Gregtech & the omniwrench
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its funny to watch gregs reaction, when other mods only has compatibility for his mod, but its ok for him to mess around with other mods.
Yeah greg really just gave the bird to every other mod that has hammer/wrenches You think it should be a cretin way? TOO BAD ITS MINE NOW! I mean really greg? really? Sigh if he doesnt stop breaking his mod I might have to give up on it.
That's not the situation at all, but no ignorant statement about Greg will ever go unsaid on this forum.
Actually the omniwrench is designed to not break. Greg is changing that. IE yes he is messing around with other mods. I have dug through his mess endlessly and YES greg messes with everything. Forestry bronze would be a good starting point. Classic and well argued out. It lead to the item The holy planks of sirsengir... Direwolf20 was asked about gregtech and he says he doesnt use it because it changes other mods.. Its real clear greg does changes other mods. So I have no idea what you are talking about DrOr...
Wrong again. Greg is changing only his machines. He hasn't touched, nor threatend to touch, the Omniwrench.
Opinions are yours, but facts are not under debate.
He is changing how wrenches work so that the machine decides but is disallowing wrenches with no durability to work. He specifically said in his forum this was about the omniwrench. Which directly conflicts with the functioning of that mod with the intention of destroying that function. How is this only about his machines? Its obvious his intent is to change another persons hard work to suit his own ideas of balance.
Machines have always "decided" to drop or not. This is unchanged.
So you are upset that he has decided to isolate his mod from interactions with others. Could you please point me to posts you made about Eloraam where you rant about the same thing?
Or, perhaps, you're being biased.
Has anyone even noticed that those new wrenches on the other hand remove the xx% drop chance and you now get your machine back 100% of the time!
Despite him beeing a dick sometimes i still like his mod and even some of the nerfs. And if he doesn't want any unbreakable wrench to be able to dismantle his machines he has every right to make sure it wont do it.
Now if KL finds a way around it thats fortunate for us for as long as it works.
Despite him beeing a dick sometimes i still like his mod and even some of the nerfs. And if he doesn't want any unbreakable wrench to be able to dismantle his machines he has every right to make sure it wont do it.
Now if KL finds a way around it thats fortunate for us for as long as it works.
obviously you need to read the gregtech forum. You dont know what you are saying. He has changed the wrench api so that the machine decides how much durability is taken off of the wrench. This is a change. You can check it out yourself if you dont believe me but he is specifically targeting the omniwrench. A tool that he did not make nor is in his mod. He has no reason to be like this. If people dont want that power of the omniwrench they can just not install it.
I know exactly what he's saying. It's clear you do not.
The IC2 wrench api remains unchanged. His machines use a new api. He is changing only his machines.
lol ok well dr or in the goal of not creating a flame war I wont go for your bait but read what greg has said. I know you post there. but anyways enjoy your sunday and remember its a game your tone is not wanted
It would be trivial to "work around it", just like it would be trivial to insert items into redpower pipes, and trivial to convert to and from blutricity.
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When facts are "bait", you're the one with the issue. Again, I've read what Greg posted, and it's clear I understand what it means whereas you do not.
Well, there's a minor difference. I have the OmniWrench working with Greg's new system without any reflective hacks; I am playing entirely by the rules of his API. I'm not sure if I actually want to release it or not though, as he'll no doubt view it as an escalation of some sort.
Can (or rather, could) convert to and from blutricity without any reflection as well. Just update block meta data.
Since this is already a Greg Flame Thread i might as well tender the flames.
I voted that Greg should not have to allow use of the omniwrench on his machines. While you may think I'm a douch to say this i'll explain.
Modders make mods right? Ic2 was made, had machines to do shit, wrenches to pick them up and elecetrical one to pick them up with no chance of loss.
Greg makes his addon for ic2. He has machines, which also require the ic2 wrenches and elec wrenches to pick them up.
Other modders make their mods, with their own machines in, and think, hey(!), i know what, a wrench can pick the machine up instantly(TE) or be required
Another modder makes an omni wrench for compatability, so you can walk round with one wrench rather than 2-3.
Greg sees this and knows this will affects his machines...Did you notice something then? I said "his" machines. Hes made it so it only doesnt affect the machines which he has added.
People get mad that the omni wrench now no longer works on gregs machines, but he's perfectly entitled to make it not do so as it is his mod with its own balance ways (albeit a little..different)
In short:
Greg made the addon, he made it in the ic2 way of wrenches, he wants to keep it that way with their own wrenches as I'm 99% sure that ic2 came out before any of the other mods. So what if you have to carry around 2 wrenches, there's backpacks which you can have which is a whole extra chest as space fer gods sake.
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I voted that Greg should not have to allow use of the omniwrench on his machines. While you may think I'm a douch to say this i'll explain.
Modders make mods right? Ic2 was made, had machines to do shit, wrenches to pick them up and elecetrical one to pick them up with no chance of loss.
Greg makes his addon for ic2. He has machines, which also require the ic2 wrenches and elec wrenches to pick them up.
Other modders make their mods, with their own machines in, and think, hey(!), i know what, a wrench can pick the machine up instantly(TE) or be required
Another modder makes an omni wrench for compatability, so you can walk round with one wrench rather than 2-3.
Greg sees this and knows this will affects his machines...Did you notice something then? I said "his" machines. Hes made it so it only doesnt affect the machines which he has added.
People get mad that the omni wrench now no longer works on gregs machines, but he's perfectly entitled to make it not do so as it is his mod with its own balance ways (albeit a little..different)
In short:
Greg made the addon, he made it in the ic2 way of wrenches, he wants to keep it that way with their own wrenches as I'm 99% sure that ic2 came out before any of the other mods. So what if you have to carry around 2 wrenches, there's backpacks which you can have which is a whole extra chest as space fer gods sake.
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It'd be a legitimate argument if Greg treated other mods the same way. As is, he has basically copied (although poorly) the OmniWrench functionality and put in an arbitrary limitation for his own machines. So it's less about "I want it to work this way" and more about "I want my mod to be the only one people use for anything."
Do unto others and all that...