Gregtech & the omniwrench

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Should greg allow the omniwrench to be used on his machines?


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ILoveGregTech

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Your opinion on what is OP and what is not is entirely dismissable based purely on what your name is...

Two diamonds, 1 gold, 2 cyan wool for a wrench that can move/orient/pick up any machine/block in the game is OP
Diamonds are not hard to find
Cyan wool: the hardest part is the cyan and cacti are easy to find
 

DoctorOr

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The MFR GT recipes are done by us (technically Emy, I only touch them if I need to fix something that broke). We reached out to greg for assistance creating them and he told us he had no idea what MFR was or did and as such was not going to help us, so they were done as a rough "well this seems kind of greggy I guess??" estimate of how they would play with GT installed. But we've gotten nearly zero feedback on that.

They're pretty much what somebody who has only heard complaints about GregTech would come up with to match them. In reality, they're a bit harder than they should be. I've never bothered to feedback on it because a) Our server uses TE recipes and b) The TE recipes are also significantly harder than they should be (tesseracts, really?) if you were matching TE difficulty, so I presumed the difficulty was intentional.

Your GT recipes are not as silly as MachineMuse's GT recipes though.
 

power crystals

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Well here's some feedback, the single use safari net seems kind of expensive. Two circuits for a single use item that lets you move a mob from point a to point b seems a bit... On the other hand, the reusable one seems to cheap. All you're doing is replacing two enderpearls with 2 advanced circuits which are easier to get early game (before the end/enderman farm). For the single-use one I'm not sure how to change it other than instead of circuits just using copper cables, but for the reusable one making it have 4 advanced circuits in addition to the enderpearls seems like a very "greggy" thing to do.

They're pretty much what somebody who has only heard complaints about GregTech would come up with to match them. In reality, they're a bit harder than they should be. I've never bothered to feedback on it because a) Our server uses TE recipes and b) The TE recipes are also significantly harder than they should be (tesseracts, really?) if you were matching TE difficulty, so I presumed the difficulty was intentional.

Your GT recipes are not as silly as MachineMuse's GT recipes though.

I will take this into consideration, thanks! They're both intended to be above-average difficult because the only reason to activate them is that you don't think the vanilla ones are difficult or resource-intensive enough, but the GT ones are hampered by our unfamiliarity with GT.
 

ILoveGregTech

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I will take this into consideration, thanks! They're both intended to be above-average difficult because the only reason to activate them is that you don't think the vanilla ones are difficult or resource-intensive enough, but the GT ones are hampered by our unfamiliarity with GT.
I may be able to help
Just tell me what you need a recipe for and what the thing does
 

Dackstrus

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And that is based on what? Gameplay? Balance? Or just the fact that you dont like the mod author -_-
I actually don't have any feelings twords Greg except that he's getting really crazy with his "It's my way or nothing" Shenanigans.

Have no doubts, There are PARTS of his mod i find invaluable. And a few major patches ago, i did'nt mind if GT was installed or not. His Lords Word Of Balance however has gotten out of control, And is simply alienating the majority of users of his mod.

Theres also the very likelihood that it's going to go much further then it has now.

Honestly, If Greg wants a mod to work off of, He should leave IC craft alone and go work on a electricity system for TerraFirmaCraft. His realistic balance and such would do great wonders there. To the normal modding scene, he's becoming a nuisance.
 

Saice

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? That doesn't make sense
Are you talking to me or power?

To you. You said you can help him make recipes. And asked him what he needs. He stated he has recipes for his machines. So you go basiclly just load up his mod look at his machines. If you wanted to help you would then look at all the machines he has in his mod and come up with your idea for GT recipes for them and submit them to him.

Hes not missing any at this time that I know of. So if your waiting for something new that might be some time. If you are wanting to improve what he has that whould be all the machines in his mod.
 

ILoveGregTech

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Ok that makes a whole lot more sense and normally I would do that but I don't have a whole lot of time.. I haven't seen his recipes so I don't know if they would be kept in the same standards as "GT recipes" but I will I guess look at them and see if they need adjusting
 

King Lemming

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Two diamonds, 1 gold, 2 cyan wool for a wrench that can move/orient/pick up any machine/block in the game is OP
Diamonds are not hard to find
Cyan wool: the hardest part is the cyan and cacti are easy to find

Really? You think the ability to orient stuff is OP? Dear god I can't wait til you figure out how to make a pickaxe. It's crazy, you can dig up STONE with them.
 

ILoveGregTech

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Really? You think the ability to orient stuff is OP? Dear god I can't wait til you figure out how to make a pickaxe. It's crazy, you can dig up STONE with them.
Not orient them but pick up machines without them breaking into machine blocks
Don't get me wrong I love your mod(s) just I think the wrench needs some durability say maybe 2/3 of diamond tools? So ~ 1000
 

Dackstrus

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Not orient them but pick up machines without them breaking into machine blocks
Don't get me wrong I love your mod(s) just I think the wrench needs some durability say maybe 2/3 of diamond tools? So ~ 1000
You know, IRL, I don't need a wrench to move my washing machine. Nor even my oven. Where did this whole wrench thing come from in the first place?
 
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NosePicker5555

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Not orient them but pick up machines without them breaking into machine blocks
Don't get me wrong I love your mod(s) just I think the wrench needs some durability say maybe 2/3 of diamond tools? So ~ 1000

It's a wrench. I believe it's perfectly fine how it is and should not be changed. When you work so hard at making/orientating a machine isn't it kind-of point-less to make the machine break right when you try to pick it up?
 
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Saice

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You know... How often does someone enjoy the random chance of there hard work breaking even when they use the right tool? Yes there is a lossless mode that using more power which really can arguebly be said is cheaper then the 2 diamonds the omni wrench needs since you need power anyways it not like your building anything extra.

GT machines already are prone to explode or break. Why is picking them up seen as so OP?
 
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