I am still a bit new to the FTB scene so I don't know how many awesome loops there are to generate mass amounts of EU but I found one. You can turn 4 redstone and 3 copper wire into 65K EU! Redstone in an industrial centrifuge gets you 3 mercury cells for 35K EU. you can make those cells into 96 single use batteries which you can put in a bat box/MFE/MFSU for 96K!
Get Tons of Unlimited EU!
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Unlimited energy if you have unlimited redstone, copper, tin and rubber i guess.
Copper oreberries!
Oh wait...
and dont think about centrif lava. It will be more efficient to burn the lava directly.
true but then you can put the extra energy into a Quarry or something. 1 Bar of Copper is 64K EU, so 29K extra per bar can probably re circuit the energy into something. Also Pulverizing or macerating the ore will turn it into 2 bars or 96K extra per ore[DOUBLEPOST=1376964789][/DOUBLEPOST]
No tin, just redstone, copper and rubber. I would call a 3x Energy turnaround good for that
EDIT: OHHHH Cells... nvm
Now that I think about it there's a copper bee, and bees give you unlimited rubber from propolis anyway. It would be a really funky late-game way of powering a base but all the inputs are things you might already farm, and it's better than a void pipe or putting it in a DSU and never using it.
The redstone could come from more bees or a MFR witch farm.
Given that it already requires GregTech for centrifuging redstone, you already have an unlimited renewable source of copper.
4 redstone for 65k energy? Isn't that just over three buckets of lava? And that's ignoring the copper alltogether...
So, if I want say one MFE of energy I can choose between:
1 geothermal + 1 bucket + a little bit from a lava lake or
a basic energy setup + 1 centrifuge + 36 redstone + 10 copper + 20 rubber
Yeah I'll keep to the geothermal.[DOUBLEPOST=1376978706][/DOUBLEPOST]
So, if I want say one MFE of energy I can choose between:
1 geothermal + 1 bucket + a little bit from a lava lake or
a basic energy setup + 1 centrifuge + 36 redstone + 10 copper + 20 rubber
Yeah I'll keep to the geothermal.[DOUBLEPOST=1376978706][/DOUBLEPOST]
which requires even more setup (and much more wait) when you could just have used the lava for energy directly.
Wiremill nets you three copper wire from one ingot, Centrifuge boosts rubber. Process rubber wood in the centrifuge for methane which provides more energy, rubber and resin, along with plant balls which can be processed into biofuel with an extractor. That'll generate more power in the gas turbine and semifluid generators, letting you run the centrifuge.
So now we're looking at a centrifuge for redstone, a centrifuge for copper, a centrifuge for rubber, some kind of rubber farm, a wiremill, and energy to keep all these going to get a mediocre amount of energy.
I think at that point just slapping down an MFR woodfarm, (induction) furnace and basic generators will give you a lot more bang for your buck. Or going magma crucible>lava engine+geothermal. Or going mfr sugarcane farm > fermenter > still > generator. Or a LOT of other methods that both make more sense than creating single-use batteries to use in your power plant and are easier and more effective.[DOUBLEPOST=1377004630][/DOUBLEPOST]Edit: And it's not even really to get a mediocre amount of energy, it's to turn the always useful redstone into a mediocre amount of energy.
I think at that point just slapping down an MFR woodfarm, (induction) furnace and basic generators will give you a lot more bang for your buck. Or going magma crucible>lava engine+geothermal. Or going mfr sugarcane farm > fermenter > still > generator. Or a LOT of other methods that both make more sense than creating single-use batteries to use in your power plant and are easier and more effective.[DOUBLEPOST=1377004630][/DOUBLEPOST]Edit: And it's not even really to get a mediocre amount of energy, it's to turn the always useful redstone into a mediocre amount of energy.
Yeah, sure. Just too bad it's too inefficient to really consider though. Is it even energy positive? I'm not sure since it takes quite a lot of power for all those centrifuges? But mostly anything can be made into energy some way or another, and it's easy to come up with odd ways to get power; sludge boiler > macerator > centrifuge/electrolyze clay dust > lithium/sodium > generator/firebox. Whether or not it's efficient enough to be a valid method of power in some circumstance (whether it's useful early game, or automatically renewable, or unusually compact or whatever) determines whether it's really a useful find though. Not saying it has to be like a mfr charcoal farm, it doesn't have to be "the best", but if using a non-renewable resource and requiring a medium-sized setup it should at least give an output comparable to the "decent but not good" renewable resources requiring similar setup (such as lava power)
How is this 'unlimited' if you need redstone? I mean, this is just as unlimited as burning coal or forcegems.
If you can't think of at least three ways to get unlimited redstone without ever leaving your base, you don't know the mods at all.
You know what are unlimited? UH Solar panels. They work well even during the night. I'm not going to repeat what everyone has already said.
An actual energy loop would be giving a set of machines an initial input, process everything and create energy, then take the resultant energy and output, and process it in some way that then feeds the input again.
This method and most, are actually complex production chains, since they require input from another source. Most of the actual cross-mod loops have been removed already, although with some of the new mods, it may again be possible.
This method and most, are actually complex production chains, since they require input from another source. Most of the actual cross-mod loops have been removed already, although with some of the new mods, it may again be possible.