Mod Feedback [By Request] RotaryCraft Suggestions

[belgabor]

Ah. Ok. Would the type of Linux matter?

Let me cite from the OpenComputers MCF thread:

Spoiler

This mod uses a native library (included in the ZIP, you don't have to do anything). If you're running Minecraft on something exotic (read: Windows XP or older, PowerPC Mac or Solaris), the mod will enter a 'fallback mode' using LuaJ. In this mode computers will not persist, and memory use will not be limited. But as mentioned above, it is enough for the host to run on a supported platform.

Why a native library, when Java is such a beautifully cross-platform (as if) programming language? It's for the Lua state persistence. All Java implementations of Lua I'm aware of use Java threads to implement Lua's coroutines. Meaning there's no just way they could be persisted. But that's very much a core feature of this mod, so I saw no other way than going deep. It's just one little shared library, containing Lua plus Eris (the persistence library), and the JNLua wrapper. All of those are open source, too. Feel free to inspect the sources.

Just to make sure, this applies only to OC as it uses a native library, RotaryCraft doesn't and will work on all MineCraft OSes.

 

[1M Industries]

Let me cite from the OpenComputers MCF thread:

Spoiler

This mod uses a native library (included in the ZIP, you don't have to do anything). If you're running Minecraft on something exotic (read: Windows XP or older, PowerPC Mac or Solaris), the mod will enter a 'fallback mode' using LuaJ. In this mode computers will not persist, and memory use will not be limited. But as mentioned above, it is enough for the host to run on a supported platform.

Why a native library, when Java is such a beautifully cross-platform (as if) programming language? It's for the Lua state persistence. All Java implementations of Lua I'm aware of use Java threads to implement Lua's coroutines. Meaning there's no just way they could be persisted. But that's very much a core feature of this mod, so I saw no other way than going deep. It's just one little shared library, containing Lua plus Eris (the persistence library), and the JNLua wrapper. All of those are open source, too. Feel free to inspect the sources.

Just to make sure, this applies only to OC as it uses a native library, RotaryCraft doesn't and will work on all MineCraft OSes.

Ok. I was running Xp before and saw no problems, so I should be ok.

 

[keybounce]

You just need some special crystals that are not found on this planet. How hard can it be to collect that? .

This is not something for RotaryCraft.

Sorry, I was thinking of Mystcraft crystals. They're actually common enough in 10.13.1.

 

[CarbonBasedGhost]

I assume you mean copying the NBT data. That would probably just crash.

No not necessarily. When a device right clicks on a machine certain parts of the NBT Data could be sent into a method which can be carried on and transferred via clicking and sending data to that machine via a method.

This might also be time consuming depending on how you set up your block classes.

 

[keybounce]

(I thought I had already posted this, but could not find it.)

Idea for an early game power generator. Uses two farm animals; cows would produce the largest amount of power, but other animals (pigs, dogs) could be used instead. (Q: Could extras of the smaller animals work?). Always generates vertical shaft power. Animation: Animals walking around the shaft. Would probably require a 3x3 space, two leads, and some wood. Low rads, high torque (bigger animals = more torque; rotation speed would probably not change much from animal to animal), can be made from wood without falling apart rapidly.

 

[Reika]

No not necessarily. When a device right clicks on a machine certain parts of the NBT Data could be sent into a method which can be carried on and transferred via clicking and sending data to that machine via a method.

This might also be time consuming depending on how you set up your block classes.

I could make a "CopiableMachine" interface to get an NBT tag with certain fields on it, then just call readFromNBT from that tag. The problem is, is it useful enough to merit this?

Also, this would only be able to copy NBT-able data; more advanced data, like terraformer regions, could not be saved.

(I thought I had already posted this, but could not find it.)

Idea for an early game power generator. Uses two farm animals; cows would produce the largest amount of power, but other animals (pigs, dogs) could be used instead. (Q: Could extras of the smaller animals work?). Always generates vertical shaft power. Animation: Animals walking around the shaft. Would probably require a 3x3 space, two leads, and some wood. Low rads, high torque (bigger animals = more torque; rotation speed would probably not change much from animal to animal), can be made from wood without falling apart rapidly.

Suggested many, many times, including on the my main thread - that you read.

It is not technically possible to do, and it would not be useful ingame, as the generated power would be minimal.

 

[Sonylisation]

Im not sure if this is already implemented or discussed before, but is it possible to add a machine or gearbox that takes two or more inputs and creates one single output so that two weaker engines can combine their torque somewhat? And if you turn this gearbox around you'll have two outputs, capable of powering two fans using one strong engine or coil, maybe.


What about a Coil-powered rifle using flint, maybe only in conjunction with Mo' mobs or any other dangerous mobs-mods ?
I know rifles aren't very well-liked in minecraft due to the overpowered nature of them against normal mobs. So dont hate too much

 

[McJty]

Im not sure if this is already implemented or discussed before, but is it possible to add a machine or gearbox that takes two or more inputs and creates one single output so that two weaker engines can combine their torque somewhat? And if you turn this gearbox around you'll have two outputs, capable of powering two fans using one strong engine or coil, maybe.

That already exists. It is called a shaft junction I believe.

 

[belgabor]

That already exists. It is called a shaft junction I believe.

That's correct. I would love though if I/O wasn't restricted to the x/z plane.

 

[1M Industries]

What about a Coil-powered rifle using flint, maybe only in conjunction with Mo' mobs or any other dangerous mobs-mods ?
I know rifles aren't very well-liked in minecraft due to the overpowered nature of them against normal mobs. So dont hate too much

That also exists. It is called the gravel gun. Please check the tutorials before posting.

 

[Reika]

That's correct. I would love though if I/O wasn't restricted to the x/z plane.

Would you prefer clicking through 144 states?

 

[McJty]

Would you prefer clicking through 144 states?

Perhaps you could do it with some kind of UI like the bevel gears?

 

[Reika]

Perhaps you could do it with some kind of UI like the bevel gears?

There is also another issue - this is going to be a nightmare to work out how to select which model (of 4) to use and how to rotate it based on the settings.

 

[Pyure]

There is also another issue - this is going to be a nightmare to work out how to select which model (of 4) to use and how to rotate it based on the settings.

One option obviously is to rock the closed hub model idea, but I can absolutely understand that this is unappealing to you.

Unfortunately though it would be an example of how presentation takes precedence over gameplay experience.

 

[belgabor]

Perhaps you could do it with some kind of UI like the bevel gears?

Please, even if you don't go y. I already hate to click through the amount of states as of current =)

 

[Azzanine]

Im not sure if this is already implemented or discussed before, but is it possible to add a machine or gearbox that takes two or more inputs and creates one single output so that two weaker engines can combine their torque somewhat? And if you turn this gearbox around you'll have two outputs, capable of powering two fans using one strong engine or coil, maybe.


What about a Coil-powered rifle using flint, maybe only in conjunction with Mo' mobs or any other dangerous mobs-mods ?
I know rifles aren't very well-liked in minecraft due to the overpowered nature of them against normal mobs. So dont hate too much

You trolling? What next you are going to suggest a water wheel like engine that produces massive torque but isn't very fast and output is determined by how far the water flows...

 

[1M Industries]

You trolling? What next you are going to suggest a water wheel like engine that produces massive torque but isn't very fast and output is determined by how far the water flows...

He/she might be new to RotaryCraft, we all were once. Maybe they don't have NEI and haven't watched any tutorials yet.

 

[Azzanine]

He/she might be new to RotaryCraft, we all were once. Maybe they don't have NEI and haven't watched any tutorials yet.

Yes that is a possibility, but both of the suggestions where suspiciously close to things that are already in the mod. That and before suggesting things one should be sure that they have explored every facet of the service/ product they are making the suggestion for. What the user I commented was doing was suggesting that Coke add fizz to the drink... It boggles the mind how such a suggestion could be made seriously.

 

[1M Industries]

Yes that is a possibility, but both of the suggestions where suspiciously close to things that are already in the mod. That and before suggesting things one should be sure that they have explored every facet of the service/ product they are making the suggestion for. What the user I commented was doing was suggesting that Coke add fizz to the drink... It boggles the mind how such a suggestion could be made seriously.

I once thought that Industrialcraft should add some sort of flight item. Without seeing the jetpack. So, it can happen.

 

[Azzanine]

I once thought that Industrialcraft should add some sort of flight item. Without seeing the jetpack. So, it can happen.

Yeah but you said some sort of flight item not "Make a jetpack you have to fuel with compressed liquified coal fuel and you could even have one fueled by EU".
Unless gravel guns are more of a no brainer idea then I first realized. It wasn't just the gravel gun it was the suggestion of the "shaft junction" too. Both the suggestions are things already in the game.
Maybe I'm wrong but it looked sus.