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If you like. I just hope that either talking about it elsewhere or having people talk on my behalf is not counted against me.
You can also, if you wish, verify three things:
- I get a lot of trolls, so sharing an IP with me is hardly surprising given enough time and a 5000+ person network
- I am not stupid enough to jeopardize my entire account by alt-ing to troll people (I am surprised and glad their policy is not instant-permaban).
- I am one of the last people who would troll something
http://www.minecraftforum.net/appeals/1367
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But...having leaders people can argue with would cause complete bedlam! BEDLAM, I SAY!
In all seriousness, though, go and give your view if you are willing, because now that I have said "others have offered to back me up", it looks really bad if noone does.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/appeals/1367
http://www.minecraftforum.net/appeals/1367
In all seriousness, though, go and give your view if you are willing, because now that I have said "others have offered to back me up", it looks really bad if noone does.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/appeals/1367
Odd, link redirects to page with bold text saying Forbidden, and "You do not have access to perform that action."
OK, unfortunately noone else has the ability to post there. Which makes a sort of sense. I have linked them here instead.Odd, link redirects to page with bold text saying Forbidden, and "You do not have access to perform that action."
Someone else on my university's network used a MCF account to troll, and because it was on the same IP as me (being the same network), I got flagged as making an alt and banned from posting for 5 days.
That's ridiculous. Then anyone who uses a public network is open to such bans.
Theoretically, yes. Given this is the network of an entire university with about 60000 students enrolled, I find this to be completely unacceptable.
Also... Why ASSUME it was you? I can't imagine on a campus with 60k+ students that you are the ONLY one on mcf. I'd be interested to see if you were the only one to get such punishment.
Probably not. I obviously have no data on the percentage of students who were not in class and use the MCF, but I suspect there were at minimum 50, if not more.
This of all things may be what drives me away from the forum. Glitchy software was bad. Broken searches, broken quoting, et cetera was irritating. But getting banned at the drop of a hat because of an easily broken assumption (same IP = same person) is beyond the line.
I bet even some who were in class were on it. I know when I was in school there were times I was on this board DURING class. But either way. My deepest apologies for what is a dumb decision.
Because MCF's moderation team is a factory farm that handles a less polite/mature set than the one we handle here and they apparently err on the side of over-enforcement while going about the mountain of moderation work they have to handle. I think it's a dumb policy too (Especially for any forum that's >1 year old and >1k users) but I can understand how it got picked in the triage of moderation bandwidth concerns (something's gotta give, sometimes).
Depending on the level of access and technical capability of the moderator in this case, they may have zero context beyond "IP match", too. I habitually run iplocation whenever dealing with anything on the IP layer, but then again I also admin a site where we've historically had a heavy academic presence (faculty and students), so I'm prepared on that.
But to pick out one person who used that particular service is beyond asinine. I understand dealing with a less mature crowd. But as it stands I see it as being a case of example setting. Granted I do not know if reika was the only one from this up to receive such a ban.
There's a whole quasi-political screed on the nature of bureaucracies, bureaucrats, and the enshrinement of "policies and procedures" I would launch into, but I don't think I want to suggest the implementation of a Bureaucrat NPC into RotaryCraft, so I'll leave it at that here.
A university does not send all connections on their network out through one IP. It might seem that way, but it does not. They have a subnet which is shared across those users.
That being said, this is why appeals exist. We all know everyone makes mistakes, and that system is in place to make sure they get fixed. Going out to get support on something really does not make it get worked out any faster.
Alts are not something that is easy to handle, and we know that people could share IPs. There will never be a perfect system to handle that case.
I have really not seen through the few years that I dealt with actual alt bans that actually were because of educational/work places being used and it was a coincidence. I have seen it once. Over many, many, many bans.
Your appeal has been noticed and will be handled. We do not really need this being talked about here as not all information is presented to both sides and it just leaves open-ended discussions which could be very well wrong and paint the wrong images.
That being said, this is why appeals exist. We all know everyone makes mistakes, and that system is in place to make sure they get fixed. Going out to get support on something really does not make it get worked out any faster.
Alts are not something that is easy to handle, and we know that people could share IPs. There will never be a perfect system to handle that case.
I have really not seen through the few years that I dealt with actual alt bans that actually were because of educational/work places being used and it was a coincidence. I have seen it once. Over many, many, many bans.
Your appeal has been noticed and will be handled. We do not really need this being talked about here as not all information is presented to both sides and it just leaves open-ended discussions which could be very well wrong and paint the wrong images.