FTB Infinity: Steam Creation from RF possible?

[Daniel_USA]

I appreciate that you all are trying to help but if you all would take the time to read the start of the post you would know exactly what mod pack I am using and what I am trying to build and the reasons for it.

And the answer is YES. There is a way. MFR Steam Boiler. It doesn't seem asinine at all because you simply think I'm going to slap a solar panel down and convert it to steam to use because I think it is a better option.

When in fact it is not about creating power to consume at all but about making a fully functioning design. (A Solar Power Plant without using solid of liquid fuel but pure solar energy).

 

[Azzanine]

Uhh wait what? you are creating a solar powerplant but it's not for the purpose of creating power?!

 

[GamerwithnoGame]

I appreciate that you all are trying to help but if you all would take the time to read the start of the post you would know exactly what mod pack I am using and what I am trying to build and the reasons for it.

And the answer is YES. There is a way. MFR Steam Boiler. It doesn't seem asinine at all because you simply think I'm going to slap a solar panel down and convert it to steam to use because I think it is a better option.

When in fact it is not about creating power to consume at all but about making a fully functioning design. (A Solar Power Plant without using solid of liquid fuel but pure solar energy).

No.

Your OP is actually pretty damn vague on the reasons as to why - the what, yes that's clear.

And unless you are using a more up to date version of MFR than I'm aware of (entirely possibly), it doesn't have a steam boiler - only a steam turbine.

Now, that's with the caveat that I may be out of date...

EDIT: I am wrong, there is a steam boiler. But here's the kicker, apparently:

It burns items.

 

[rouge_bare]

I appreciate that you all are trying to help but if you all would take the time to read the start of the post you would know exactly what mod pack I am using and what I am trying to build and the reasons for it.

And the answer is YES. There is a way. MFR Steam Boiler. It doesn't seem asinine at all because you simply think I'm going to slap a solar panel down and convert it to steam to use because I think it is a better option.

When in fact it is not about creating power to consume at all but about making a fully functioning design. (A Solar Power Plant without using solid of liquid fuel but pure solar energy).

I'm sorry to break it to you, but that does not burn RF, only solid fuel, making it a single block alterantive to the Solid Fueled Railcraft one.

So the answer (excluding any RF > some kind of fuel > steam sheinangians) is a big fat NO.

Edit: additonally where this is a thing (Power > something > Power) mod devs generally make it so that there is not a postive feedback loop. In short you waste power doing it.

 

[rhn]

I guess what he is very vaguely and convoluted trying to tell us, is that he wishes to build something resembling a "Solar thermal plant"(?):

Where the sun is not transformed into power in the panels, but instead focused into salt crystals which evaporates water to steam. And again believe he does not as much care about how the mods really work, but really just want to create steam from solar panels so he can run a turbine to mimic how it works in reality?

If I have interpreted this correctly then I personally think I might approach it all a bit differently. Mainly because a "Solar thermal plant" does not use solar panels at all. It uses mirrors that either focus the sun onto a central tower or a trough filled with salt crystals. And a liquid is then pumped through these salt crystals and into a heat exchanger to create steam for the turbine.
Now if I were to ever build a replica of this I would simply stick a BigReactor inside either the central tower or the heat exchanger and let it mimic the steam creation process. And then I would just build a ton of cosmetic mirrors out of microblocks/carpenter's blocks. This much better replicates the workings of a real solar thermal plant. It keeps "hot" during the night(this also fixes the problem with the BR turbine RPM dropping during the night). It produces the steam in a large block that you can make look almost the way you want it with different internal materials and as many pipes(real or cosmetic) coming in and out as you want. And I suppose you could just RP the yellorium fuel as some kind of "salt replacement".

I am actually using a BigReactor reactor in my own world as a stand-in for a nuclear heat exchanger for my IC2 nuclear reactors. It makes sense to have this block next to the reactors that outputs steam to turbines.

 

[GamerwithnoGame]

I guess what he is very vaguely and convoluted trying to tell us, is that he wishes to build something resembling a "Solar thermal plant"(?):

Where the sun is not transformed into power in the panels, but instead focused into salt crystals which evaporates water to steam. And again believe he does not as much care about how the mods really work, but really just want to create steam from solar panels so he can run a turbine to mimic how it works in reality?

If I have interpreted this correctly then I personally think I might approach it all a bit differently. Mainly because a "Solar thermal plant" does not use solar panels at all. It uses mirrors that either focus the sun onto a central tower or a trough filled with salt crystals. And a liquid is then pumped through these salt crystals and into a heat exchanger to create steam for the turbine.
Now if I were to ever build a replica of this I would simply stick a BigReactor inside either the central tower or the heat exchanger and let it mimic the steam creation process. And then I would just build a ton of cosmetic mirrors out of microblocks/carpenter's blocks. This much better replicates the workings of a real solar thermal plant. And I suppose you could just RP the yellorium fuel as some kind of "salt replacement".

Ooh I like that! Nice one

 

[rouge_bare]

In short, essentially the factorization method (it's really uncanny how similar it looks to the Factorization solar Steam tower. Since there is no Factorization on Infinity, there is no direct way of doing it. rhn's proposed solution is probibly the closest you'll get to that sort of thing on Infinty. If not, care to elaborate clearly what you are trying to do, Ingore the solution you've already suggested yourself (the illogical RF > Steam > RF route.) and just say what you are trying. As it is IMPOSSIBLE to directly convert RF to Steam.

 

[Daniel_USA]

I guess what he is very vaguely and convoluted trying to tell us, is that he wishes to build something resembling a "Solar thermal plant"(?):

Where the sun is not transformed into power in the panels, but instead focused into salt crystals which evaporates water to steam. And again believe he does not as much care about how the mods really work, but really just want to create steam from solar panels so he can run a turbine to mimic how it works in reality?

If I have interpreted this correctly then I personally think I might approach it all a bit differently. Mainly because a "Solar thermal plant" does not use solar panels at all. It uses mirrors that either focus the sun onto a central tower or a trough filled with salt crystals. And a liquid is then pumped through these salt crystals and into a heat exchanger to create steam for the turbine.
Now if I were to ever build a replica of this I would simply stick a BigReactor inside either the central tower or the heat exchanger and let it mimic the steam creation process. And then I would just build a ton of cosmetic mirrors out of microblocks/carpenter's blocks. This much better replicates the workings of a real solar thermal plant. It keeps "hot" during the night(this also fixes the problem with the BR turbine RPM dropping during the night). It produces the steam in a large block that you can make look almost the way you want it with different internal materials and as many pipes(real or cosmetic) coming in and out as you want. And I suppose you could just RP the yellorium fuel as some kind of "salt replacement".

I am actually using a BigReactor reactor in my own world as a stand-in for a nuclear heat exchanger for my IC2 nuclear reactors. It makes sense to have this block next to the reactors that outputs steam to turbines.

You my friend deserve some kind of reward. +1 points forever to you.

 

[Daniel_USA]

In that picture I plan to substitute the mirrors for actual Solar Panels from the mod and the place where Salt Crystals; or Water in my case gets boiled; with Open Blocks tanks full of water. Of course it will be cosmetic as no water will actually get boiled at the top and the real energy will come from Solar Panels. But the issue arises that I want to create Steam as well, which would power a Big Reactor Turbine.

So for me I am trying to get away from Nuclear and Thermal Energy and create a viable "Green Energy" plant.
I live in a Desert with an Ocean adjacent to the biome so I will be roleplaying that the water gets pumped in from the Ocean and boiled in the Solar Power Plant.

Which would then power a turbine which would simulate a functional Solar Power Plant from a cosmetic point of view. But if I could eliminate coal, nuclear, and thermal energy and create a "Pure Solar Plant" that actually works in a similar method to an actual Solar Plant than that would be ideal.

Again, I am sorry for any misinterpretations since I know it has caused serious confusion as to why I would try to do this intentionally.

 

[rhn]

In that picture I plan to substitute the mirrors for actual Solar Panels from the mod and the place where Salt Crystals; or Water in my case gets boiled; with Open Blocks tanks full of water. Of course it will be cosmetic as no water will actually get boiled at the top and the real energy will come from Solar Panels. But the issue arises that I want to create Steam as well, which would power a Big Reactor Turbine.

So for me I am trying to get away from Nuclear and Thermal Energy and create a viable "Green Energy" plant.
I live in a Desert with an Ocean adjacent to the biome so I will be roleplaying that the water gets pumped in from the Ocean and boiled in the Solar Power Plant.

Which would then power a turbine which would simulate a functional Solar Power Plant from a cosmetic point of view. But if I could eliminate coal, nuclear, and thermal energy and create a "Pure Solar Plant" that actually works in a similar method to an actual Solar Plant than that would be ideal.

Again, I am sorry for any misinterpretations since I know it has caused serious confusion as to why I would try to do this intentionally.

Well my only advice would be to replace those cosmetic water tanks with a Big Reactor. If you use Cryotheum or Diamond blocks it would be a decent stand-in for the molten crystals that are being used in RL solar thermal plants. And you actually need to supply the reactor with water(even if you reuse water which is recommended for server/PC reasons, you still need to keep it topped up).
You can still collect energy with solar panels, perhaps you would want to make IC2 solar panels so you got that mods power need covered as well?

 

[rouge_bare]

The only method I am aware of to make steam from solar power belongs to factorization. As far as steam generation in infinity goes, I think there are 3 options. The mfr steam boiler, the railcraft steam boilers, or an actively cooled big reactor. Steam dynamos and hobbyist steam engines both make steam, but you can't extract it. It really is pick your poison, so to speak.

Personally, I feel the best option would be a hidden big reactor. But a steam boiler fuelled with charcoal or maybe peat would be the greenest option.

Edit: it's worth noting that a steam turbine needs a steady supply of steam to run at ideal speeds. Assuming a maxed out turbine, you will need 3 max size high pressure railcraft boilers. They will produce a small excess too which is probably a good idea to use somehow or I think it could slow down the boilers.

 

[Daniel_USA]

I think I will just make the Solar Power Plant and then make a turbine with a big reactor somewhere else. Thanks for the help. I just want to built it now.