I have an electric engine near all my machines but I just made a multifarm some distance away from my house, how many blocks can I run gold conductive piping before it dissipates?
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I have an electric engine near all my machines but I just made a multifarm some distance away from my house, how many blocks can I run gold conductive piping before it dissipates?
Just to cut off this issue early, conductive pipes can explode so they are not the best thing to use. You should look into redstone conduit, which, I believe, can run for as long as you'd like at a 5% cost to your power for any length of run.
I will have to look into the redstone conduits but for now I only have the conductive golden pipes.
Anyone else know how long they can run?
Anyone else know how long they can run?
Not sure, never use them. They've been so broken in the last few updates that I beeline for conduits without even considering them an option.
But one guy said in the last thread we had this discussion that they lose a lot of power nowadays. If they don't start building up power in the first pipe instead that is. In which case they lose all of the power, and the engine as well after some time.
But one guy said in the last thread we had this discussion that they lose a lot of power nowadays. If they don't start building up power in the first pipe instead that is. In which case they lose all of the power, and the engine as well after some time.
I will have to look into the redstone conduits but for now I only have the conductive golden pipes.
Anyone else know how long they can run?
A quick google search got me to the buildcraft wiki, which had details saying that they lose around 60% over one hundred blocks.
Neah, one lead, one pulverized obsidian, 4 electrum and 16 redstone make 8 conduits. Not the easiest thing ever to craft though. You need an induction smelter, magma cruicible and liquid transposer to make 'em.Are they hard to craft? And are they material whores?
Still, worth it.
With that much distance an energy tesseract may actually be more effeciant, 25% energy loss is nothing compared to the materials you would save in make 150 conduits. Take the extra mats you save and build more power production.
I have tons of power production in my house but I don't know know how to get power to my multifarm
If you have power to spare tesseract is a win solution, since it doesn't have a distance limit and can even work cross dimensionally.
The energy tesseract will never be more efficient in regards to power lost in transfer. Besides that, the only costs are redstone, gold, silver, obsidian, and lead as well as the energy costs to smelt the hardened glass, melt the redstone, and transpose the redstone into the frame. You aren't going to make more energy with those materials.With that much distance an energy tesseract may actually be more effeciant, 25% energy loss is nothing compared to the materials you would save in make 150 conduits. Take the extra mats you save and build more power production.
I have tons of power production in my house but I don't know know how to get power to my multifarm
You should look into building a redstone energy cell. It can store 600,000mj, can output that in amounts between 0mj to 100mj a tick, and can be picked up as an item by a crescent hammer turtle.
The optimal solution is having a turtle pick up uncharged redstone energy cells via a ender chest, place them down, wait for them to be charged (a gate to detect the energy status of the cell, turtle checks for redstone signal), then putting them in a chest with only full cells. The remote turtle grabs from the full chest when the cell there is empty.
I've got this system set up and working for my quarry, currently, as this was before tesseracts, but also because 25% energy loss is pretty massive, and if you can get around it, do as much.
If you have power to spare tesseract is a win solution, since it doesn't have a distance limit and can even work cross dimensionally.
So can the above, and there is no 25% energy loss. It is silly to pay that massive cost when you can avoid it.
Not everyone likes turtles, wants turtles or can use turtles. Also, if you have enough energy generation, but not many materials. A tesseract is still more viable, 25% energy or loads of mats for a massive redstone conduits hook-up. well energy is cheap if you've already got a boiler setup, materials take time to mine.
My suggestion was based on using 150 conduits to hook up a farm, and a tesseract is way more viable since the OP said they had loads of power to spare. Plus, it's simpler and faster than learning to program a turtle.
My suggestion was based on using 150 conduits to hook up a farm, and a tesseract is way more viable since the OP said they had loads of power to spare. Plus, it's simpler and faster than learning to program a turtle.
Since you are using electrical engines just run IC2 power lines out to the farm and put the engine at/closer to the farm.I have tons of power production in my house but I don't know know how to get power to my multifarm
You can run glass fibre cable long distances with low/no loss (loses 1 EU every 40 blocks). It has no loss up to 39 blocks.
You could run insulated copper cabbles lossless over a distance using 4 copper cables (loses 1 EU every 5 blocks) cables and 1 LV transformer -- run them in a series over the distance you need. You can do the same with glass fibre, but put only need transformers every 40th block . You could do a lossless stretch of 79 blocks with one transformer in the middle.
Not everyone likes turtles, wants turtles or can use turtles.
Don't EVER say that!!!
No, but seriously now (actually, still seriously now), I can understand that some people are frightened of turtles because they believe that programming is hard. In reality, though, turtles are one of the easiest things to program as LUA is an extremely easy language. And if they need help, there are loads of resources.
Tesseracts are a solution to a problem that was already solved a few times over, but was too complicated for most people. They should be more expensive surely, but then a 25% hit is pretty painful.
Also, if you have enough energy generation, but not many materials. A tesseract is still more viable, 25% energy or loads of mats for a massive redstone conduits hook-up. well energy is cheap if you've already got a boiler setup, materials take time to mine.
The amount of materials to make 150 redstone conduit is likely easily obtained from full sized quarries in most biomes.
My suggestion was based on using 150 conduits to hook up a farm, and a tesseract is way more viable since the OP said they had loads of power to spare.
Indeed, but your suggestion requires a boost to power production to make up for the loss of power. It is also not the type of system that some people will want to use. Especially people that are worried about the energy costs of piping.
Plus, it's simpler and faster than learning to program a turtle.
I disagree, but that entire point is subjective, so it is irrelevant.
Don't see how that's subjective. I can build a pair of tesseracts faster than someone can learn LUA, program and trouble shoot a turtle to get it to work.
I'd argue the item tesseract is barely useful, but the energy tesseract is fairly good.
The liquid tesseract is the only one that's pretty much 100% better- it doesn't require energy to use, costs about the same as transposers + enderchests, and is faster and more compact as well.
Item tesseracts' functionality are already mostly beaten by enderchests- enderchests + filters (or the new emerald pipes) makes them an even better solution than the item tesseract. I'd say the only way they're more useful is in a situation where you don't want to bother with an autarchic gate (or if that, for whatever reason, is not fast enough and bottlenecks the input into the enderchest)
Energy tesseracts can be used to cross-dimensionally transport energy, and easily as well. Turtle teleporters, as far as I'm aware, cannot teleport them cross-dimension.
The liquid tesseract is the only one that's pretty much 100% better- it doesn't require energy to use, costs about the same as transposers + enderchests, and is faster and more compact as well.
Item tesseracts' functionality are already mostly beaten by enderchests- enderchests + filters (or the new emerald pipes) makes them an even better solution than the item tesseract. I'd say the only way they're more useful is in a situation where you don't want to bother with an autarchic gate (or if that, for whatever reason, is not fast enough and bottlenecks the input into the enderchest)
Energy tesseracts can be used to cross-dimensionally transport energy, and easily as well. Turtle teleporters, as far as I'm aware, cannot teleport them cross-dimension.
Dude, the item tesseract is a bloody godsend. Especially when coupled with my most favorite block ever - the router. Timers, transposers, autarchic gates and wooden pipes are on the blody TOP of my list of things I'd prefer to never use again. Oh and conductive pipes. Those things are the devil.I'd argue the item tesseract is barely useful, but the energy tesseract is fairly good.
The liquid tesseract is the only one that's pretty much 100% better- it doesn't require energy to use, costs about the same as transposers + enderchests, and is faster and more compact as well.
Item tesseracts' functionality are already mostly beaten by enderchests- enderchests + filters (or the new emerald pipes) makes them an even better solution than the item tesseract. I'd say the only way they're more useful is in a situation where you don't want to bother with an autarchic gate (or if that, for whatever reason, is not fast enough and bottlenecks the input into the enderchest)
Energy tesseracts can be used to cross-dimensionally transport energy, and easily as well. Turtle teleporters, as far as I'm aware, cannot teleport them cross-dimension.
Besides, enderchests are buggy, they lose items.
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Turtle teleporters, as far as I'm aware, cannot teleport them cross-dimension.
Well, unless it changed after Direwolf20 did his mod spotlight, it should be able to teleport to other dimensions.
The cost for that seemed to be quite high though.