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Environmental Tech - Blocks Required List

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  1. Pjc21

    Pjc21 Member

    Here is list of the required blocks needed for each tier of the Void Ore Miner, Void Resource Miner & Void Botanic Miner for Environmental Tech for 1.12.2

    Tier 1
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 1
    • 24 x Structure Frame (Tier 1 or above)
    • 20 x Structure Panel
    • 2 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
    Tier 2
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 2
    • 4 x Null Modifier
    • 32 x Structure Frame (Tier 2 or above)
    • 16 x Structure Panel
    • 3 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
    Tier 3
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 3
    • 8 x Null Modifier
    • 56 x Structure Frame (Tier 3 or above)
    • 52 x Structure Panel
    • 4 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
    Tier 4
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 4
    • 12 x Null Modifier
    • 56 x Structure Frame (Tier 4 or above)
    • 56 x Structure Panel
    • 5 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
    Tier 5
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 5
    • 16 x Null Modifier
    • 72 x Structure Frame (Tier 5 or above)
    • 36 x Structure Panel
    • 6 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
    Tier 6
    • 1 x Void Ore Miner / Void Resource Miner / Void Botanic Miner - Controller - Tier 6
    • 20 x Null Modifier
    • 92 x Structure Frame (Tier 6 or above)
    • 56 x Structure Panel
    • 6 x Laser Core
    • 1 x Laser Lens
     
  2. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    (NOTE: this is for Environmental Tech for 1.12.2, version 2.0.6a)

    Just to add to the very helpful info @Pjc21 has provided:

    The Structure Frame blocks currently work quite differently to how they did previously. There are now a series of minerals which are required to create the 6 tiers of blocks. These currently do not have ores listed, meaning that they are only obtainable from the Void Ore Miner, with the exception of the Tier 1 mineral Litherite.

    The tiers are:

    Tier 1: Litherite
    Tier 2: Erodium
    Tier 3: Kyronite
    Tier 4: Pladium
    Tier 5: Ionite
    Tier 6: Aethium

    Litherite is craftable using a diamond, 4 flint, 2 cactus green/green dye and 2 lime green dye (each recipe makes 4). For each of the tiers after 1, each structure block requires 1 of the previous tier, 2 of the relevant mineral, and 2 other items (ranging from iron all the way up to nether stars at the high level); the first tier requires a block called an "interconnect", made from black concrete and connectors (made from iron and redstone).
     
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  3. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    (NOTE: this is for Environmental Tech for 1.12.2, version 2.0.6a)

    Apologies for the double post, but it seemed appropriate for this to have its own:

    Number Crunching:

    I've been doing some calculations on the cost of the structure blocks, and I have some values below. I haven't included the cost of the structure panels, the black concrete, any modifiers or the actual block itself - just the Structure Frame resource values for the various Tiers. I will show the values for resources including minerals, and an added diamond cost which assumes you make all Litherite from scratch (not recommended!). Thus:

    Tier 1
    24 Structure Frames:
    120 Redstone
    120 Iron
    24 Lapis
    48 Litherite

    Litherite diamond cost:
    12 diamonds

    This is an unavoidable cost because you require litherite for the Void Ore Miner, so you will always need at least 12 diamonds to start with (and this doesn't count the cost of the litherite used to make the Void Ore Miner, so it is more than 12 in point of fact).

    Tier 2

    32 Structure Frames:
    160 Redstone
    160 Iron
    64 Lapis
    64 Litherite
    32 Gold
    64 Erodium

    Litherite diamond cost:
    16 diamonds

    Tier 3
    56 Structure Frames:
    280 Redstone
    280 Iron
    112 Lapis
    112 Litherite
    56 Gold
    112 Erodium
    56 Diamond
    56 Nether Quartz
    112 Kyronite

    Litherite diamond cost:

    28 diamonds

    Tier 4
    56 Structure Frames:
    280 Redstone
    280 Iron
    112 Lapis
    112 Litherite
    56 Gold
    112 Erodium
    56 Diamond
    112 Nether Quartz
    112 Kyronite
    56 Emerald
    112 Pladium

    Litherite diamond cost:

    28 diamonds

    Tier 5

    72 Structure Frames

    360 Redstone
    360 Iron
    144 Lapis
    144 Litherite
    72 Gold
    144 Erodium
    72 Diamond
    144 Nether Quartz
    144 Kyronite
    72 Emerald
    144 Pladium
    72 Prismarine
    72 Nether Star
    144 Ionite

    Litherite diamond cost:
    36 diamonds

    Tier 6
    92 Structure Frames:
    480 Redstone
    480 Iron
    192 Lapis
    192 Litherite
    96 Gold
    192 Erodium
    96 Diamond
    192 Nether Quartz
    192 Kyronite
    96 Emerald
    192 Pladium
    96 Prismarine
    288 Nether Star
    192 Ionite
    192 Aethium

    Litherite diamond cost:

    48 diamonds

    EDIT: Redstone values corrected. Also, as a little addendum to this, you'll need either ink sacs or some sort of black dye for the black concrete needed to make the interconnects - there is 1 interconnect per Tier 1 structure frame block, so the ink sac cost would be the number of frame blocks divided by 8 (as the recipe makes 8 black concrete powder with 1 ink sac); the sand cost would be 1/2 the number of frame blocks (4 sand for 8 concrete powder) and the same for gravel.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
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  4. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    (NOTE: this is for Environmental Tech for 1.12.2, version 2.0.6a)

    Hello again, hope I'm not treading on any toes @Pjc21; let me know and I'll pipe down! :) I did a bit more looking into the recipes and resources for the Void Ore Miner Controller (VOMC, for brevity) and some other blocks, my results are below. As mentioned, with regards to the void ore miner you require at least the first one to get the minerals required for any of the higher tiers, so you can take that cost as a given. I'll section it off into Spoilers for the sake of length.

    Recipes

    Void Ore Miner Controller

    Tier 1
    4 blocks litherite (36 litherite)
    1 block diamond
    2 interconnect (Interconnect: 4 iron, 5 redstone, 1 black concrete)
    1 laser lens (clear lens: 7 glass; coloured: clear + dye)
    1 diode (7 glass, 1 iron, 1 redstone)

    Tier 2
    6 blocks erodium (54 erodium)
    1 block diamond
    1 laser lens
    VOMC T1

    Tier 3 - onwards
    6 blocks Kyronite/Pladium/Ionite/Aethium
    1 block diamond
    1 laser lens
    VOMC (of previous tier)

    This manner of pattern following is present not only for the VOMCs, but for the other miners, as detailed below:

    Void Resource Miner Controller

    The tiers follow the exact same pattern, but with an obsidian block instead of a diamond block.

    Void Botanic Miner Controller

    Again, the tiers follow the same pattern, but with a chorus flower rather than a diamond block, meaning you'll need to have gone to the End.

    I also did some research into the Solar Array Controller (SAC) block recipes, and solar cell recipes as well; my results are below:

    Solar Array Controller

    Tier 1
    4 blocks litherite
    4 blocks lapis
    1 solar cell (any tier)

    Tier 2
    4 blocks erodium
    4 erodium solar cell
    SAC T1

    The remaining recipes for these follow the same pattern, whereby they require the SAC of the previous tier, 4 blocks of the tier mineral, and 4 of that tier's solar cell. Recipes for those are below:

    Litherite solar cell

    3 litherite
    3 photovoltaic cell (4 lapis, 1 quartz)
    2 redstone
    1 interconnect

    Erodium solar cell
    3 erodium
    2 photovoltaic cell
    1 litherite solar cell

    The remaining recipes for these again follow the pattern, whereby they require 3 of that tier's mineral, 2 photovoltaic cells, and one a solar cell of the previous tier.

    Resources

    Void Ore Miner Controllers
    Tier 1
    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    14 Glass
    9 Diamond
    36 Litherite

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    As mentioned in my previous post, the diamond cost for making the litherite (in this case, 4 blocks worth) is the absolute minimum additional cost you MUST pay, because you cannot get any more litherite, or any of the other minerals for later tiers, without at least building the Tier 1 void ore miner. All further costs listed are TOTAL cost from scratch, which is why the litherite diamond cost remains at the bottom.

    Tier 2
    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    21 Glass
    18 Diamond
    36 Litherite
    54 Erodium

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    Tier 3
    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    21 Glass
    27 Diamond
    36 Litherite
    54 Erodium
    54 Kyronite

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    Tier 4

    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    21 Glass
    36 Diamond
    36 Litherite
    54 Erodium
    54 Kyronite
    54 Pladium

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    Tier 5
    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    21 Glass
    45 Diamond
    36 Litherite
    54 Erodium
    54 Kyronite
    54 Pladium
    54 Ionite

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    Tier 6
    11 Redstone
    9 Iron
    21 Glass
    54 Diamond
    36 Litherite
    54 Erodium
    54 Kyronite
    54 Pladium
    54 Ionite
    54 Aethium

    Litherite diamond cost:
    9 diamonds

    Void Resource Miner Controller

    Costs are the same as for the ore miner controller, but the diamond cost is replaced by 1/9th the cost in obsidian (so T6, 54 diamonds would be 6 obsidian blocks); I will not include litherite diamond cost as at this point I would assume that at least a T1 VOMC has been set up and is obtaining litherite.

    Void Botanic Miner Controller

    Costs are the same as for the ore miner controller, but the diamond cost is replaced by 1/9th the cost in chorus flowers, and again no litherite diamond cost.

    I will try and update this thread with solar array block requirements, solar array controller costs and solar cell costs later; I would also like to note something interesting I found: it seems that all arrays can use any tier of solar cell, as long as the Solar Array Controller and Structure Frame blocks are of the correct tier. Whether this makes a difference to RF generation, whether you can mix and match cells in the same array and so on, I do not know - further research required!

    To be continued...
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
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  5. Pjc21

    Pjc21 Member

    @GamerwithnoGame, not at all (no toes trodden on :)). The more info the better I say, and these are some great posts with loads of info - so thank you & keep it up :D.
     
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  6. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    Ah awesome, cheers! :) In that case:

    Solar Array block requirements

    (caveat: as mentioned in an earlier post, these seem to require only the base tier of solar cell, and I don't know what difference higher tier cells make. Also, the structure frames are listed as needing that tier or above, so again I need to do further research there)

    Tier 1
    4 null modifier
    16 structure frame block (any tier)
    9 solar cell (any type)

    Tier 2
    4 null modifier
    24 structure frame block (T2 or above)
    25 solar cell (any type)

    Tier 3
    8 null modifier
    32 structure frame block (T3 or above)
    49 solar cell (any type)

    Tier 4
    8 null modifier
    40 structure frame block (T4 or above)
    81 solar cell (any type)

    Tier 5
    12 null modifier
    48 structure frame block (T5 or above)
    121 solar cell (any type)

    Tier 6
    12 null modifier
    56 structure frame block (T6)
    169 solar cell (any type)

    Null Modifier: 4 glass, 4 iron, 1 interconnect
    Interconnect: 4 iron, 5 redstone, 1 black concrete

    Please note that some of the iron and redstone cost in my post about structure frame blocks is due to the interconnects; wasn't sure if that was clear.

    Solar Cell resource costs

    I will be quoting total costs per cell, from scratch, for these.
    Litherite solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    12 lapis
    3 Nether quartz
    3 litherite

    Erodium solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    20 lapis
    5 Nether quartz
    3 litherite
    3 erodium

    Kyronite solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    28 lapis
    7 Nether quartz
    3 litherite
    3 erodium

    3 kyronite

    Pladium solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    36 lapis
    9 Nether quartz
    3 litherite
    3 erodium

    3 kyronite
    3 pladium

    Ionite solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    44 lapis
    11 Nether quartz
    3 litherite
    3 erodium

    3 kyronite
    3 pladium
    3 ionite

    Aethium solar cell
    7 redstone
    4 iron
    52 lapis
    13 Nether quartz
    3 litherite
    3 erodium

    3 kyronite
    3 pladium
    3 ionite
    3 aethium

    Solar Array Controller resource costs

    Array Controller costs here are assuming the cell used to craft the Tier 1 SAC was a Tier 1 cell itself.
    Tier 1
    7 Redstone
    4 Iron
    48 Lapis
    39 Litherite
    3 Nether Quartz

    Tier 2
    29 Redstone
    20 Iron
    128 Lapis
    51 Litherite
    48 Erodium
    23 Nether Quartz

    Tier 3
    29 Redstone
    20 Iron
    160 Lapis
    51 Litherite
    48 Erodium
    31 Nether Quartz
    48 Kyronite

    Tier 4
    29 Redstone
    20 Iron
    192 Lapis
    51 Litherite
    48 Erodium
    39 Nether Quartz
    48 Kyronite
    48 Pladium

    Tier 5
    29 Redstone
    20 Iron
    224 Lapis
    51 Litherite
    48 Erodium
    47 Nether Quartz
    48 Kyronite
    48 Pladium
    48 Ionite

    Tier 6
    29 Redstone
    20 Iron
    256 Lapis
    51 Litherite
    48 Erodium
    55 Nether Quartz
    48 Kyronite
    48 Pladium
    48 Ionite
    48 Aethium

    EDIT: corrected nether quartz in T1 Solar Array Controller (was missing)

     
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  7. Brian Cherrick

    Brian Cherrick Well-Known Member

    Damn that resource cost for t5 and t6 ore miner lol
     
  8. MikW

    MikW Active Member

    Can you also list the RF/t for the void miner and the RF generated by the solar array?
     
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  9. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    Unfortunately I was working out these figures on a small custom instance on my work computer (naughty, I know) so I’ll need to do one at home - needless to say, that won’t be today ;)

    But investigating RF production in the solar array is right up the top of my to-do list; void miner might be a bit more complicated but I’ll see what I can do. I’d also like to investigate total resource costs for the solar arrays of various tiers, but again my resources (in this case the spreadsheet I was using to help me calculate costs) are also on my work computer.

    I won’t be rushing to do it, so if anyone else wants to take the baton, feel free; I’d be interested in the answer too!
     
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  10. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    So, if I've set the spreadsheet up correctly, and done my maths right, the total resource costs (minus glass and black concrete) for the different tiers of solar array should be as follows. Caveat: this assumes that the cells used in the array itself are only Tier 1, and that the structure blocks used are of the tier of the array and not any higher.

    Tier 1
    1 × T1 solar array controller
    16 × T1 structure frames
    9 × litherite solar cells
    4 × null modifiers


    154 Redstone
    152 Iron
    172 Lapis
    98 Litherite
    30 Nether Quartz

    Tier 2
    1 × T2 solar array controller
    24 × T2 structure frames
    25 × litherite solar cells
    4 × null modifiers

    296 Redstone
    272 Iron
    476 Lapis
    174 Litherite
    24 Gold
    96 Erodium
    98 Nether Quartz

    Tier 3
    1 × T3 solar array controller
    32 × T3 structure frames
    49 × litherite solar cells
    8 × null modifiers


    476 Redstone
    440 Iron
    812 Lapis
    262 Litherite
    32 Gold
    112 Erodium
    32 Diamond
    210 Nether Quartz
    112 Kyronite

    Tier 4
    1 × T4 solar array controller
    40 × T4 structure frames
    81 × litherite solar cells
    8 × null modifiers


    676 Redstone
    608 Iron
    1244 Lapis
    374 Litherite
    40 Gold
    128 Erodium
    40 Diamond
    362 Nether Quartz
    128 Kyronite
    40 Emerald
    128 Pladium

    Tier 5
    1 × T5 solar array controller
    48 × T5 structure frames
    121 × litherite solar cells
    12 × null modifiers

    936 Redstone
    840 Iron
    1772 Lapis
    510 Litherite
    48 Gold
    144 Erodium
    48 Diamond
    506 Nether Quartz
    144 Kyronite
    48 Emerald
    144 Pladium
    48 Prismarine
    48 Nether Star
    144 Ionite

    Tier 6
    1 × T6 solar array controller
    56 × T6 structure frames
    169 × litherite solar cells
    12 × null modifiers


    1216 Redstone
    1072 Iron
    2396 Lapis
    670 Litherite
    56 Gold
    160 Erodium
    56 Diamond
    674 Nether Quartz
    160 Kyronite
    56 Emerald
    160 Pladium
    56 Prismarine
    168 Nether Star
    160 Ionite
    160 Aethium
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2018
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  11. Brian Cherrick

    Brian Cherrick Well-Known Member

    Couldn't in reality some of these costs be much lower? Assuming that you are recycling some components and upgrading you T1 to a T2, and not making a T2 independently of that T1?
     
  12. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    The cost of each is from scratch - sorry, I mentioned that in previous posts but I forgot to mention it here. So if you wanted to know the cost to upgrade from 5 to 6, you’d subtract those figures.
     
  13. Nashannata

    Nashannata Active Member

    Hey Guys.
    Is it Possible to use the Solar Power for Other Mod's like Draconic or IC2 or else?
    I Play Revelations Modpack.
    This Mod is kinda new for me and i farm about 3 Days just for the T1 Mats ...and still not finished... :D I like it
     
  14. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    Ok so: the Environmental Tech mod uses an energy system compatible with something called Forge Energy. That works with Redstone Flux (RF) used by Thermal Expansion; Crystal Flux (CF) used by Actually Additions; Immersive Flux (IF) used by Immersive Engineering; and Tesla, used by a few different mods. All of these are completely compatible, and translate 1:1 - effectively they are the same. Draconic Evolution also uses RF, as do many other mods.

    IndustrialCraft has its own energy units (EU) which are not compatible, though some mods provide conversion capabilities, also if Forestry still has the Electrical Engine, that converts EU to RF if memory serves.
     
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  15. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    Just a quick update on this thread; I may edit this post when I know more, or generate a new post, depending on how extensive it gets:

    (NOTE: this is for Environmental Tech for 1.12.2, version 2.0.6b)

    I did some more investigation, and sure enough, in a solar array the individual solar cells can be swapped out for higher tier ones, with a concurrent increase in RF generation. I tested this quickly by swapping out single litherite (Tier 1) cells from a top tier solar array with tier 2 and tier 6 cells, then swapping more out, before finally replacing the whole set of cells manually. I started off with a tier 6 array filled with tier 1 cells, as that's what generates when you use the Assembler on the T6 Solar Array Controller in creative mode.

    To test this fully, I need more time than I had available to me last night, but as an idea of the difference, on replacing the T1 cells for T6 cells, the array went from about 330k RF/t to 1.7M RF/t. Obviously that's a huge resource cost too, but that's the sort of difference you get. I will do more research when I can, and update further.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2018
  16. Closet Gamer

    Closet Gamer Well-Known Member

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  17. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    As a caveat, I should say: this applies to 1.12 only - they changed the system, and the manual isn’t implemented so we stepped in to provide the info as best we can, until it’s done.
     
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  18. Daihok

    Daihok Active Member

    Was curious if anyone knows the dimensions needed for each tier? Also if anyone knows the preferred lens for each tier of crystals. It dont show the preferred in JEI its just blank.
     
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  19. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    I can help you here: if you’ve got the most recent version of Environmental Tech, you may need to regenerate the jsons - in the config folder, there should be a folder for the void ore miner that has 6 .json files, one for each of the tiers. Then next time you load up, new ones should be generated, and it should show the preferred lens as the crystal laser lens - made with a normal laser lens and 6 blocks of erodium.

    As for dimensions, I need to check those. I know the solar arrays go as odd numbers; so T1 is 5x5x2, T2 is 7x7x2, T3 is 9x9x2 etc.
     
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  20. Daihok

    Daihok Active Member

    Awesome! Wow means i have to use alot of erodium just so that i can get more erodium lol. I love though that they made it way harder in the 1.12.2 version. Was way to easy to upgrade in previous versions.
     
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