Blood N Bones [Hardcore Survival]

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ProfessorMudkip

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Did you empty that by hand? Ermagerd...

Yeah, I'll reinstate the compressed sawdust in 1.0.5. Hopefully have the loot tables done too. (maybe)
How would you feel about making gelid cryotheum the primary coolant for engines? You could nerf water in the TE fuel config so they can start out with it but eventually need to transition into the cryotheum. Balance it to go water -> ice -> cryotheum. That way coolant could be tiered like you have tiered machines with Metallurgy. Since, even with finite water, there is no reason to ever use better coolant because water is so efficient and plentiful.
 

Eyamaz

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Code:
coolants {
  I:cryotheum=4000000
  I:ice=2000000
  I:water=400000
}

its already set that way. I guess I could drop water down to 100000 maybe
 

ProfessorMudkip

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Code:
coolants {
  I:cryotheum=4000000
  I:ice=2000000
  I:water=400000
}

its already set that way. I guess I could drop water down to 100000 maybe
Yeah, I know it already has it tiered like that. But, with the default values there is no reason to use the other coolants, as I said in my previous post. I meant to balance it around the new value you use for the water.
 
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Mikhaila666

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"Your bed has been stolen" ?

Meaning a mob was to close or something? I assume this is a similar effect to if your bed was destroyed?
 

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Code:
coolants {
  I:cryotheum=4000000
  I:ice=2000000
  I:water=400000
}

its already set that way. I guess I could drop water down to 100000 maybe
Also, as far as I know, the ice it is referring to is Forestry's crushed ice, which is not in your modpack. Would you be able to add your own liquid ice? Keep in mind that the Glacial Precipitator can make ice blocks and snowballs very cheaply, so you'd have to find a way to balance that if you use those.
 

Eyamaz

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Also, as far as I know, the ice it is referring to is Forestry's crushed ice, which is not in your modpack. Would you be able to add your own liquid ice? Keep in mind that the Glacial Precipitator can make ice blocks and snowballs very cheaply, so you'd have to find a way to balance that if you use those.

nope, that should be the regular ice. the other would be nitrogen iirc
 

geneweaver

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anyone else having problems with new stock recipe not working. it shows up in nei and when i make the recipe it puts the stock on the left but i cant take it. hrmmm?

thanks
 

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anyone else having problems with new stock recipe not working. it shows up in nei and when i make the recipe it puts the stock on the left but i cant take it. hrmmm?

thanks

It's working fine for me. Freshwater + pot + food item right?
 

Mikhaila666

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I think the original recipe was mixing bowl + pot + food item.
Currently in NEI i'm seeing mixing bowl + pot + food item + freshwater, and while it shows two stock as the end result, I can't pull it out of the crafting table.
Also had the same problem with cranberry juice, but other juices seem fine.
 

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I really want to play this mod, it seems like so much fun. I just cannot get it to work correctly, every time I start a new world and try to play I get so much lag and eventually my game just becomes a slideshow and I can't play. Is there someway to fix this?
 

Eyamaz

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anyone else having problems with new stock recipe not working. it shows up in nei and when i make the recipe it puts the stock on the left but i cant take it. hrmmm?

thanks
I think the original recipe was mixing bowl + pot + food item.
Currently in NEI i'm seeing mixing bowl + pot + food item + freshwater, and while it shows two stock as the end result, I can't pull it out of the crafting table.
Also had the same problem with cranberry juice, but other juices seem fine.

ok, I can pull them out just fine. is this SSP or SMP?

I really want to play this mod, it seems like so much fun. I just cannot get it to work correctly, every time I start a new world and try to play I get so much lag and eventually my game just becomes a slideshow and I can't play. Is there someway to fix this?

you can start by trying the JVM arguments in the OP. though if you have issues with a pack like Horizons or Magic Farm 2, you are NOT going to be able to play this pack. sorry.
 

ProfessorMudkip

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Liquid.... ice?
Yes, just like how Steam is treated as a fluid.

Is there some problem/bug with just using water/ice that is already available?
Not a technical problem, just that it's far too easy with the default cooling value of water. As I explained in my previous post, you are capable of producing 960 million RF with a small lake of water, which does not seem to be consistent with the intent of this modpack. For reference, an equal quantity of lava can only produce 282 million RF. Of course, you need a primary fuel, but getting one is very easy. Some people complain that lava is too easy, yet water is 3.5x more efficient.

Fluid ice does not seem to exist, explained below.

Code:
coolants {
  I:cryotheum=4000000
  I:ice=2000000
  I:water=400000
}
nope, that should be the regular ice. the other would be nitrogen iirc
What do you mean by "regular ice"? The ice block (79) does not work for any dynamo. Also, which nitrogen works as coolant?

The coolants in this list are referring to fluid coolants; cryotheum and water are fluids. In B&B, only water and cryotheum exists in the tooltips for the Compression Dynamo's coolants. Ice does not exist in B&B fluid registry, while it does in a package with Forestry, like Direwolf20. Crushed Ice is from Forestry, made by Squeezing a snowball and 4 Ice Shards; the shards are produced by fairly high-end bees. If you put the Crushed Ice in the Compression Dynamo, it lasts as long as it indicates it will in the config. It obviously does not work in the Steam Dynamo because its intent is to make steam, not to cool the engine. Solid ice does not work in any dynamo. So, unless I am overlooking something, it is definitely referring to Crushed Ice.

Of course, it's your decision if you want to change coolant for everyone. I already did in my game, but I thought you'd appreciate it's intent. :)
 
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Mikhaila666

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I think the want for changes is coolant is what I'd refer to as a "first world problem". Water and Lava are only going to be easy to get once you have a an Enerthermic Pump. And with tech high enough to make liquid cryotheum, what is it that you are think people will have too much power for? Quarry? ME system? At that point, it's not going to cause someone a lot of pain to get more coolant for a system.

If we were limited to just the dynamos, I'd agree more, as it would be putting another barrier in the way. But we also have the gnerators in this pack, which don't even need cooling.
 

ProfessorMudkip

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Water and Lava are only going to be easy to get once you have a an Enerthermic Pump. And with tech high enough to make liquid cryotheum, what is it that you are think people will have too much power for? Quarry? ME system? At that point, it's not going to cause someone a lot of pain to get more coolant for a system
That is because the Magma Crucible is moved to late-game. Rather than making resources valuable, it prolongs the time required to acquire it while not addressing the initial problem. For example, the Steam Dynamo recipe changed to require a bit more redstone, iron, tin and copper. You also have to manually fill it with water because the Aqueous is end-game and the Pump is late-game. So, you just have to live near water and fill the engine whenever it runs out. This does not address the issue of the fuels being very easy/abundant nor the high amount of energy obtained from it.

If we were limited to just the dynamos, I'd agree more, as it would be putting another barrier in the way. But we also have the gnerators in this pack, which don't even need cooling.
Yes, I'm not very fond of them. Though, as it stands, you don't even need to use this or TE, because the Tinker smelter is so cheap and efficient. In fact, the smelter is free with enough lava to process your first several stacks of ingots if you find a village.