Get Tons of Unlimited EU!
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There really have only been a couple true energy loops that I am aware of. The efficient ones have been nerfed so they no longer work. The first I know of was the lava in railcraft boiler, powering magma crucibles using cobblestone. The resultant lava was fed back into the boiler to power it. The efficiency of the boiler running on lava was cut in half. While it will burn and power a boiler, this was never intended, and was made so inefficient to be impractical. The second loop is the boiler running off scrap produced by cobble-gens. This was killed in two ways. First, I believe scrap is no longer a valid fuel source for boilers, and GT has disabled the production of scrap from cobble and any byproducts. The third was using the electrolyser with water cells, then restoring the energy back into an MFSU using (whatever the machine is called, I can't remember). While this was energy positive, it was so inefficient as to be impractical. I believe it only generated a couple thousand eu, which really wasn't worth building. I also believe this has been fixed so it is no longer possible.
Looks like Cinnabar might be more effective. Two dust gives one mercury and there's little else to do with it. One stack produces a bit over a million energy worth of batteries. That's half a stack of the other resources. I'll do the math for it in the morning.
If you're playing with GT, a million EU is a relatively trivial amount of energy. Consider that UU is 16 million EU and most of his machines require at least 128 EU/t. To take full advantage of the overclocking system, having at least 128 EU/t for your other machines is suggested as well.
Consider that 1 000 000 EU / 128 EU/t ~= 10 000t = 500s. If we consider that I approximated 128 to 100 and that this time value is inversely related to the time-value per tick consumption of EU by the machine, we can safely say that you might get 6-7 minutes worth of energy out of this.
Though I am not discrediting your discovery here, I just want to make clear the scale to which GT tends to demand from the user. One million EU is a trivial amount.
Consider that 1 000 000 EU / 128 EU/t ~= 10 000t = 500s. If we consider that I approximated 128 to 100 and that this time value is inversely related to the time-value per tick consumption of EU by the machine, we can safely say that you might get 6-7 minutes worth of energy out of this.
Though I am not discrediting your discovery here, I just want to make clear the scale to which GT tends to demand from the user. One million EU is a trivial amount.
Just to add a bit more, if you are a new user. The focus of your EU production should be more on the rate, rather than the amount. (i.e. EU/t rather than simply EU). If your generation system cannot scale up to the EU/t consumption of your machines, no matter how much EU you can get from any strategy you have, if you cannot meet the EU/t rating of the machine, all that EU is useless. This is especially the case for GT machines, which will continue to consume EU while producing nothing at all.
The focus of your strategy should be on sustainability. Like I said above, energy that may only last 6-7 minutes is fairly useless compared to the grand scale of time in FTB. Especially for those whom play SMP and have their servers running 24/7.
If you can find a way to automate this and design it in such a way that you can scale it to meet future energy demands, feel free to share that with us as well. That is what most of us are interested in. That is what we'd give most kudos points for, given the creative strategy you have uncovered here.
What I mean by the above is that it should be able to grow as your energy needs grow. It should also be automated, because time is valuable and spending it moving around the materials required to generate EU isn't a good use of it.
The focus of your strategy should be on sustainability. Like I said above, energy that may only last 6-7 minutes is fairly useless compared to the grand scale of time in FTB. Especially for those whom play SMP and have their servers running 24/7.
If you can find a way to automate this and design it in such a way that you can scale it to meet future energy demands, feel free to share that with us as well. That is what most of us are interested in. That is what we'd give most kudos points for, given the creative strategy you have uncovered here.
What I mean by the above is that it should be able to grow as your energy needs grow. It should also be automated, because time is valuable and spending it moving around the materials required to generate EU isn't a good use of it.
[spoilers]16x Rubber Wood (25K into Centrifuge) 45K from Methane. 8 Sticky Resin, 6 plantballs. 4 Carbon (Combine with 4 Hydrogen cells in Chemical Reactor for 5 methane cells.
4x Sticky Resin (6,500 into Centrifuge) 14 Rubber, 1 Plantball, 1 Compressed Plants
10x Redstone (110K into Centrifuge) 3 Mercury Cells, 1 Silicon Cell, 1 Chrome Dust, 1 Pyrite Dust
2x Cinnabar (12,800 into Electrolyzer) 1 Mercury Cells, 1 Sulfur
1x Copper Ingot (200 into Wiremill) 3 Copper Wire.[/spoilers]
The cost is a lot higher to make redstone into three mercury cells than it is to process six cinnabar into three of them, but you also get the difficult to acquire chrome. Plus the methane from the Rubber Wood pays for the cost of centrifuging the wood and the rubber. Turn the Carbon cells into Methane and it'll also pay for either the Redstone or Cinnabar, with extra. The cost of milling the Copper ingots is negligible.
That's about two million power out of it if you also process the carbon into Methane with Hydrogen.
4x Sticky Resin (6,500 into Centrifuge) 14 Rubber, 1 Plantball, 1 Compressed Plants
10x Redstone (110K into Centrifuge) 3 Mercury Cells, 1 Silicon Cell, 1 Chrome Dust, 1 Pyrite Dust
2x Cinnabar (12,800 into Electrolyzer) 1 Mercury Cells, 1 Sulfur
1x Copper Ingot (200 into Wiremill) 3 Copper Wire.[/spoilers]
The cost is a lot higher to make redstone into three mercury cells than it is to process six cinnabar into three of them, but you also get the difficult to acquire chrome. Plus the methane from the Rubber Wood pays for the cost of centrifuging the wood and the rubber. Turn the Carbon cells into Methane and it'll also pay for either the Redstone or Cinnabar, with extra. The cost of milling the Copper ingots is negligible.
That's about two million power out of it if you also process the carbon into Methane with Hydrogen.