum of 16 linking books, just like a turtle's own inventory. He went with the solution he did because he wanted to have support for loads of ages. Last season's nexus episodes were good though and I actually thought that was a very nice aesthetic build too!
On the other hand, would the sortron be able to do this. I have never used it before but from what I have seen of it, it appears to be able to pull from specific slots. Can it push into specific slots too? (Even then, I would like to be able to replicate some of direwolf's builds in a 1.5.2 build).
You responded while I was still writing but I think you addressed my suggestion that rp2 could only handle 16 signals. So the 16 colours all have a different value attached between 2^1 and 2^16. I can see how you can add the colours and I know computercraft supports that. But I still don't see how you could make a system with redpower that is able to output in such a way that if you request a linking book that responds only when 2^x and 2^y are both on, how you wouldn't just get the both linking books from 2^x and 2^y separately, at least not without a horrendously cumbersome array of AND gates. At this point I would like to reiterate that I don't know what the sortron is capable of. I would be interested to know how you could achieve a system that handles more than 16 outputs that doesn't use computercraft except for some user input front end stuff.
Nope, your forgetting that a RP2 computer can change the signal "level" and first select what SET of 16, and then from any within that set.
For example, here's a vid that even shows that he knows how it works, as the clock in wrenched used the same concept
Also, as computercraft would be setting wires 1, 2, and 3 at the same time, it's trivial for the redpower 2 side to see that computercraft is requesting that you set book 7 in the frame. Because, lets face it, it would NEVER be sending books 1, 2, and 4 at the same time, the slot only can hold one book.
For example, here's a vid that even shows that he knows how it works, as the clock in wrenched used the same concept
Also, as computercraft would be setting wires 1, 2, and 3 at the same time, it's trivial for the redpower 2 side to see that computercraft is requesting that you set book 7 in the frame. Because, lets face it, it would NEVER be sending books 1, 2, and 4 at the same time, the slot only can hold one book.
The main problems with illuminators is that you have to use glass fiber or you lose tons of energy for the long distance, otherwise if you could use copper cable they would be ok
Thanks for linking that it was cool. I knew that Direwolf was thinking of doing a video on that but I never saw it.
I should also have admitted that in addition to knowing nothing about the sortron I knew nothing much about the computers in redpower at all. The only thing I would say is that I wouldn't find it trivial! Lua seems to be way more accessible from Forth in my opinion.
I know I was wrong about redpower not being able to do this but I am still inclined to think that the computer craft solution is easier to do and easier to understand. Would a redpower solution be more expandable than the turtle solution in Direwolf's lets play? I think the turtle program that Dire used is limited by the size of the Diamond chest which is the biggest inventory in the pack as far as I know.
Well, I thought his build was exactly right. It was multi-mod, used computercraft for exactly what it excels at, and was not an over-investment of effort for a portal system. I'll probably try and recreate it with improvements.
So for me, the lighting and portal builds have been the first good episodes in quite awhile. My only complaint is that he could have been more ambitious with the monitor UX.
So for me, the lighting and portal builds have been the first good episodes in quite awhile. My only complaint is that he could have been more ambitious with the monitor UX.
I am nearly up to that point in the season 4 lets play so I will watch it soon. Season 5 is the first I have been watching "live" so to speak, as I only recently got into minecraft. I am watching season 4 when I have time so I will see that in a little while, sounds cool though.
Lately I have been enjoying the server play episodes a little more. I enjoy Direwolf's contributions as always but playing guess what Jaded said is always fun and Soaryn is back now so that's cool!
Lately I have been enjoying the server play episodes a little more. I enjoy Direwolf's contributions as always but playing guess what Jaded said is always fun and Soaryn is back now so that's cool!
Of course, you can have multiple I/O Controllers on an RP2 computer. As many as you want, really. So you simply have two figures to remember for each book, which I/O Controller it is attached to, and which color on that I/O it is. Not that hard.
I use turtles only if there isn't any other way, or if I just feel too lazy to do it a different way. I'm decent at programming turtles but I rarely use them. The only time I've used them so far in my survival world is to create an auto XP farm in tandem with brains-in-jars. Other things I have programmed in the past however include a universal controller for a Redpower elevator and a full-auto minecart breeding/slaughterhouse factory.
I loved redpower but never got up to the computer stage. I am not ashamed to admit that I find them intimidating either. The strange thing is I understand the principle about remembering two values is not exactly difficult, but right now I am having way too much fun messing about in minecraft 1.5.2 so I am not planning on learning forth if/until I start playing redpower again. When I do get into mystcraft on my current game I think I will use something similar to Direwolf's method and it does have the advantage of being possible in 1.4.7 and 1.5.2+.